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    disable page file in vista64 problem

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Tinderbox (UK), May 9, 2008.

  1. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Hi.

    I have upgrade from 2GB to 4GB and have 3GB free.

    So i decided to turn of the "Automatic page filesize " as i should have ample memory.

    So i selected "disable page file", and rebooted.

    But when i check the page file setting, it has changed to "system managed size"

    Anybody know why i cannot disable the page file.

    Thanks

    John.
     
  2. NAS Ghost

    NAS Ghost Notebook Deity

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    Did you hit the "set" key after you selected disable?
     
  3. ScifiMike12

    ScifiMike12 Drinking the good stuff

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    Don't forget to click apply afterwards as well. I know I accidently clicked 'cancel' thinking it had 'set' the values I entered. I thought wrong. :eek:
     
  4. Tinderbox (UK)

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    Hi.

    I forgot to click the set key, I always click appy and then ok.

    I still have 3GB free, after disabling the page file.

    thanks for the help guys.

    john.
     
  5. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    Um... Don't?

    Doing this won't get you any better performance, and it seriously ruins the point in running a 64-bit OS. The entire point in running 64-bit is that you have a huge memory space. Now, preventing the system from ever using more than 4GB *total* for all processes + Windows is just dumb.


    Why is it that so many people put so much effort into sabotaging their own computers?
    Why don't we delete all files that start with 'p' as well, while we're at it? It's just as random, and just as likely to be beneficial.
     
  6. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    It is recommended to leave the page file on as Windows does write some important data to disk that would not be trusted to be written to RAM. Maybe that explains to you why the page file is important. ;)
     
  7. Tinderbox (UK)

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    Hi.

    I cannot see vista not writing important data to the HDD, pagefile or not.

    Regards

    John.
     
  8. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Can I get an AMEN, brothers and sisters? It is almost funny how many folks seem to think they know more about operating systems than the folks who wrote them in the first place.

    Gary
     
  9. sirmetman

    sirmetman Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well, OSes are designed to be the most things to the most people, so some customizations are appropriate and good. That said, the problem is more when people say, "hey my friend Bill said that he heard if you set your desktop to a solid color image, your HDD will run faster". Generally, unless you know information is from a knowledgeable and reliable source, you shouldn't do something unless you have a good idea of why it actually works to do what you want it to. The whole page file thing is a weird almost urban legend kind of thing these days.
     
  10. Tinderbox (UK)

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    Hi.

    I have a meter on my taskbar that shows how much free memory i have, and it has not changed since it turned the pagefile off?

    regards

    John.
     
  11. sirmetman

    sirmetman Notebook Virtuoso

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    Have you gotten any benchmarks that prove better perf? Otherwise, you did something with no point that only has the potential to cause you problems.
     
  12. Tinderbox (UK)

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    Hi.

    If it stops the HDD constantly writing in the background, that`s good enough for me.

    I doubt it is any faster, that not what i was looking for.

    All my user data is backed-up, so i am not worried.

    regards

    John.

     
  13. _radditz_

    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    John,

    Can you please run superPI and SiSoft Sandra benchmarks to satisfy everyone who says prove with numbers? Seems your system with/without a PF so you are in a good position to do so.

    Thanks.
     
  14. Tinderbox (UK)

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    Hi.

    Superpi does not support my quadcore.

    I just run Wprime 32M and i got the same score 17.284 seconds as i did before i disabled the pagefile.

    But i did not expect any change, why should their be!

    I need some type of word,exel, spredsheet and the like benchmark, can you suggest any.

    Regards

    PS. I have installed sandra 2008 lite, which test do you want me to run!

    John.
     
  15. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    And that proves what?

    Gary
     
  16. Tinderbox (UK)

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    I am not trying to prove anything, but if the pagefile is now been stored in memory, it`s not showing up.

    regards

    John.

     
  17. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I`ve had my PF disabled since last month. No problems,and no apparent increases either,except for less disk activity.
    I`m not saying it`s good,or advise anyone to do it.
    But it seems to be working for me,as it is for John here.
    If something will go wrong I`ll have learned my lesson :)
     
  18. sirmetman

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    Ok, fine. I'm glad you knew what you wanted, and got it. Just most people disable page file cause they think it will make their comp faster. Congratulations, you are above average. ;)
     
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    powerpack Notebook Prophet

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    So what benefit are you getting by not having a page file? I mean the one theory that it forces more into RAM and therefor operates faster does not seem to apply, as you have said no change in amount of free RAM. Having it does not hurt, not having it can sometimes cause a crash. But to each his own, good luck.
     
  20. ScifiMike12

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    Personally, I have to have page file disabled or at least turn it down a lot.

    Stupid 4GB of HDD space. :/
     
  21. jnorman5

    jnorman5 Notebook Consultant

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    4GB of HDD space??? Yikes! I also have my pagefile disabled but also to reduce the amount of disk thrashing. I do no mission critical work on my laptop though, so worse case senario is that if my system does crash (hasn't once yet *knock on wood*), I redo the 5 minutes of word processing I lost or restart my game.

    Cheers,

    Josh
     
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    ScifiMike12 , EEE Pc? :D
     
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    I have disabled my pagefile and have had no adverse affects from it. Actually, id like to see/know the adverse affects of disabling pagefile. I am in the same boat as tinderbox; I dont expect an increase in performance but rather i like my extra 3Gigs of space.
     
  24. Tinderbox (UK)

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    Hi.

    I still have a hidden 4.6GB pagefile.sys on my C drive , but the date suggest it was written to, at 8am yesterday morning.

    So 4.65GB is still being wasted.

    I just set the pagefile to the smallest size 16mb and then disabled it.

    Their is another 4.3GB file hiberfil.sys for the system hibernation.

    Regards

    John.