plz can someone tell me the best mkx converter available..even if i got to pay its ok..i wanna rip my dvds,bluray,avi,mpeg,mp4 etc.. to Mkv..as it the highes compression container..plz
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brianstretch Notebook Virtuoso
Moved to Windows software forum.
Most DVD and Blu-ray discs are encrypted so we really can't discuss those here. Otherwise, take a look at Avidemux. -
Look up Handbrake. Its free, pretty fast, and has alot of options for the encoding.
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jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso
what format atr you conerting from and to?
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i use convertxtodvd and it works awesome edit ahh nevermind i see you want to go the other way..
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handbrake looks very sweet wish they had one for the other way around..
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while not 100% what the OP wanted, what about a MKV -> AVI converter with the ability to select which subs/audio tracks you want to use?
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jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso
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failing that, a program that would let you choose the audio track and export the subtitles into an external file that can be loaded by a program like MPC. -
jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso
or
http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/index.html
http://coreforge.org/projects/mkvextractgui/
after extraction, encode to whatever format you want with specific audio track into .avi container. -
ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
dvdfab5 to rip
staxrip
handbrake
megui
avidemux
one of those to encode.
id recomend megui the most for you as it does the muxing seperate as it should be. MKVMerge is the program you want to put it all together in a .mkv file and select subs and stuff. Its built into the GUI it makes it easy to do for new people that cant run the programs in the command line. -
Best way to do it is multistep with multiple software. First use your own ripper of choice to get the audio stream, video stream, and subtitles (handbreak probably might be able to accomplish this). Once you get all that, just get mkvtoolkit from mkv's main site, and just mux them together (doesn't take much time to do this step). If anything it would take about the same amount of time to do this as a one click process, just maybe a few minutes, and a few more clicks. That's probably the best way to do it. Mkv has nice compression because usually compression is h264, but any video compression would work since mkv is just a container.
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these + virtualdub = win. -
Is there a reason you're wanting to use AVI instead of MKV? MKV is a much superior container to AVI in all ways.
Oh, and regarding the original post... MKV is NOT a high-quality container. It can contain anything an AVI can contain. The thing is that MKV does multiple streams of multiple types better, which is why high-quality releases are typically put into MKV format instead of AVI any more. -
ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
MKV supports tons more stuff than AVI, AVI is really outdated. Half of the stuff you see on the AVI container it doesnt even truly support by design but has been forced via untraditional "hacks" or work arounds. This is why it may play fine on one computer/setup and not on another.
Its best to go with .mp4 or .mkv.
I use .mp4 for max compatability. its equal to .mkv in about 98% of what it can do but .mkv still has a few extra tricks up its sleeve that anime subbers usually can make use of.
But this is why I said mux/demux and stuff seperatly. Instead of a direct conversion from one format to another, just encode a raw H264 video file and a raw audio track and then you can mux them into a .mp4/.avi/.mkv as you see fit and go back and redo it or change it since you have the original demuxed sources. -
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ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
Well there are many things the mkv may have embeded in it that will be lost going to .avi
most of the good tools will have those "hacks" & workarounds built into them trying to clone over as many features as possible, but many of them simply are not properly or offically supported by .avi
I agree no reason to go from .mkv to .avi
I can see a reason to go from .mkv to .mp4 and that will go much smoother.
My phone videos are an example, my phone supports H264 & AAC, but it wont play it if its in a .mkv container, only if its in a .mp4
I use .M4A a lot also, as I tend to put my AAC files in there instead of leaving them as raw AAC tracks. -
Also, to edit them to make, say, an AMV.
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ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
These are just the containers, generally the data inside is H264, DivX, or Xvid for the video, and AAC, AC3, or MP3 for the audio.
IMO the best is H264 & AAC without a doubt, but you wouldnt take a file already encoded in Xvid and then recode it to H264 going from one lossless codec to another you just lose more quality so you have to do it right from the get go and encode it with the best codec from the source.
edit: here you go found a page I was looking for.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_container_formats
should be very helpfull in understanding why you want to avoid .avi look at all the unsupported things that has to be done via 3rd party and its really bad with H264. -
jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso
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ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
Id love to learn something new.
H264 started as the ultimate HD codec but now its good for anything, even anime -
jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso
Here's a link if you want to get into the codec comparison.
http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=184417335&pgno=1
I'd be glad for you can understand 1/4 of the technical details of each codec.
Anyways, the h264 and VC-1 (a.k.a WMVHD, NEROHD, DIVXHD..etc) are competing formats. Depending on the type of of media, sometimes one is better than the other. -
ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
x264 is the most up to date, most versitie, best encoder period.
The level of detail it can go into when you start tweaking individual settings is amazing, I understood that whole article thats why I quickly saw it was a waist of time since most of the information is invalid since its so old.
If your not willing to take the time to compare some more and give proof of your argument then I say thats yielding that I was correct.
We should find a video source (of your choice so you can even pick one that you think is best for the codecs you mentioned) and have an encoding challenge to see who can create the best file for quality & size.
I have +rep for you on the line if you can win -
jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso
If you're using Windows 7, there's a sample video in the video folder that's 6Mbps 1280x720 encoded with VC1 codec.
With more advanced encoder, I could probably achieve the same result with 20% less bitrate. -
ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
Thanks for taking the challenge your a good sport and this should be fun
My only ideas are the HD clips from Microsoft or the HD Movie trailers from apples site right now, but the apple stuff is already in H264, not sure what the MS stuff is formated with.
I could do a FRAPS recording when I get off work of Left 4 Dead, fraps saves it as a lossless codec, and it saves it in like 2.5gb chunks, so I can just upload the first chunk of footage and we can work with that. -
jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso
Maybe we should do an encoding challenge by downconverting it to 2MB and see which format's quality is better. That way, we can minimize the effects of converting to different format because the input quality is so high and output quality is so low.
I suggest we test out this one:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/1/b/41b10a4f-f4f4-4692-aa44-a458d0047e91/Robotica_1080.exe
I don't like to waste my internet bandwidth and this video highdef video is only 20MB.
The whole thing takes me about 10 seconds to download.
"We should find a video source (of your choice so you can even pick one that you think is best for the codecs you mentioned) and have an encoding challenge to see who can create the best file for quality & size."
After all, you said I can pick whatever video its best for the codec I'm using. -
ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
Ok sounds good, im at work and only have my 10" eee pc with me, I'll have to d/l and convert when i get off work.
do you want to do a 2mb video only or including audio? -
jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso
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Since we are talking about MKV, I have a question of my own. How do you guys strip the subtitle off MKV files? I have used Handbrake and some other converters works great for Video and Audio tasks, but they tend to ignore the subtitle. Do I have to extra it first then added to the file later?
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ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
id imagine mkvmerge can do it, I never use .mkv only because some of my devices dont handle that container and I would rather just have one file than two.
It will depend on the subtitle type too, your going to have a hard time trying to remove hardcoded subs -
I will need to look into this, as the transcoder i have doesn't work well with MKV yet. By the way, if anyone is looking for a good media streaming server for their device, I will recommend Tversity, works great for anything that's not MKV. -
i use mkv to vob its designed to make mkv files ps3 playable but you can set audio output options and file extension, you can also strip subtitles from mkv files to....
best mKV conveter....plz
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