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    Wow...This is small...

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Thomas, Jun 24, 2008.

  1. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    Just nlited my XP disk.
    Its 158MBs, and the first boot is about 5-10 seconds long.
    Took 20 minutes to install.
     
  2. ATG

    ATG 2x4 Super Moderator

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    What did you left on the CD? :D Very nice though :)
     
  3. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    Uhh, I left Ethernet and Wlan support :D
    Its basically a nicer version of Win2k lol.
     
  4. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    LOL your pagefile is like 10x bigger than the OS... :laugh:
     
  5. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    Actually, right now with about 5 programs installed, And its not even taking up a GB.
    The pagefile usage is about 160MBs :)
     
  6. Arki

    Arki Super Moderator

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    Thomas, did you burn the ISO onto CD-R?

    I'm actually thinking of doing the same thing for fun. (never used nLite before, though)

    Did you follow a guide? If so, a link please?
     
  7. Gregory

    Gregory disassemble?

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    I used nLite and got a similar size disc by cutting out all the services and extra junk I didn't need a few months ago... The speed of the computer actually seemed to increase, as there were only 8 services running after bootup. However within a week I found that the system was unstable... I guess I cut out too many :) .
     
  8. Carrot Muncher

    Carrot Muncher Notebook Evangelist

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    Wow that is small, nice. :cool:
     
  9. jisaac

    jisaac Notebook Deity

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    i've used both nlite and vlite. I used nlite to create the best possible gaming os for my pc, and cut the original xp image to about 190mb, which ran completely stable. Using vlite, I was able to cut the vista 2.5gb dvd, down to about 1gb. A guide is not really necessary, because it is very easy. However if you need help just pm, me or one of the others that know what they're talking about :)

    I prefer to integrate programs direct into the install using a program called nlite addon maker, however, there are many programs already suitable to be integrated from http://www.winaddons.com/nlite-addons
    I also disable SFC using nlite, which enabled me to use minlogon, which halves your boot time. :p
     
  10. Wirelessman

    Wirelessman Monkeymod

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    Is nliting the same than slipstreaming?
     
  11. Thomas

    Thomas McLovin

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    Nope, didnt follow a guide, it was fairly simple and user friendly, vlite and nlite.
    I'm guessing you did :D
    Ya, its a lifesaver :)

    Right now Im about to mod an old Win2k disc.. :)
     
  12. jisaac

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    you mean a service pack? slipstreaming is part of the nlite process, its easy to integrate sp3 into the xp install, and sp1 into the vista install.
     
  13. Carrot Muncher

    Carrot Muncher Notebook Evangelist

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    Whats the difference with downloading the apps from that site compared to just normally downloading them? :confused:
     
  14. Wirelessman

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    So, nlite is the actual application and slipstreaming is the process to attach an SP to an OS?
     
  15. jisaac

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    exactly :)
     
  16. Wirelessman

    Wirelessman Monkeymod

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    What else can you do with nlite?
     
  17. Gregory

    Gregory disassemble?

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    SFC is a nice part of XP that protects you from many malicious viruses... Personally I'd rather keep the longer bootup time for that feature.

    When you download the programs from that site they usually are already prepared for nLite to use them. For example the .exe is extracted and the necessary files are available for nLite. So it cuts out the time of you extracting it. Also they are usually tweaked and have extra stuff cut out of them to save space (help files or images meant only for the install process).

    They are adding the 'take over over the world' feature in the next version. It is pretty nifty. Just burn your XP cd and within 5 minutes or so you are ultimate ruler of the galaxy. Can't wait to try it ;).

    No really it is good for adding service packs, windows updates, programs, drivers and cutting out features that you don't use. Personally I prefer making a recovery image rather than adding programs into the install CD, because it only takes 5 minutes to recover from my recovery partition, but 40 minutes from the install CD.
     
  18. jisaac

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    Yes the programs you dowload from that site are in cab format, you cannot integrate msi/exe files into the install. The cab file contains the original
    install file, + a text file, that allows the install file to be read during the install process. The removal of help files etc... saves space, but does not improve performance in any way. You can't really call the programs 'tweaked'.

