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    adjust sys restore size/make a drive inaccessible

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by jetuaime81, Mar 10, 2008.

  1. jetuaime81

    jetuaime81 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, i just got a new hp dv2750....i wanted to adjust the system restore size but when i type those commands (vssadmin list shadows etc), it says 'you do not have privileges, please login with ...' even though i am the administrator....there is only 1 user...

    also is there any way to make a partition inaccessible to other users in vista, or even if sumone login in XP (dual boot system)....

    Thanx in advance
     
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    SpeedyMods Notebook Deity

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    Run command promt as administrator.
     
  3. jetuaime81

    jetuaime81 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi...but i am already a user with administrator rights...neways, wats the pssword for user name ADMINISTRATOR in hp
     
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    Right-click on "Command Prompt" in the start menu, and choose "Run as administrator".

    It's a little confusing, but even admin users run in a low-privilege mode, and need to escalate (using "Run as administrator") when doing admin stuff.
     
  5. nobscot6

    nobscot6 Wise One

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    open my computer, right click on the drive........

    here-->

    a simple excellent guide->

    Click Here
     
  6. pixelot

    pixelot Notebook Acolyte

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    Hmmm. I don't know what I did, but I have everything set to run as Administrator....
     
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    nobscot6 Wise One

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    you may be the only user ........
     
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    pixelot Notebook Acolyte

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    I mean, I never get these Administrative prompts, and when I open the Run dialog, it says underneath it that 'This task will be created with administrative privileges.' When I resize sys restore size, I don't have to switch to an elevated cmd prompt or all that jazz. :p
     
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    for some reason its a little diffrent on my computer with vista basic... cant get to those settings to adjust disk space usage for my system restore
     
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    LOL, that's because that guide is for XP, not Vista.
     
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    Yeah, either you have UAC turned off, or, in Vista Biz & Ult. there's a bunch of settings you can tweak... you can set it to escalate automatically without prompting:
    Control Panel > System & Maint. > Admin Tools > Comp. Mgmt. > Local Policy > Security Options > User Account Control: Behavior of the elevation prompt...
     
  12. jetuaime81

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    Thanx guys....that right click n run as admin worked....

    what bout the other question....protecting a partition??...does vista have a utility to protect a partition from being accessed by another user...even if sum1 logs onto xp in a dual bootsystem
     
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    hey guys 1 more thing....in task manager performance tab, my total memory is 2045, cached is 1516, free is 0 n the memory figure shows around 720mb.....how come....i have a dv2750 c2d t7500, 160gb hdd, 2gb ram, nvidia 8400gs 128mb...ne idea??
     
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    how do i do it on vista?
     
  15. nobscot6

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    I did not write the following guide:

    Adjusting the amount of disk space System Restore uses to hold restore points

    The slider that Windows XP uses to adjust the amount of disk space used to store System Restores restore point is no longer available in Windows Vista. I suspect the reasons for this is that changing the amount of disk space effects more then just restore points.

    System restore in Vista utilizes the Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS) which manages restore points or shadow copies. A shadow copy is essentially a previous version of a file or folder at a specific point. Restore points are a special type of shadow copy because they store specific information needed during a system repair with System Restore. Shadow Copies are also created by Previous Versions, Windows Backup, and CompletePC Backup. CompletePC Backup is only available in Windows Vista Business, Ultimate, and Enterprise editions.

    The shadow copy storage area is where all types shadow copies are stored on each volume where VSC (Volume Shadow Copy) is turned on.

    The determination of shadow storage size is made when the first shadow copy is created (typically when System Restore is enabled and creates a restore point during Setup) and is set to the minimum of 30% of free space or 15% of the volume. When System Restore is turned on right after Windows Vista is installed, the shadow copy storage area is most likely to be 15% of volume. In cases where System Restore is turned on much later, the 30% of free space formula might kick in, thus limiting the number of shadow copies you’ll have on your system. Also, these percentages don’t increase or decrease dynamically when more (or less) free space is available or after you adjust the size of the volume.


    So you can see that adjusting the shadow copy storage area where restore points are stored has an impact on all types of Shadow Copies. If disk space is not an issue then leave well enough alone. Performance should not be effected by changing the storage space either.

    If the decision is made to resize, the shadow copy storage area, use the “vssadmin” command-line tool from the command prompt.



    From within an administrator account open the command prompt
    . To do so go to Start – All Programs – Accessories and click on the Command Prompt. Right click n Command Prompt and select Run as administrator.



    To view lists existing volume shadow copies type or paste the following command then press enter:

    vssadmin list shadows


    Displays all shadow copy storage associations on the system and their size:

    vssadmin list shadowstorage

    The “vssadmin resize shadowstorage” command can be used to resize the storage area.


    Here’s a example of the command used to resize the shadow storage area on the C:\ partition to a maximum size of 6 GB’s.


    vssadmin resize shadowstorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=6GB



    Note: As soon as you disable/enable SR, the original values will be back.
     
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    Guys...i entered vssadmin list shadowstorage which showed my max set was 20 gb for shadows...

    i set that max space to 8GB but still my c: drive occupies 30GB....just vista no other softwares installed...

    did i miss something

    "edited" Also I am not allowed to shrink beyond 69030 even though i hav 110 gb free in c: .

    i need 35 GB C:
    20 GB D:
    Rest E:

    The recovery partition should stay the same. ne1?
     

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    Yeah, I have UAC nixed and nulled. :p
     
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    deathstick Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think it automatically defrags your drive. In other words, there may be files right at that spot that is blocking it from shrinking further.

    As for your 0 free ram, you still have that ram to use for programs, it's just that vista pre-loads programs you use frequently into ram (to help them load faster) and calls it cached ram. If you were to suddenly open a program not preloaded, it would purge some of the files in the cached ram to make room for it.
     
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    Here's another thought-- why not to shrink your system restore.......

    excellent article!!-->

    A Smarter Way To Manage System Restore Space

    and here's a portion of it.....

    Is there another way to reclaim that space?

    Yes, indeed. The Disk Cleanup Manager can safely eliminate all but the most recent System Restore point. Click Start, type clean in the search box, and click Disk Cleanup from the search results list. Choose the Files from All Users on This Computer option and click OK. (You'll need to approve a UAC prompt to continue.) Choose a drive letter, and wait while Disk Cleanup performs some calculations. On the More Options tab, you'll find a button that allows you to completely clear out all but the most recent restore point from the space used by restore points and shadow copies.
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    I personally would just TURN OFF UAC permenently. I don't know why anyone would want this feature On in their personal computer

    Hope this helps someone

    ann
     
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    Interesting... I like Ed Bott's blog in general... it's good stuff.

    That's nice.

    Because some of us prefer not to let any piece of code that gets executed on our systems (via a web browser exploit, for example, or accidental execution) automatically have full privileges to take over the whole system and/or install spyware, keyloggers, or rootkits.