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    XP why still use it after the 22nd?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by DRFP, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Well a few reasons I could see why some wouldn't switch is because:
    #1 they're really not tech savy(as in, they use computers maybe once a week if not less) and as long as the OS does what they want, they see no need to upgrade
    #2 they don't want to(or can't) spend money on an upgrade(which can relate to #1)
    #3 They're getting a new computer within less than a year with Windows 7 likely pre-installed on it so they won't upgrade their "old" computter
     
  2. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    I've made the switch to Win 7 as it's what Vista should have been from the start. :cool:
     
  3. Arla

    Arla Notebook Deity

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    My new notebook gets Win 7 since it's got a free upgrade to it, my old notebook stays with XP (well, and Ubuntu) because I am not going to spend money to buy Win 7.

    It's an OS for crying out loud, yes, Windows 7 seems to be pretty good, but lets face it, it doesn't DO anything that much more than Windows XP ever did, it lets you run other programs, as long as you don't need something specific that Windows 7 does for running programs (which most, if not all average users won't) why bother upgrading.
     
  4. HTWingNut

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    Windows 7 FTW!

    I loved XP, but there's no reason to stick with XP now.
     
  5. DRFP

    DRFP Notebook Evangelist

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    Just wanted to say if I was harsh sorry, but I love to debate and some see that as harsh.

    I had beta tested Win 7 since April this year after using vista for 9 months ( I used XP after beta testing Longhorn and feeling that Vista was a disaster I was right)
    I found Windows 7 to be
    Responsive
    use less computer resources
    Better driver compatibility
    Handles older programs well ( for the most part)
    Fun ( no blue screens)

    So unlike before I actually wanted to get the word to those scared to upgrade from XP that its worth it and ok to upgrade!

    Go for it!

    If you want to debate me go for it ( just do not get upset and have facts to back it up!)
     
  6. Apollo13

    Apollo13 100% 16:10 Screens

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    Having run XP x64... that's not a normal Windows folder size. I didn't record exact statistics for my XP x64 installation size, but it was nowhere near that big. At that size I'd be fairly concerned that something was going on to eat up that much space that definitely shouldn't be going on.
     
  7. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Windows 7 is most definitely a worthy upgrade over Windows XP and XP users in general should feel satisfied about it.

    However, I doubt the 22nd(which is alreayd past) will be the "death" of Windows XP. The widespread death perhaps, but Windows XP will exist just as Windows 8 or 95 can still be found in remote places hat aren't arsed to upgrade to the latest OS for either financial or other reasons.
     
  8. HTWingNut

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    The problem is that for avid XP users, Windows 7 still has a majority of Vista's features and interfaces, so an XP user would still have a significant learning curve. From a usability, stability, and performance standpoint, it's definitely the way to go. It took me a bit to get used to it, but Windows 7 seemed more intuitive somehow than when I used Vista.
     
  9. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    It's pretty much always been that size.
    It certainly hasn't changed much in the last 6-12 months.


    But how can it be better from from a usability or stability viewpoint than my existing OS which does everything I want it to and has, literally, never crashed on me since it was installed.
     
  10. ettornio

    ettornio Notebook Deity

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    The poll should have included an option for making the jump in 6 months, because that's what I'm doing. Actually what I'm really doing is waiting for SSD prices to come down, buy one, and use it as the OS drive for Windows 7 because I hear Win7 absolutely adores Solid State Drives.
     
  11. envy

    envy Notebook Consultant

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    Since I been at my college, I noticed that they are still on XP.. The only good thing they did was use Office 2007
     
  12. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Well look at it this way: I can use a cheap car to get to places. I can argue that it's never let me down and that it does all I want(i.e. get me to places). Does that disclude the possible fact that there exist better overall cars out there in the market? No it doesn't.

    In the same way, while the current OS you use might be good for your needs, that doesn't really disclude the fact that another OS might be better. I mean, there are lots of things happening "under the hood" which you are unaware about. Just as cars have motor efficiency and sometimes specific engine mechanisms, OSes can have protocols, addresses, registers or other things which vary from OS to OS and these things can be made to be "better" or more efficient; it's just that most people wouldn't notice the difference.

