checkdisk problem

hi, i'm having problems with performing a C: (OS is on it) diskcheck on my hp 6730b (i'm running VBusiness on it).
when i try to run a defragmentation with diskeeper, it warns me that CHKDSK is scheduled and it cannot run defrag until it's done..
when i reboot my computer, nothing happens. when i manually schedule a diskcheck in my comp-properties... nothing happens after a reboot again
i found one topic on the internet, so i tried to schedule a dskchk thru command prompt - i type "chkdsk /f C:", it says it's in use, and asks me if i would like to run a dskchk when i reboot - i say Yes. but when i do a reboot, nothing happens again!

i have no idea how could i fix this, so i'm looking for all the help u have

thanx very much

(& sorry if my engilsh is bad, i'm from croatia )

 

You aren't by any chance running some security suite that is preventing changes from being made to your system are you? I know that some suites (such as Kaspersky or Norton) might prevent the OS from scheduling an event such as checkdisk to run on startup.
Try disabling those protection software before attempting to schedule a scan.

 

i have eset smart security, is it possible that it causes of the problem?
i'll try to do what you said, tnx

 

i tried to disable the eset smart security and then schedule a diskcheck, and i also removed eset from startup programs, but unfortunately it didn't help

any more sugestions?

 

By design, Diskeeper will not defrag if the volume is marked as 'dirty' (file system error) to prevent loss/corruption of data. This is an in-built safety feature of Diskeeper vwhich made it's way into the microsoft-Diskeeper defrag API that all defraggers utilize.

Probably this might work.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753059.aspx
At the command prompt, type the following
fsutil dirty query C:
This gives you the status of the dirty bit for C:
then type
fsutil set dirty C:
This identifies the volume as dirty.
Reboot. Chkdsk will run upon startup.

 

try this (how to cancel CHKDSK after it has been scheduled):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/158675

cheers ...

 

unfortunately, this didn't help either
i marked it as dirty, but after the reboot it just went straight to logon screen (just as after many previous attempts)

i read this, but i have to schedule it (and run through it), not cancel it
tnx anyway


i really don't know where's the problem, i hope i won't need to format and reinstall windows :/

 

lil bump

 

Did you run this command as an administrator? If not, go to the command prompt application in the start menu, right click, run as administrator, and then enter the chkdsk command.

 

Check the Application Event Log and see if you have a 1001 event from Wininit. The result of the chkdsk during boot time is logged in this event.

 

tnx, i'll try

 

Have you done this yet?

 

i did it, but nothing happened
i typed the command with fsutil to mark it as dirty, and i also made a schedule with chkdsk /f C:, i was asked if i want a checkdsk to be done during the next boot, i said yes, but nothing :/

@mdrift:
"Check the Application Event Log and see if you have a 1001 event from Wininit. The result of the chkdsk during boot time is logged in this event."

where do i find this?

 

i checked it, and there's no such event :/

i still haven't found the solution to the problem

 

no problem solved yet :S

 

bump
(sorry, i know i'm boring, but it gets on my nerves :/)

 

Not boring, more just that there is so little to go on, and so many different things it could be, and the easy solutions didn't work, so you're going to have to be a bit more patient and, I'm afraid, probably do more of the diagnostics on your own (but then, that's how the rest of us learned ).

Do you have any other errors, warnings, or information logs showing up in your event logs that are related to chkdsk?

Also, do you have more than one user account on the system, or have you just recently deleted another user account from the system?

 

tnx for the answer

i didn't see any of those you mentioned here, at least they didn't occur to me (can i find it elsewhere?)

no, there's only one user account, and i'm running as administrator all the time :/

 

You may have to edit the registry to deal with a stuck chkdsk entry. Read through this MS KB article, KB831426, and then check to see what value is currently stored in the registry key the article discusses.

 

I am having the EXACT same problem..
vista home premium
brand new xps m1530 (end of august)

Its my first time running chkdsk and it doesnt work on reboot. it just loads up everything to the logon screen as normal..

 

tnx
i'll deal with that at the end of the week, then write the report here
i'm having exams this week so i don't have much time

type ya

 

Press the START ORB, and in the search box at the bottom type (but don't press enter)

CMD

Wait. Don't do anything yet and you will note the start menu blanks with the word SEARCHING at the top. Eventually CMD.EXE will appear.

