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    is windows 7 retail 32 bit or 64 bit? what about cross 32-64 upgrades from vista?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by laggedout, Jun 29, 2009.

  1. laggedout

    laggedout Notebook Consultant

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    I dont see any mention on the pre-order whether windows 7 is a 32 bit or 64 bit os. but windows 7 RC has 2 versions.

    I currently own a vista 32. I would do the pre-order if I can change from vista32->windows 7 64 bit. Otherwise I will have to purchase the full windows 7 64 bit, in which case there is no discount advantage.

    How does it work
     
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    Per Microsoft's FAQ, the Windows 7 upgrade comes with both 32-bit and 64-bit disks.
     
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    What about cross upgrade? (cause thats the only one with discount for preorder)

    Vista 32bit -> windows 7 64 bit?
     
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    crash NBR Assassin

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    That works, but you will need to do a clean install instead of an in-place install. That means that all your data (files, programs, games, etc) will be delete and you will start out with just a fresh OS. A clean install is required any time you go from 32-bit to 64-bit.

    You can do Vista 32-bit to Windows 7 32-bit as an in-place upgrade, meaning that all your files and programs remain intact while just the OS upgrades.
     
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    how is that?

    my vista 32 bit is OEM that came with the computer btw. So that means if I get my windows 7 upgrade dvds, I pop it in and it will transfer it to a 64 bit system? Or do you mean it only works for retail vista 32 bit dvds?
     
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    Read crash's post again. 32 -> 32, in-place upgrade. 32 -> 64, complete install which wipes all existing data.
     
  7. laggedout

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    Okok, so does that mean even with OEM vista 32, the windows 7 upgrade retail 64 bit dvd will still install a brand new windows 7 64 on the PC so long as you having to format?
     
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    No. 32 bit Vista will be completely replaced by 64 bit Windows 7.
     
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    laggedout Notebook Consultant

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    I know it will. And I will want it to. My question is:

    will it work for windows 7 UPGRADE dvd. The one having half price with pre-order right now. The full version has no discount. I don't doubt the full version can replace a 32 bit vista. I am worried if the windows 7 UPGRADE can change a 32bit vista OEM into a 64bit windows 7 retail.

    my dilemma is, if the upgrade can only do 32bit vista OEM ---> 32bit windows 7 retail, and I only want 64 bit windows 7, then I am forced to get full version windows 7 and not waste money on the half price upgrade deal.
     
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    The upgrade disks will work on any genuine Vista install, OEM or retail. As long as a validated copy of Vista is installed on your computer (which it is), then the upgrade should run without requiring further validation - it should detect the Vista install.

    As for the difference between clean install and in-place upgrading... any time you change architecture (32-bit to 64-bit, or vice-versa), you will need to do a clean install. This is still and "upgrade" to Windows 7, it just erases all your data then installs the OS.

    An in-place upgrade keeps all your data and upgrades the OS without touching your files and programs.

    One more point - in order to run the 64-bit installer in a 32-bit environment, you will need to boot from the DVD. That's nothing to worry about, it's just a technical point. There should be instructions on how to do this with the disks (or just post back and we can tell you :) ).

    EDIT: Aargh I posted slowly, but I think the answer to your post is here.
     
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    kegobeer 1 hr late but moving fast

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    I guess you didn't read the FAQ:

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/offers/pre-order-faq.aspx
     
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    laggedout Notebook Consultant

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    ok thanks! I will probably preorder mine today then.
     
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    At $49, it's a pretty good deal. I think it's still a rip-off they're selling it for $120 full price though.
     
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    yea thats expensive. I am trying the RC version and to me its like vista with cosmetic changes. I also cant seem to change my start taskbar back to windows xp days.

    But I might need to get windows 7 business cause mine is currently vista business so its prob a 100 bucks for me.
     
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    Yea, Vista Business -> Windows 7 Professional.
     
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    Is $99 a good deal for Windows 7 Professional Upgrade? I don't care for Home Premium, but $99 seems a little steep. Although, I'm considering subscribing to TechNet Plus, which would make sense I think, instead, to update my two desktops and two notebooks.
     
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    For multiple computers, TechNet is definitely the way to go. I'm waiting for another deal before I subscribe. Unfortunately, the $100 off deal expired on 3 July; hopefully MS will issue another coupon before 7 RTM is available for download.
     
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    What? There was a $100 off deal? Crap, I didn't see that. So it was $250 for a year for new subscribers? I would have bit right away then.
     
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    Think that's a good deal? Around March of every year, MS drops the price to $99. I Google for "technet plus promotion code" at least once a day, looking for the next good deal. I hope MS dangles another $100 coupon soon!