    An antivirus/ good firewall is good enough for me :)

    Nlite can do the following things:

    Integrate service packs
    Integrate hotfixes/updates
    Integrate drivers into the install
    Integrate any programs you want into the install
    Remove Components (such as games/languages/ unnecessary programs such as wordpad)
    Remove or change the configuration of startup services.
    Change user profiles etc.. create new account/passwords that you can integrate into the install.
    Create unattended installs ie. no configuration required.
    Other miscellaneous tweaks

    I think thats about it !
    Hope this helped!
     
  19. Wirelessman

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    Thank you, that's a very complete list. I guess I will learn more when I will need it.

    +rep
     
  20. deathstick

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    thats pretty nice
     
  21. Carrot Muncher

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    Thanks for the replies Gregory_Is_Cheap and jisaac :)
     
  22. Arki

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    I assume you didn't install SP3?
     
  23. jisaac

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    I got xp with sp3 down to 190mb, so i don't see why not.
     
  24. Thomas

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    No SP3, I find it quite useless.
    Besides, can't get much faster then this :)
     
  25. Arki

    Arki Super Moderator

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    So, you have no hotfixes?

    jisaac,

    I'm downloading SP3 right now and it says it's about 316MB in size. I suppose nlite extracts only the English version from it?
     
  26. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    What you suppose to do is, slipstream SP3 first, then you remove stuff from it. It shouldn't be that much of a difference in size than a XP SP2 disc, cause SP3 mostly replaces files from the previous versions.
     
  27. Gregory

    Gregory disassemble?

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    The only real benefit of SP3 I have found is that is cuts down on the massive amount of hotfixes after a clean install. I'm pretty sure the combination of SP3 & cutting out tons of services was what caused my instability, as the same services cut out was perfectly stable with SP2... Those there are the pros and cons I found slipstreaming SP3. I wonder if running SP3 post install would cause the same instability for me... I'll need to test it out and see :).
     
  28. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    Hey Greg, just wondering, did you slipstream SP3 into a SP2 XP or a SP0 XP? Cause apparently it does make a difference. The XP SP3 I'm using now was slipstreamed from a SP0 XP and it is very stable for me.

    :)
     
  29. Gregory

    Gregory disassemble?

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    It was from an SP2 disc (an original SP2 disc). As far as I know, the issues with going SP2 to SP3 only exists if you are using a disc that had SP2 slipstream previously through nLite. I think the instability issues might have happened after installing the .NET Framework 2. I probably just cut out an important service for .NET that nLite didn't warn me about :) .

    Ultimately I'm pretty sure it was something I did wrong, because nLite works great usually :).
     
  30. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    .NET Framework 2 has a SP1 version, maybe this update will solve your issue?

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...77-e02c-4ad3-aacf-a7633f706ba5&DisplayLang=en

    :)
     
  31. Arki

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    Well, nLite asks that you allow it to remove SP2 (or any other SP) before installing SP3. So, isn't that basically SP3 into an SP0?
     
  32. Gregory

    Gregory disassemble?

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    Hmm maybe... I didn't install that.. I wiped out that install a while ago, so I'll need to reinstall with this and see how in works out!

    Thanks for the link stewie!

    I don't remember it asking me that... Is that for discs that came with SP2 straight from Microsoft as well?
     
  33. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    Interesting, didn't know it has the option, I didn't use nLite to do the slipstream, I just used the M$ command. But yeah, in that case of nLite, I guess it would be the same as slipstreaming into SP0.

    :)
     
  34. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    That's a good point, I think you will only see the option from a SP2 that was slipstreamed before? Anyway, I'm not sure.
     
  35. Arki

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    I would assume it's for any discs that contain SP1 or SP2. It says that it "detects hotfixes already (SP2)" and recommends you remove them because SP3 supersedes it.

    I'm kind of confused since Microsoft recommends that at the least SP1 should be installed prior to installing SP3.
     
  36. SL2

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    I think you need SP1 or SP2 when installing SP3, but not when slipsteaming SP3.