Right click the CMD.EXE and choose RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR

a black command line box will appear with something like c:\users\username>

in the box type the following

CHKNTFS /D
<enter>
(this restores machine to default behavior)

Now, type

fsutil dirty set c:
<enter>
(not fsutil set dirty c:, which is what you typed earlier if you followed Andromeda's directions)

This sets the dirty bit volume

now type

chkdsk /f
<enter>

say yes, reboot

 

tnx, i'll try

edit: no, i typed what u said here, cause it said it wasn't a valid command

edit2:
nothing, it just goes directly to the logon screen again

 

I don't understand your edit 1--did you eventually get the command to enter

One more time into the breach

same as above, but this time

chkntfs /d
<enter>

then
chkntfs /c c:
<enter>

reboot.

If nothing, I have one more trick up my sleave

 

Gerry is absolutely right.
My sincere apologies for the mixup in the syntax for the fsutil command. I should have been more careful while typing.
That MS link has the right syntax too.

 

edit1 was about the order of words in the command
i typed it correctly, as you said, the first time, when andromeda told me to try that (andromeda, no problem, don't worry )

(but when i enter the cmd, it says:
C:\Windows\system32>
not
c:\users\username>

like you mentioned. that is shown when i don't run it as admin)


i'll try what u say now


report: unfortunately, nothing new same old behaviour
hit that last trick

 

Step 1


download RC.iso from the following link:

http://www.thecomputerparamedic.com/rc.iso

You need to burn this image to a CD and boot your computer with it--this is different than burning a file to a CD. If you do not know how to burn an ISO image, then download the following program to another machine, install it.

make certain you download the proper installation for your version of windows. Open MY COMPUTER, choose HELP > ABOUT. Note the service pack and get the appropriate version of the iso burner power toy

http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm

After installation, reboot, then right click the RC.iso file you downloaded above and choose COPY IMAGE TO CD.

Then reboot your broken PC with that CD in the CD-ROM drive.

This will give you a recovery console to use to run

Insert the cd into the non-functioning PC



STEP 2

When boot begins, a windows setup will appear to start, don't worry, it is only the recovery console loading.

You will need to select your windows installation by pressing a number, most likely 1

Windows will ask you for a password

This is the administrator password used to set up windows

After entering the password, you will find yourself at a command prompt that looks like this

c:\windows

type
chkdsk /r
<enter>

follow the prompts, then when it is complete (about an hour), remove the CD

type

EXIT

<enter>

the machine will reboot

Vista will now load.

Let's try a normal chkdsk again

 

OK....drat...if you are reading this Wednesday night, you are going to have to wait until tomorrow for that first link. My webhost is moving my server today to a new server farm and it just happens to have started a half hour ago

 

BSOD

press any key to boot from CD - i pressed
started something like windows setup, but after loading stuff (in the bottom of the screen) it just went BSOD telling

STOP: 0x0000007B (0xf78da63c, 0x0000034, 0x0,0x0)
:/

 

google found this:

http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=962474&postcount=3

but it's connected with SATA problems and XP instalation, not vista :/

 

You probably have an sata drive in there...so, then, do you have another computer with a spare sata port?

The idea here is we want to take your OS completely offline so we can run a chkdsk on it. Taking a notebook sata drive out and hooking it up to a desktop with an extra sata port is actually very easy- Both 3.5 and 2.5 sata drives have the same connections

In rare occasions (just twice in almost two years) with Vista I've had to run chkdsk with the drive mounted as a slave in another computer to get it to function properly (after that, it appears to run fine) and it sounds like yours is one of those rarities.

 

hm
since the lap is mere 2 months old, i wouldn't like to open it and do such things..

i really don't have much luck with it, cause now my battery makes problems too..
i took it out cause i haven't moved my lap from home for about 2 weeks (it was on 40%)
the lap wont turn on when its only on battery, and when i plug the power cord in, in windows it says "plugged in, charging", but it stays on 40% :/

 

There is something very wrong with your Vista or your hardware or both. I don't understand how chkdsk could fail to start unless something on your computer (virus?) is overriding your settings when you reboot. Are you sure the computer is clean?

