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    flv,mkv,avi thumbnails

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by zakazak, Sep 8, 2009.

  1. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    hello, on my desktop i got 2 .flv files.. on of those has a thumbnail (preview of the video as icon). The other one doesnt ?
    Also in videos i have .avi .mkv and .flv files which dont have a thumbnail.. only the standart icon. mp4,mov,m4a work fine :/

    Is there a fix, bug or smth i did wrong? :x

    thx


    also: i got win 7 pro from my university.. can i somehow pin games and videos to the start panel like it is with music,pictures,.. ?
     
  2. buckle

    buckle Notebook Guru

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    try, Control Panel > Folder Options > View (tab) > Untick 'Always show icons, never thumbnails'
     
  3. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    it is unticked :/
     
  4. buckle

    buckle Notebook Guru

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    sorry, no idea, maybe someone else can help you

    mkv dont show up for me at all, only avi's
    dont got others to test
     
  5. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

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    Use Shark007 codec pack. Mine shows thumbnails for all file types.
     
  6. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    Windows needs special file handlers so it can show you previews of those files. I personally use the Klite codex pk and it DOESN'T show the thumbnails. I'm gonna have to try the Shark007 pk myself.
     
  7. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    hm can u play this clip with your codec pack?

    http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman01/killer_sample.mkv

    the only pack which lets me play this smooth was k-lite pack.. altough i never tried the shark one. could u give it a try and maybe tell me your settings too?

    And somehow i got thumbnails of .flv files.. but only of one oO

    @edit: it seems like only files which only start ffdshow video decoder , create a thumbnail :/
    @edit2: also i use media player classic.. will that work ? i dont have wmp or media center installed anymore
     
  8. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Vista Codec pack is for Windows Media Player and allows me to view thumbnails on flv files. (by default)
     
  9. tomorrow

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    Currently theres a problem with .mkv thumbnails not popping up.

    This is due to incompatability of Haali Media Splitter for Windows 7 x64

    Apparently they are aware of the issue so lets hope for a fix soon.Other formats have thumbnails.Just install your favoruite codec pack.
     
  10. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    +1, Best codec pack. If you use Vista/Win7 64-bit install the 32-bit, PLUS the 64-bit codec pack component.
    It was specifically design for Vista and Windows 7, both 32-bit and 64-bit. It doesn't corrupt your system, and keep using Windows build-in codecs which are excellent. Just make sure to remove any crappy old codec pack that you have BEFORE installing Shark007 Codec Pack.

    I see FLV, M4K, AVI, WMV and other formats videos thumbnail all showing correctly.
     
  11. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    But does this work with mpc? Also: does it make thumbnails for movies which dont use haali video decoder?

    I dont have wmp or media center installed anymore and dont want it
     
  12. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    it's a codec pack, so it works for any app that uses codecs, like wmp, media center, or mpc, too.

    that's why i prefer codec packs over stuff like vlc: i can use it in every app, then.
     
  13. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    So could u give it a tdy and tell me if the clip i posted before runs smooth?
     
  14. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    can't test on this system. i'll test laters.
     
  15. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    okay np :)

    if wmp + shark007 pack work with this file i might give it a try with all this wmp and media center stuff
     
  16. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Remember that Windows Media Player 12 (especially teh 64-bit, which the codec pack allows you to enable), was greatly improved.... no sorry re-written.
    WMP12 is 2 application. The first is the one with the library and things, it's medium-light, lighter by far than any WMP ever created (except the 6). And the second one is very light (MPC light!), which runs when you play a video, like when you double click on a video to view it. It's just a box with your video playing, and overlay of controls. It's stops there. You have to hit a button on this light player to go to the full one.

    Anyway, this was just personal information, as I under how WMP was crappy before, but it is unfair to immediately not look at it just because it has the name "Windows Media Player" on it.

    The codec pack will work with any multi-media software you prefer. Just remember to remove any old codecs or codec pack that you installed, else you will MAY get a big mess.

    I can't test the video as I get 404 error on the page. But I do have M4v HD 1080p on my system, and it runs smoothly on both my system, and I do have a the thumbnail preview.
     
  17. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    okay i will uninstall k-lite codec pack, re enable the windows media center + wmp and install the shark pack (first 32 bit then 64bit).

    maybe i´m going to use wmp as music player too.. will see.. but foobar was jut rly fast, looked good and offered tons of plugins (like lyrics auto download + display and more.. i guess thats not possible with wmp?).
     
  18. davepermen

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    you can continue with foobar if you like. but just don't prejudge new versions of existing software, but always re-evaluate.
     
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  20. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    i didnt rly judge it.. i wrote that i dont know how it is and that i only know how the old versions are.. but mpc + foobar always worked fine for me so i never saw a reason why to switch.

    but here is my problem :p -> if i switch for wmp but still use foobar i dont have any "gain" ?.. i still would use two players (foobar for music, wmp for videos of all kind) just like now (foobar and mpc for all kind of videos).
    As i have a laptop i always have my music with me so i dont need sharing (which would also work with foobar).

    or does the media center bring anything else? (sry i have never used it before :/ )
     
  21. TwiztidKidd

    TwiztidKidd Notebook Evangelist

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    By mpc... you mean media player classic or media player center?
     
  22. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    mpc = "Media Player Classic"
    wmp = " Windows Media Player"
    wmpc = " Windows Media Center"
     
  23. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    ye i meant media player classic :)
     
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    what kind of problem do you have with mpc? File association or codecs taking merit over other codecs?
     