    I mean, one could argue the same about the shift from 32bit to 64bit which rarely makes a difference to most users(most common reason its "4Gb+ of RAM), yet we at NBR recommend it most of the time because under the hood it provides advantages in architecture which are unseen.
     
  13. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    But then there's 'better' and there's 'better suits my needs' - the two are not necessarily the same.
    You wouldn't buy a Ferrari over, say, a VW Golf if all the you do is a bit of driving around town but no-one would try and argue that the Golf was the superior car.


    Anyway, your analogy is flawed.
    You stated Win7 is superior for stuff like stability, that cannot be the case if my existing OS has been absolutely perfect - you can't improve on 100%. Or, to stick with the cars; a Ferrari may be a superior piece of engineering to a Golf but that doesn't necessarily mean it's any more reliable.
     
  14. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Well stability includes the possibility of failing. Your OS is only "perfect" so long as it hasn't failed you yet. While whatever you're using now hasn't failed you yet, it doesn't mean it might not in the future. Stability issues can easily be a hit and miss issue as much as it can be user interference or even other things. Different OSes use different architectures and protocols sometimes which can or cannot be prone to stability issues. Like I said, it can fall into the "your mileage may vary" category so saying your OS is "perfect" is a flawed statement in itself(since arguably we could debate that perfection is but a relative illusion)
     
  15. Step666

    Step666 Professional chubby Chris Pratt impersonator

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    Well, of course, YMMV.
    I just think that whilst Win7 is certainly extremely promising and looks to have righted a lot of the wrongs of Vista, it cannot be all things to all people and that a lot of individuals will still find XP to be perfectly suitable.


    Also, I would like to point out that I only said that XP has been perfect for me, not that it is perfect.
    The two are very different statements.
     
  16. minghi

    minghi Notebook Guru

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    win 7 = reliability of xp + looks of vista, in other words its a hot blonde model with perfectly tanned skin
     
  17. booboo12

    booboo12 Notebook Prophet

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    Unfortunately for Microsoft, the long delay in getting Vista out the door, poor early marketing from MS/excellent marketing from Apple, the early teething issues due to 3rd parties not getting drivers out the door on time due to not believing MS's release date, word of mouth from upset former (and now back on it) XP users, and the explosion of cloud based services has put a big dent in the whole, "gotta upgrade" mentality many had before.

    Let's face it, for many people XP's like that old faithful dog that won't die. (when my coworkers are saying how they bought netbooks as primary machines in 2008 JUST so they could use their beloved XP..something is wrong...) Loyal, and trained "just so", it's become the "new" Windows 2000 (many prominent tech figures STILL to this day swear that Win2K was the best, most solid Windows release period) to a lot of people. With the explosion of web apps, the risk that actual "on the hard disk" software won't run is almost moot-there's almost always a great web app to take up the slack.

    The point is: Have we reached the point where the OS almost doesn't matter anymore? I think we are getting there, and that the real innovation is going to come in the browser where many of us spend a lot of our time. XP vs. Vista vs. OSX vs. Linux...who will care soon? Not many people I think, when all machines can access the same websites/web apps.

    Now maybe when MS forces obsolescence on XP by cutting off security updates something will change, but that's a long way off, esp. since people are still able to buy machines with it preloaded. :)
     
  18. MisterQ

    MisterQ Notebook Consultant

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    At home, we only have two computers on XP, one is my dad's laptop, owned by the company, and an old one with XP, and its dual-booted with a non-RTM Windows 7. That comp is 4 years old and getting to be really slow (Celeron Northwood 2.3GHz).

    One thing thats sad is that the Basic theme of 7 is a piece of s-. Vista's basic themes are tolerable, Win7 basic themes are too much.
     
  19. glalo042

    glalo042 Notebook Guru

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    I have switched to Win 7 and will never go back to XP. In saying that though I did get a free copy of Win 7 Professional. I wouldn't buy a new OS for a system if it already has one that works fine though. But like all things everyone will eventually have to let XP go and move onto newer OS's i.e Win 7
     
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