If it is only 2 months old and you have the backup disks to reinstall the OS and drivers, it may be worth it to start from scratch (i.e. reformat). This is a drastic solution so ordinarily I wouldn't recommend it until you've tried everything else, but if you haven't installed much on the laptop yet, it may be the quickest way.

 

i gave it to the service (main reason was the battery), they changed it, now it worx, but the checkdisk problem still exists
the guy from the service told me he performed a diskcheck via some kind of ntfs boot cd - besides the diskcheck, there are other tests that can be performed

so i wanted to ask you if you know something about that, and where can i download or how to create such thing

tnx

 

You have got to be running some kind of software that prevents registry changes....what kind of anti-malware program are you using?

I've seen this behavior from Norton, Spybot and Spysweeper.

 

eset smart security 3.0.621.0

i've been searching for settings that could be connected with checkdisk there, but have found nothing :/

+ ad-aware, spybot and malwarebyte

i'll explore spybot's settings too

do you think i should try to uninstall spybot and then try with checkdisk scheduling?

EDIT: uninstalling spybot didn't help

 

Actually, what I want you to do is install Spybot with tea-timer, then run the chkdsk /f command from the command line.

Team timer should pop an alert asking you if you want to add a setting to the registry. say YES ALLOW and chk REMEMBER

 

i enabled the teatimer
this is what i get after typing chkdsk /r in cmd



but after reboot nothing happens, and this same window shows after logging into windows - i allow it again, but no effect :/

 

you have some vista cd? if so, you should be able to boot from it into console mode. there, you can then run chkdsk.

else, just uninstall any security software you have, and try then?

or boot into save mode, and try to set chkdsk then?

or boot into save mode cmdline and try to chkdsk then?

options over options..

 

The windows is EXACTLY the same on reboot? Or slightly different?

Run the chkdsk command again, please, but before rebooting, start run, REGEDIT and navigate to

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager

Copy the key and paste the contents here

 

i tried all of this, except the first one - i'll try it

yes, it's exactly the same
there's a boot execute line, and here's the content of it

autocheck autochk /r \??\C:
autocheck lsdelete
autocheck lsdelete
autocheck autochk *

 

actually, I think the comands are slightly different. Also, I was curious about the other settings in the Session key.

Nevertheless, this is what I want you to try.

Close any and all security programs including teatimer
First, select the key and export it (File > Export)

Next, souble click the BOOTEXECUTE string value and in the box that appears (it will be called EDIT MULTISTRING, I want you to select everything in the box and delete it so it is blank.

close regedit

now start > run, type CMD, right click the CMD that appears atop the start menu and choose RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR

in the command line box type

CHKDSK /F

Say yes.

Reboot.

report back

 

report:

same old
i logged into windows, entered the regedit and there's a bootexecute entry again, with following line
autocheck autochk /p \??\C:

then the spybot window appeared again

before, it said what's on the picture on the previous page
now it says:
old data: autocheck autochk /r \??\C:\autocheck lsde....
new data: autocheck autochk /p \??\C:\

 

i hate security software my system is stable and secure without all such "helpers". that's why vista has uac. to not allow things to happen without me being aware.

just boot from cd if you can't get your security software to stop blocking you.

 

You clearly have some security software misbehaving.

I really don't want to do this, but....

Run hijackthis (google it), then save a log and AS A TEXT FILE (FILE > SAVE AS) then ATTACH IT (do not post) to your next post.

I am not looking for malware. I am looking for what programs or combinations of programs that might cause this behavior.

 

GREAT NEWS guys

i did what davepermen said, and it worked

TNX A LOT to everyone, especially to you, gerryf19, for your endless tries, and you, davepermen, for the solution of the problem!

now i can run diskeeper defrag on C: ^^

thank you again

 

but something is still blocking the change...what spyware and malware programs do you have

 

eset smart security - it's active all the time

then i occasionally use spybot S&D, Ad-Aware and Malwarebytes Antimalware

 

I had this problem on Vista Ultimate 64. I had to disable everything from running at startup to get chkdsk to run. Goto run, type msconfig. Click service tab, then check "hide all microsoft services." Uncheck all remaining services. Click startup tab, click "disable all." Apply and reboot. Then try to run chkdsk again. After it completes, put everything back.

 

glad it worked! (that works ALLWAYS.. love this cd to be the magic god for people with problems )