  25. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    no problem at all :p
    i just dont have thumbnails for all video files.

    and that i´m currently trying to find out what is better.. wmp+media center only OR wmp(and media center) + foobar OR foobar + mpc :)
     
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    I use mpc + winamp 2.95 because I know everything about their setup and keep wmp11 for web stream videos. If you have the AC3 Filter for mpc installed and enabled (I recommend the 1.51a version) you'll notice the EQ is better than winamp's or foobar's. Look at the freq. sliders on the eq. You can't beat that. Then you have the channel configuration... you have so many possibilities.
     
  27. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    foobar is fine as music player for me..

    doesnt support mpc streams? I think it does?
     
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    What I meant to say is that winamp or foobar are perfectly fine for audio output. They not really meant for video but they manage using plug-ins. I don't know if they can play a DVD using DTS sound, they probably have no idea how to deal with it. Everything is so much easier with mpc.
     
  29. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    dts is no problem.. there so many codecs and plugins for foobar that it can play nearly everything.. sega files , n64 files.. what ever u want.. foobar normaly has a plugin for it :D

    and if not.. ye then i use mpc u are right !

    and i always did that for years already. so i rly wonder why i should move to wmp + media center :)

    its not like i´m totalyl against it.. i just want to find out what it makes it better or good.

    GoodBytes seems to use and to like it.. so maybe he can help me out ;)
     
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    not wmc for windows media center? there is no "player" in there..

    :)
     
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    Codec packs, as a general rule, are a less ideal solution because they override other players' settings and get into a battle of each one setting a higher system priority over competing codecs in the pack. As such:

    Media Player Classic Home Cinema Edition + Haali's + AC3Filter is my preferred setup, with AC3Filter set to only function with mplayerc.exe. It plays everything, is fast, smooth, and uncluttered.
     
  32. GoodBytes

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    Maybe, but not shark007. That was the MAIN idea of this codec pack, when the project first started. It clearly state to remove previous codec pack (in the hope that it didn't screw up your system already), and also to uninstall RealPlayer to prevent conflicts with it.

    Shark 007 Codec pack uses FFDShow + Haalli's + DXVA + Microsoft + XviD codecs, all by associating each video format to it's best codec. Of course, a provided panel, allows you to change that, to your preference. Default settings are the best, is what I found. If you have any problem with the codec pack, there is a support forum on the site.
     
  33. zakazak

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    will try out the shark007 pack today.. but i think i will stay with foobar + mpc and disable wmp + media center
     
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    I'm testing the shark on my computers atm.
     
  35. zakazak

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    hm i installed it now

    32bit shark 007
    64bit shark007
    64bit mpc (from shark page) still no thumbnails.. but ye it plays everything until now..

    all in all same as k-lite codec pack :/

    @edit: okay not.. i cant play that clip with shark007 (not smooth)
    with k-lite it worked..
     
  36. GoodBytes

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    I think the problem is that you disabled thumbnail preview in WIndows.

    Do Start > right-click on Computer > Properties > Advance system properties. Then click on "Settings" button, under Performance.

    And check the box "show thumbnail instead of icons" > Apply > OK
    Restart your ocmputer, and see if it works.

    Wait a few seconds within the folder to allow Windows to grab the thumbnail preview.

    If it doesn't work, then something got corrupted in Windows.

    That is strange. Just a curiosity question, is it also choppy when you use Windows Media Player 12 32-bit.. and how about the 64-bit.
    (I just wonder with 64-bit or 32-bit helps).
     
  37. zakazak

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    for thumbnails -> i have all that enabled

    for player -> mpc 32 bit doesnt work either
     
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    well, i installed win7 64bit, and shark, had all thumbnails, and all sort of movies worked. right now i'm back on vista 32bit, and all works just as well.
     
  39. GoodBytes

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    As I feared. I believe, that either your OS got somehow corrupted or your previous codec pack broke something. Or a software tries to override any other codecs installed. Of course, I can only guess.
     
  40. zakazak

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    hmm.. thats bad :/
    guess i will go back to k-lite pack and keep working with missing thumbnails.

    thanks guys
     
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    This codec seems to screw with my windows media player. It will play music just fine, but the GUI is corrupt. Time to hit their forums.
     
  42. GoodBytes

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    I guess a bad release was accidentally released.
     
  43. zakazak

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    hmm now i got 2 new videos and they got thumbnails.. i will just try it out for some time
     
  44. zakazak

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    update: just tried to dl a videos from youtube.
    its a .flv file and i dont get a thumbnail for it..

    shark seems to have all decoders up to date and also mpc.. while k-lite doesnt.. but still k-lite can play clips which shark007 cant :x

    not sure what to use :eek:
     
  45. GoodBytes

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    FLV works great here with Shark Codec 64-bit (using Windows Media Player 64-bit), and I do have thumbnail preview on them. I really think K-lite (or previous codec pack, if you tried that) screwed up your system. So Shark Codec pack doesn't work properly.

    Oh Shark codec pack has a option panel called "Settings Application x64", open it and see if playing with some options you can get it to work properly.
     
  46. zakazak

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    i will try it out on virtual pc.

    install shark007 and see if i have thumbnails
    install on another virtualpc k-lite and see if i have thumbnails

    anyway i cant change it except if i reinstall my os (i guess?).. so i jsut switched back to k-lite mega pack (which also support realmedia formats). it playes 2-3 clips which didnt work with shark007. and also i´m not sure if shark007 offers realmedia support.

    if anyone has a fix for my thumbnail problem tell me plese :/

    maybe i screwed it up with ccleaner deleting some registry entry? but i dont think so as a re-install would have created the regisrty entry again..
     
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    you can rollback the CCcleaner edits.
     
  48. zakazak

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    nah i never made backups :p
    normally it was always safe :(