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    can you put HD content on a dvd ?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by chomper, May 19, 2012.

  1. chomper

    chomper Notebook Consultant

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    I have some HD videos that i recorded from my phone. they were recorded in 1280x720. thats what the file says also when i play it back on my computer. the file sizes are not that large, but when i burn them to a dvd and play them back. i noticed with the VLC software it recognizes the resolution at 720x480. I never reduced the resolution when burning. I tried 2 different burning softwares. HP media smart and CYberlink. and they both downgrade the resolution to 720x 480 when the file size is way less than a GB.

    whats going on ? Can you not put HD content on to a dvd even though the file size fits ? or do i need better software ?
     
  2. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    If you want to play it in a DVD player, the resolution allowed for NTSC is 720x480 and 720x576 for PAL video.
     
  3. chomper

    chomper Notebook Consultant

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    so then I need software for burning AVC ? can AVC go on a dvd ?

    and i played the dvd back on another computer using VLC and it recognized the resolution at 720x480. but i guess thats because of the NTSC. i thought if i played it on a blu ray player or PC drive it would load the data at its original resolution. but i guess it matters 1st how its burned.
     
  4. au4all

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    If you want to play the video on a computer you can just copy (drag and drop in windows explorer) the .avi (or whatever) file directly to the DVD. That should ensure that the resolution doesn't change.

    As someone said above DVDs have a prescribed resolution that you can't change.
     
  5. chomper

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    if I drag and drop directly on to the drive thats just making a data disc.

    thats stupid that theres no software to burn an HD file to dvd at its original resolution. you would think as long as the file size fits, then there shouldnt be a problem. I can see there being an issue playing it back on a dvd player since dvd players upconvert dvds standard definition data to HD. it wouldnt exactly recognize the HD content and play it from there, unless you had a blu ray player.

    and you cant burn AVC to dvd ?
     
  6. MrDJ

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    cybelink power director does but it cost £££$$$
    ive burnt H.264AVC and it renders and burns fine but its a massive file.
    i done some test 5 minute clips using the 3 main outputs
    H.264AVC - 619mb
    mpeg-4 - 411mb
    mpeg-2 - 300mb
     
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    Personally I'm not understanding your point. You can play data disks back on a computer. DVD format has a set resolution that's unchangeable.
     
  8. MrDJ

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    what dont you understand.
    ive burnt all 3 formats and played them back on various dvd players and on computer and there is a noticeable difference in the quality.

    the OP
    have you tried converting the phone video clips using 3GP Convertor software
     
  9. chomper

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    im burning them to a dvd to mail to someone. he isnt verry computer literate and just wanted to be able to send the best quality possible. he has a blu ray player and pc dvd drive but i dont think hes ever even used the drive on his PC.

    i put the discs back in my PC using VLC to test. thats when i noticed the resolution being 720x480.
     
  10. uggarocka

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    You can theoretically do it. The physical blu-ray disc is just a medium to hold the video files authored to the blu-ray standard. Just author a blu-ray disc and burn the files to a DVD. Your video is probably short enough to fit on the 4.37gigs. However, it will only play in blu-ray players. So, if your friend is computer illiterate, he may get confused why his DVD won't play in the DVD player.
     
  11. un4tural

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    what i do in cases like this, just make data disk and include software to play the file (GOM PLAYER KMP whatever, a simple one) and just instruct them to install the software and run video on it.

    Also, on the blu-ray player it might or might not play the DVD at all at the resolution you desire, simply because it isn't meant to play DVDs as BLU-RAY... so might simply refuse to recognize the disk...
     
  12. chomper

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    He has a blue ray player. The problem is my bluray drive on my laptop is only a player. Trying to burn a video file in HD at its original resolution to Dvd. But I guess I need to upgrade my cyberlink like mrdj mentioned, unless someone knows a software for free that burns avc to dvd
     
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    Ok I downloaded. and im confused more than anything else. I made a new project to burn the same file and when i choos AVC, the amount of memory it takes up droped way down. I dont even need a dual layer disc. I even have the resolution settings at 1920X1080. but if I go back to NTSC it takes up a alot more space and need a dual layer, and thats 720X480. im confused here. shouldnt the higher resolution take up a hell alot more space on the disc ?
     
