another program besides itunes?

are there any programs I can use to update my ipod insted of itunes? It would also be nice if it could read itunes library files so i dont have to rebuild my whole library/playlist!

Thanks

 

hmm perhaps foobar + ipod plugin

 

WinAmp works just fine.
I've been using it since 2002 for various iPods.

 

Yeah, I use winamp.

 

will winamp be able to use an itunes library file?

 

Confirm Winamp works.

 

also Media Monkey..

iTunes interface but lot faster

 

Foobar2000

 

Ooh. Foobar works? Sweeeet. Does it also rip CDs? That would be wicked! I'll have to check. If so, I could fogret about iTunes altogether!

 

I'm pretty sure it does, but i would have recommended SongBird. It has iPod support along with a library importer.

 

Well, I'm not super into my iPod. I just stick some music on it, and if it plays, good. If it plays in order, even better.

 

Then you might want to try out SongBird.

 

winamp for the win
p.s. i never understood people who used itunes

 

Using a browser engine for an application was a horrible idea in the first place.

Songbird is buggy, annoying, slow, rip-off of itunes and has memory leak problems albeit some decent features.

Then again if your a firefox enthusiast such as Calvin here (no offence, just i've noticed that you seem to be the one here coming up with firefox news) then you'll see right past the problems, but if your a normal user you may wish to see past the problems but really cant.

To top it off they force you to install quicktime... such a ****slap

 

I'm not really a fan of SongBird for some of the reasons you mentioned, but for what some people want to do, they can look past its problems. Which is why i brought it up.

 

I second Mediamonkey. It's a million times better than iTunes and Winamp. Easier to use, more customizable, better looking. The only down side is that it doesn't have video support, but for everything else works wonderfully. Give it a try.

 

ya i third mediamonkey...

 

Hi.

here you go!!!!

10 Alternatives to iTunes for managing your iPod

http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/08/10-alternatives-to-itunes-for-managing-your-ipod/

regards

John.

 

Winamp isn't all that helpful for ripping music, though.

And, since the ugly classic skin shows up in Vista thumbnails and whatnot, I'm using foobar.

 

I'm also a fan of foobar2k, very small, and when customized, sexy app.

 

foobar2k FTW!

 

Not to go off subject, but why do a lot of people prefer foobar? Is it better then winamp, and does it take up less memory and stuff?

 

It's faster, lighter, sexier (when customized), and from what I've seen/heard has better sounding audio.

 

I want to try this out. I like sexy media players. Haha.

Have any info on how to customize and stuff?

 

If you look up foobar skins on DevianArt or such, the author usually includes links and instructions for everything you need.

 

Foobar2k, and my favorite theme, FooAva to give you an example, look at some others on DeviantArt.com like pixelot suggested too.

 

Ahh thanks. Just tried it. I think I'll stick with WinAmp. I got a pretty sick skin from DevianArt, but WinAmp works better for me. Heh.

I do like foobar though.


Edit: I'm liking that FooAva skin Calvin. It's pretty sleek.

 

The reason I switched was merely because of the ugly classic theme in Vista's eye candy.

 

pardon me but i have a question. how do i get video to play in winamp. i have windows vista home premium if that makes a difference and just downloaded and installed winamp.

 

So you open up Winamp, go to open a file, select a movie file, and it doesn't play?

 

it plays but all i get is audio and when i click on the video tab i get the Nullsoft Video image.

 

It sounds like you don't have the right video codec installed to play it. If you right-click on the file, select properties, and then advanced (at least in XP; I assume it's similar in Vista), what does it say next to video compression?

 

it only shows the type of file it is. it is an MPEG-4 file.

 

i second the lack of codecs. get 'em here: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_lite_codec_pack.htm
i, personally, use k-lite. good luck

 

i have CCCP installed. so i dont think its a lack of codecs. i downloaded it from the official site. i am beginning to wonder if winamp only plays nsv vid files.

 

It might be because WinAmp doesn't like CCCP. As they listed in their wiki/faq. Try using Media player classic.

 

according to that wiki, it says that it will play most files with a moderate amount of tweaking. care to explain? sorry if i seem cranky as i just got up(college student).

 

Have you done the moderate amount of tweaking required? If not, using MPC is a lot easier and hassle free. Which is why i suggested you try it.

 

i am not going to argue with you anymore on the subject and stick with MPC for videos. to answer your question though, no i have not done any tweaking at all to WinAmp.

 

I don't believe we were arguing my friend, just a simple chat. Tell me what you think about MPC.

 

i have used MPC before and i like it. although i have to do a little window resizing to see the video as the vid initially opens in a small window. just out of curiosity, what tweaking would have to be done to make winamp play vids?

 

Man, a poll would have been nice. From what I've read, Foobar seems like what I would like to try, although Mediamonkey also looks good to me. Of the different ones (Winamp, Mediamonkey, Foobar, Songbird, and iTunes), which are good on CPU resources?

 

It should open the video at its native resolution. But if that you want them bigger, go to "View, Options, Start files in full screen". I don't know what tweaks you should have done, as i just use MPC.

Why don't you just download both and try them, it won't hurt.

 

Calvin, I believe I will go ahead and download both. However, you wouldn't happen to know which one is lighter on resources, would you?

 

Foobar2k wins in that area.

 

Thanks, Calvin. I was looking at the skins for Foobar and I've already found some really nice ones.

 

Glad to help.