new games still on xp?

Hi, i wonder if new games will still work with xp? like the new gta or the new wolfenstein (requirements only say vista & w7 so i wonder if xp will also work?). And if wolfenstein starts not showing xp under supporter OS´s which games will follow? Cause my plans were to dual boot linux & xp (only gameing). This would be nice since both boots up in 20secs.. and vista needs 1min and 20secs.

Thanks

@edit: okay so someone told me xp isnt supported but i just read the requirments on my own and it is
still i wonder if xp will be supported in the future? what do u guys think?

 

xp is so popular and so many people still have it that it will indeed be supported by the games industries for many years to come. i dont think dx10-only games will be something we have to watch out for in the near future. thats my unprofessional view of things

 

It should be supported for a while longer - Microsoft will be giving XP extended support (security only) until 2014, so I would imagine that many/most developers will continue to support it; in particular because it still has the reputation of being a better gaming OS than _Vista (whether or not that is in fact the case - and this is not the time or place to debate that point).

 

For the next 2-4 years, yes new games will be supported on XP but don't expect ALL the new games to work on it. XP only supports up to DirectX9 unfortunately, whereas Vista and Windows 7 will get DirectX10 as well as DirectX11 in the future.

 

Sure, smart way for game sellers to go is to further support XP with offers of patches to take advantages of the newer OS. Or you will experience with some settings to be turned off when running with XP.

cheers ...

 

thought there is some way to get dx10 on xp?

 

Wishful thinking? ...

cheers ...

 

About the only way I've heard of is .... upgrade to _Vista.

 

You are scaring peoples off...

cheers ...

 

The only game I know of that requires Vista is Halo 2 (also XBox, of course), which was just because Microsoft wanted to get people to buy Vista. As for games requiring Vista in the future, I doubt it will be particularly soon. Even on Steam, 70% of users cannot run DX 10, and the market as a whole is probably less able to run DX 10 than the (relatively) gamer-heavy and technology-heavy Steam userbase. And that's a lot of the market to lose out on entirely. I'd be surprised if there were games that had a Vista/DX10 minimum before 2011, really.

Surprising pattern on the Steam hardware survey now that I look at the details. Vista is down 0.02% points for the month, and XP up 1.13% points. Maybe most of Win7's 0.96% point loss was people switching back to XP, but it's intersting nonetheless. And moreover, XP 64-bit has been gaining steadily all year. My guess would be that's mostly XP 32-bit users upgrading to a new machine, wanting 64-bit, but not wanting Vista. I wouldn't be opposed to going that route myself if I had a need for that much RAM.

There's a couple of DX 10 on XP attepts out there. The better known one in the States, but one that is no longer in development, is the Alky Project. I have not tried it, due to its unsupported status. However, there is a Russian team that apparently is still in development on DX on XP - they had said last fall they were finished for awhile, but released a new version last month. You can take a look at their site and try it out if you want. I tried it last fall, but couldn't get it to work on my only DX10 game (Company of Heroes), though dxdiag did report DX10. It's definitely still in experimental stages, but it does appear to have made some progress. The only downsides I've encountered are that there's not much about it in English, and that some of its hacks cause virus scanners to go off. As far as I can tell it doesn't have any malicious code in it and it merely does "unsafe" things to achieve the DX10 effect (I never noticed any ill effects, at least), but the risk is worth mentioning.

 

Oh but I'm good at that, ain't I?

 

New consumer machines won't be available for purchase with XP any more except for some netbooks. And sales of XP from Microsoft to vendors, I believe has been terminated except for open or volume licensing to corporations for those that already had agreements, or are expanding and aren't ready to convert to Vista yet.

So I'd say support for XP will still be predominant over the next year or so, but I'd say most developers will start to transition to DirectX 11 (skipping 10 altogether) in the near future. More than likely after Windows 7 is released, game developers will have to make the decision where to go, and considering most big game titles have a 2-3 year development cycle, it will be about that long before DirectX 10 or 11 only titles will be on the market.

My guess would be mid-2012 you will start to see DirectX 10/11 titles starting to saturate the market.

 

Oh, I don't know about that - personally, I've still got two retail copies of XP sitting around that haven't been installed on anything yet; if I don't use them, I'm sure I'll be able to find a market for 'em.

 

I have two copies as well. But the fact that XP is an OS that has been around and supported for so long will give it legs for the hard core or for compatability. But in a few years when all the machines that sold for the last couple of years had Vista, and over the next 2-3 with Vista or 7, means that most of the market will be using Vista or Windows 7.

I think it would be a mistake to develop for a market with an OS gone 5 years unavailable to the masses for the most part.

 

It all depends on how difficult it is to change any particular game so that it's compatible with both XP and _Vista, and that's probably something that depends on each particular game.

 

Microsoft tried to cram Vista down people's throats with games like Halo 2 and Shadowrun, but their plan back-fired and almost nobody wound up buying the games. You can get an XP patch for Halo 2 though.

 

I didn't like how MS tried to cram Vista down people's throats either, especially since hardware and drivers just weren't ready yet. I think now, after several years, the hardware and drivers, and user base have matured enough that it would make more sense to release for versions later than DirectX 9.

I see XP only on hard core geeks machines or corporations in the next few years. By 2012 90% of gaming capable PC's (at least for newest games) will have Vista or Seven installed, if not mainly for the fact that the machines came preconfigured with it.