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    AVC has a lot better video quality at the same size compared to MPEG-2 which might be why it canbe made smaller. The only thing is that it takesmore CPU usage to play back, though that is no issue for technology nowadays.
     
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    still confused also with why the video quality would take up less space ? its a higher resolution. if AVC takes up less memory than NTSC, then whats the point of using the blu ray format ?

    Question for MRDJ. When i tried to hit burn at 2d with using AVC at 1920X1080. it says the output profile is only supported by hardware accelerated encoding. you must enable hardware video encoding option to use. where do i enable that ? i looked all over the place in the software.
     
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    ???thats strange as i mentioned above a 5 minute clip using avc is 619mb and same clip in mpeg2 is 300mb so less than half.

    im confused.com myself.
    i use pal so im not sure how much difference using ntsc would make.

    i will have a hunt around the software for you.
    only thing i can think of is you dont have that option in the trial version.

    also avc plays using vlc media file (.m2ts) whatever that means
    mpeg4 plays using quick time
    mpeg2 plays uing windows media player

    did you download quick time player as well as ive read that without this there could be some problems with the software.

    im no expert using this so hopefully someone with more knowledge will be able to advise. might be worth posting on the power director 10 forum

    also look > http://directorzone.cyberlink.com/posts/list/2028.page
     
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    MrDJ, is there any option to change the bitrate, or other video quality factors? Filesize can be determined by many things and often you can encode videos to a certain size. Not sure about if you are burning as a video disc..
     
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    no idea mate. im quite new to using this software also so not up on all the techy tweaks yet.
     
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    I looked into it and u have to enable the hardware Video Encoding through ur graphics card. Says online mine is compatible. But can't find the option in the graphics card properties.
     
  21. MrDJ

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    as mines an oldish card im not sure if i will have it on the 260 but i will check when i get home.
     
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    I called AMD and they said its an option in cyberlink to enable. it doesnt have anything to do with the graphics card. I had to sign up with cyberlink just to have access to call and even if you sign up after giving them your email and crap, they charge you 30 bucks for 2 months just to call them once even if you got tech problems. they can go to hell. bad way to do business.
     
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    had a quick look and all i can find is decoding not encoding.

    edit > preferences > hardware exceleration > enable hardware decoding already ticked.

    my video finally worked. i burnt it as mpeg4 this time instead of mpeg2 and the whole video plays fine. only problem is it cuts off about 3-4" either side of the screen. ive tried all the settings on both 32" and 37" sony bravia tv's but with no joy.
     
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    thats all i found to and it was already enabled. I even disabled it since it says decoding. and no progress. regarding your video cutting off of the screen. try burning another video file. the video size might not be a 178. or play with the tv settings regarding normal screen mode and full screen with the resolution.
     
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    tv has got 5 settings but all are cut off.
    whats the 178 you mention?
     
  26. chomper

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    almost all widescreen tvs today are a 1.78.1 display. the reason you see the black bars around the screen when watching different videos is because not all videos are recorded to fit your screen size evenly horizontally and vertically. even some dvds or blu rays that say the aspect ratio is 16/9. if you look at the animorphic video size on the back of a blu ray or dvd and its not 1.78.1 its not going to fit your screen 100%. 1.85.1 is close enough. 1.85.1 fills your screen about 95%. but i hate it when studios film their movies at a 2.35.1 or 2.40.1 they care more about filling the display size at the theater since its a different size vs filling our screen back home. 1.33.1 is full screen 4/3. but its designed to stretch and fill your screen 100% when watching a dvd.

    2.35.1 and 2.40.1 sizes are the average display sizes you will see on your screen with the black bars when buying movies these days.
     
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    thanks for that indepth description :)