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    defrag programm

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by zakazak, Sep 12, 2009.

  1. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    which programm do u use for defraging in win7 ?

    the build in one cant defrag C: for me.. i guess because the os is on it.

    thx
     
  2. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    The built in one can defrag C: for you. BTW... defrag is done automatically in windows 7.

    I use diskeeper to defrag my hdds.
     
  3. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    i disabled the defrag scheduler

    if i start the disk defrag from win7 it only shows E:

    not C:

    @edit: is diskeeper for free? :)
     
  4. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Unfortunately, diskeeper isn't free.
     
  5. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    hm thats sad.. i would need one for free.
    altough diskeeper seems to have alot of optimation options.

    How ever:
    how the hell did u made your netbook boot so fast? :eek:
    my asus needs 50seconds.. and i got way better hardware than your notebook?

    also: "adjusted TCIP max half open" doesnt win7 have this set to unlimited?

    danke for help :)
     
  6. Szadzik

    Szadzik Notebook Evangelist

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    Use defragler then.

    As to the startup thing; heard of SSDs?
     
  7. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    defragler works with win7 x64?

    no i never heard of a ssd.. and no i dont want one in my laptop
     
  8. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I use MyDefag formerly know as JKDefrag.

    It's free, it's extremely lightweight, and extremely simple to use. And from what I can tell, works very well and is fast.
     
  9. Szadzik

    Szadzik Notebook Evangelist

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    I use defragler with 7 pro x64 with no problems.

    SSD = solid state drive, a drive built similarly to an SD/ CF card that has no spinning or moving parts inside and is very fast.
     
  10. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    [ironic]no i never heard of a ssd[/ironic] :D

    i know what it is.. but its pretty expensive :/

    hmm i just installed defraggler.. and it seems nice (altough it failed to check my hd for problems). MyDefrag seems to have an "optimation" feature from what i can read on the start-page.. i wonder if this is rly usefull.

    Will give mydefrag a try tomorrow.. or can anyone tell me if this optimation in myfrag has any sense? :)

    gn8 all
     
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    powerfull499 Notebook Evangelist

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  12. Szadzik

    Szadzik Notebook Evangelist

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    Just installed mydefrag and it is very plain. No options and no scheduling.
     
  13. fiveo

    fiveo Notebook Consultant

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    One more vote for Auslogic Disc Defrag here. You can schedule a defrag with this program as well.
     
  14. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Your defrag probably fails because you disabled some services without knowing what they do. Did you disable any services?

    I use O&O defrag
     
  15. angelicvoices

    angelicvoices Notebook Deity

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    I've find that second best to Diskeeper, which is not free.

    Auslogic royally screwed up my OS installation last time I used it. Will not be doing that again.
     
  16. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You can schedule defrags with MyDefrag via the Windows Task Scheduler.
     
  17. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    yes i disabled some services.. but only services which should be safe.. and afterall i still read what this service does and if i´m not sure i will not disable it.

    Could u maybe tell me which service could cause the problem? :)

    will dl my defrag now and check it.
    i dont need scheduling anyway. i will do that on my own.
     
  18. surfasb

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    Built in Degragger ftw.
     
  19. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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  20. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    There are no such thing as a useless service. They all do something.
    Usually, the only service that is "ok" to stop is if you don't have the hardware or is something you really don't use, most of them these are set to manual, and either way doesn't run.
    Some services do more then the provided overview description, still related, of course to it's purpose. And remember that since Vista, Windows auto-optimizes itself.

    Disabling services does not provide any advantage since Vista. Boot is not faster, account loading/shutdown is the same speed. Yes, I calculated that.
    The only advantage is to save a few KB/MB of RAM, nothing significant compared to your 2GB of RAM or more.

    Windows Defragmenter uses the following services (running and set on Automatic)
    - "Task Scheduler" (critical Windows service)
    - "Disk Defragmenter"
    - "Remote Procedure Call (RPC)"
    - "DCOM Server Process Launcher"
    - "RPC Endpoint Mapper"

    Restart your computer, and it should work now.

