alpha/beta browser war (not really)

update Opera 9.5 xxxxxxxx:
. looking like 9.5 development is being pushed back to the burner, reason is
. 9.26 is in testing phase for roll out, to fix STABILITY issues in many instances

update Minefield build 2008021504:
. well, what can i say but
. GIVE ME MY THEMES and EXTENSIONS

cheers ...

 

and guess what? part of the 9.26 was due to a security issue, and this time Opera is BLAMING Mozilla for holding back the information

man, talking about "quadruble talk" - i always thought (or made to believe) that Opera was the most secure browser and always ahead of the pack. Personally, i m losing faith with Opera, 1st blaming microsoft and "lousy" web developers for its acceptance, and now blaming Mozilla for its lack of security ------ yikes!

cheers ....

 

That seems like something stupid to say. That another browser is the cause of your incompetence. If i was them i'd shut my mouth and fix the program.

 

So, anyone tried Flock 1.1 Beta?

 

. flock just came out 1.0.9 with security patch in conjunction with FF2.0.0.12
. 1.1 beta might have some pretty works to finish
. want to give us some inputs based in ur personal experiences?

cheers ...

 

Overall it's stable. I love the new mail integration. All my addons still work & like always, Flock is lighter & faster the Firefox 2 & on par with Firefox 3 if not faster. Not many interface features have changed except for better youtube integration & things like that. There are a few themes that have come out recently so the theme department may start to pick up.

 

i was looking into FLock a while back (last year) but after a brainstorm 2 things kept me back:
. Integration with del.icio.us for bookmarks, sometimes dragging a bookmark to your toolbar will send a bookmark to the mentioned site (a no no for my private browing experience). It might be ok for others since this is supposed to be a social browser
. "the coop" - Mozilla is building social netwoking into firefox, so kinda might be trumping Flock in the main area

cheers ...

 

After what you said i'd like to try it out in vista to see if it's faster than FF3 but it's not available for vista.

 

flock? 1.0.9 is available for vista
http://www.filehippo.com/download_flock/tech/

cheers ...

 

Thanks, i'll do some more info rummaging before i try it out.

 

I like how now Firefox 3 opens the last page you were viewing even if you only had one tab open.

 

After what? What are you talking about?

 

I close the browser with no tabs open, then reopen it and I see the last page I was viewing instead of my homepage (before you if you closed FF with no tabs, it took you to your homepage). Its now an option along with showing your homepage or a blank page.

 

Doesn't happen with me, and i wouldn't want it to. What if i were viewing something i didn't want other people to see and they started up Firefox to see that page?

 

Guess Tweakforce will never be fixed Not only TF, but some other sites are also using too much cpu

 

It is. I recommend the 1.1 Beta.

You can do that with FF2, it's built in.

 

Whenever i click the "Scan now" button in this site it crashes Firefox. Does so for a few of my buddies too. It works fine in IE7 though.

 

Yahoo mail works again (in Minefield)!! So happy, now no more need to open IE!

 

Just notice the back and forward buttons are now round and blue, not green and hard edged anymore.

 

Now i think they should integrate the reload/stop buttons into one. Followed by putting the home button back as an icon instead of a "bookmark".

 

update "to be" IE 8 Beta:
. preparing my environment for installing the new "beast" (nah, beauty does hide behind the beasty mask, more than often)
. statement of mission: "fully" complying to web standards (hearing this Opera?) WITHOUT breaking old web sites (hearing this again Opera? - sure they do, their derriere has been burning with 9.5 developments and 9.2x patches to lead to this)
. challenges to web developers: actually this is a smart move of microsoft to keep the base. IE 8 will be standard and at the same time not breaking old sites, this is to satisfy the demands and challenges of modern/standard web developers while giving the "old" web developers time to migrate to the standard. Clever move!
. wheee, a new toy to play with since Minefield has pretty much no more "wow" surprises (for me anyway)

cheers ...

 

If you get your hands on it, be sure to provide many screenshots and details.

 

Agreed. I'd like to see how it turns out.

 

will do.

Now i will only test it stock, like with Minefield, Opera 9.5x and Safari Beta. No addons, rumor is that IE7Pro is already having issue with the beta version. Must be just from competitors . I probably will just take a quick test with this addon to confirm or not comfirm the rumor and then remove it.

Just hope that it is simple to UN.install afterward and not losing the current IE7 installation.

cheers ...

 

current fastest (alpha/beta) browser:
. this was on my comp
. Minefield (2008022806) = 8246.0 ms
. Opera 9.5 (9807) = 12642.2 ms
. Safari 3.0.4 = 21017.3 ms

more professional reference:
http://cybernetnews.com/2008/02/25/firefox-3-performance-gets-a-boost/

the article mentioned a GPO (Profile-Guide Optimization) build that could have make Minefield much faster than the normal nightly build

well, unless something changes in the alpha/beta arena, currently FF is leading the pack in SPEED. Can't wait to start testing IE8 Beta

cheers ...

 

New Opera build:

Download here

 

update Minefield 2008022906:
. sunjavaScript Benchmark: 8238.2ms (with 6 tabs opened)
.

update Opera 9.5 snapshot 9815:
. one step forward, 20 steps back - a new cha-cha-cha
. they need new development team, a team that pays more attention to making a better product and not smart-mouthing with testers

cheers ...

 

Actually, i just remembered that i can just move it to the navigation toolbar if i want to. But i got too attached to having it as a bookmark. Also, for those of you who don't know what Firefox 3 looks like. Here is a screenshot.

 

They changed the buttons again in Minefield, home button too.

 

It's all apart of the OS integration thing they're doing. I'll get to see it in beta 4 i believe.

 

update Minefield 3.0b5pre:
. this is NOT a can-be-tweaked build/version
. meaning NO extension, NO add-on
. nightly tester tool will not work (security blocked)

other than that: simply cool, fast, pretty

cheers ...

 

work around of the nightly tester tool installation:
. install it via FF2
. just making sure that the latest version was present

cheers ...

 

3.0 beta 5pre? Official beta 4 isn't even out yet...

 

well, they r looking way ahead
and yes, it is 3.0b5pre

cheers ...

 

Before you leave, do you think you could post some screenshots? Did they improve the OS integration even more?