    Safe to disable services:
    - Offline Files (if you don't use it)
    - Smart Card
    - Smart Card Removal Policy
    - Ambient Light Sensor (if you don't have one - Win7 only)
    - ASP .NET Sate Service
    - Bluetooth Support Service (if you dont' have Bluetooth)
    - Not Microsoft's but: Logitech Bluetooth Service (if you dont' have a Logitech Bluetooth mouse)
    - Card Space
    - Parental Control
    - Program Compatibility Assistant Service (box that inform you if a application may be need to run under compatibility and help you do it... if you know how you do it manually and know when to do it, you can disable it)
    - Remote Registry
    - TPM Base Service (if you don't have a TPM chip or have disabled in teh BIOS)
    - Windows Biometric Service (Win7 only)
    - Windows Error Reporting Service (Reports to Microsoft when an application has an porblem and provide you with a solution)
    - All other Media Center service, but ONLY if you don't use Media Center.
     
  21. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    i havent disabled them.. only set them to manual. i think i never touched the services i need for defrag.

    however, thanks for your "save list".. disabled these.
    this will maybe also save 1-2 process (e.g.had an error reporting process all the time).

    i installed mydefrag 4.2.0 beta now.. and i´m currently looking for the right configuration.
    i have the windows boot optimation enabled(also prefetch and superfetch), windows defrag disabled.. and i think i will let the "daily optimation" of mydefrag run every day when the laptop is on idle. and will run the "monthly optimation" manually. How ever, i´m not sure if this will be the right setup and also i´m not sure on how to create a task which will run the mydefrag script only when i´m on idle, stops it when i´m back from idle (dont know if mydefrag supports a stop) and also only runs the task once a day (even if i´m 20 times on idle.. only run it once a day).

    thanks :D
     
  22. TwiztidKidd

    TwiztidKidd Notebook Evangelist

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    Try SmartDefrag which is free. Recommended by someone else on this forum. I think it's the best and fastest free program to defrag. It says it's designed to support W7 also.

    http://www.iobit.com/iobitsmartdefrag.html
     
  23. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    i know its not free but almost.. puran defrag 19.95 for lifetime lic. imo best defrag out there paid or not
     
  24. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    hm i wonder why mydefrag should be better than the build in defrag

    i got defrag on schedule by both (jut that the mydefrag one is a bit buggy) and i got boot optimation in both.. hmm
     
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    MyDefrag just gives you more options. Otherwise they use the same mechanismto defrag your harddrive.

    Options like custom sorting the items in your harddrive, creating gaps in between files, etc.
     
  26. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    so i could also use the build in boot optimation and defrager and would have the same "performance" ?
     
  27. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    quore from the mydefrag admin:

    i think i will stick with my defrag.. but the task scheduler wont work fine i guess.

    i can set:
    18:30 daily -> conditions -> on idle for 10 minutes -> wait for idle for 2 hours

    which means it would start on 18:30 , waits until i´m 10 mins on idle and then starts the program. but it will only wait for an idle until 20:30 (2 hours). u cant choose more than 2 hours :/
     
  28. Andromeda

    Andromeda Notebook Consultant

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    Diskeeper 2009 Pro is excellent. It works really well with win 7.
    Just set it to auto defrag and let it take care of the drives- it will defrag and optimize file sequencing on it's own. :cool:
     
  29. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    as soon as i got the money to give it out for a defrag programm :eek:
     
  30. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    puran blows that away and has all the auto stuff as well.. way better boot time than dkeeper. imo dont waste that kind of money. take the puran trial for 30 days i promise you will love it
     
  31. davepermen

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    don't know puran, but that kind of money is better saved and then wasted on an ssd :)
     
  32. zfactor

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    19.95?? imo really cheap for a lifetime lic..
     
  33. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    defraggler.com, free for lifetime, and you are 20$ faster to your ssd, much better than any lifetime payment on some defrag-program you won't use anymore in 1, 2 years anyways.
     
  34. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    i´m propably buying a 80gb ssd for 150€ .. however i would still need to defrag it :p

    it seems like mydefrag is a good programm.. but the "run at idle" doesnt work when done with task scheduler.. rly sad :/
     
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    um, why do you need to defrag an SSD??
     
  36. zfactor

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    you should not be defragging ssd's imo
     
  37. davepermen

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    no, defragging an ssd is 99.99% useless (i know some use for it, but it's terribly tiny)