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    unn wow have any of you read google's eula??

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by zfactor, Dec 14, 2008.

  1. zfactor

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    this is taken from another web site about why he uninstalled chrome and wow im not sure what to think:

    "Like every early adopter I was eager to try out Google Chrome. So I basically clicked download and install with out reading the finer legal mumbo jumbo. Then Mike Dopp on Twitter pointed me to this blog post by Joe Levi showing the actual text of the EULA:

    … By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. … You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

    Whoa. Wait, what? You mean if I type something into the browser like this blog post then Google owns it?!? Well not quite but they get to use what you write. Further research on attorney David Loschiavo’s site where he clarifies:

    11.1 clearly states that you keep all your rights to everything passing through Chrome. But, Google does get permission to use anything you do pass through Chrome. The end part of 11.1 limits that permission to the scope of promotional reasons, but then 11.2 and 11.3 extend that (or “clarify,” take your pick) to mean that as long as Google or one of Google’s affiliates use your IP in connection with Chrome, they can do whatever they want.

    Sorry Google. Uninstalling for now.

    On the plus side, others have pointed this out and Google’s Matt Cutts has a post up saying he has spoken with the legal team at Google and they are worked to fix the EULA. As of late today, Google has updated the EULA. There is only one paragraph to section 11 now:

    11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services."


    Before you reinstall Google’s Chrome, take a look in your Task Scheduler. Even though you uninstall Chrome, it will leave executable code (googleupdatemanager.exe) installed and it is scheduled to run every time you stop doing things for ten minutes.
    You must reboot your computer and move fast in order to remove Google’s program. I don’t have time to hack the code or use a packet program to find out just what it sends back to Google.
     
  2. Hiker

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    If you read NBR's TOS they very well may own it. I guess it's a fight between them for your words.
     
  3. zfactor

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    make sure to download the full installer if you use chrome imo it does not contain the update.exe that the online version does. the update.exe runs every 10 min of being idle and also at startup using cpu resources..
     
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    lol i was just very suprised at that eula...
     
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    i think they have something similar for theier google docs EULA
     
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    And probably Picasa too.

    I've found one thing in Chrome I don't like is that it doesn't remember your settings for larger fonts or scroll forward. I can set any forum, etc in Firefox and when i come back it's the same. Not so in Chrome.
     
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    yes that is another annoyance as well
     
  8. zfactor

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    as much as i like it i think ill wait till more things get sorted out with it. i can say imo for sure its the fastest browser ive used period. smokes even ff3.1 for me..
     
  9. Cin'

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    Very, very interesting...but I guess you take your chances on whatever is done over the net' :eek: lol. ;)


    Cin ;) :)
     
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    How do I uninstall the google update manager?
     
  11. zfactor

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    stop the service first then disable it therm remove it.. what a pain

    im using kmeleon now and wow i like it
     
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    This is very old, they updated their ToS shortly after. This was from when it first came out, no need to get all paranoid.
     
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    I rem. when this issue came to light. It made me keep from installing Chrome and probably will for ever.

    Even with the changed EULA to say they won't take some rights to your content they never came out and disussed removing their "spy code". As they can't use the text I type or anything similar unless they have some way of that text getting back to Google. I understood that to mean they have a part of Google Chrome that sends everything I do back to Google.

    That doesn't surprise me because Google makes its money off of that very foundation. They sell everything to advertisers with their major advantage being the wealth of information they amass on each user of their services.

    I know I am in the minority, but I don't use the builk of Google's services for this very reason...
     
  14. qhn

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    This will not stop Google Chrome from updating and talking behind one's back.

    To disable Google Chrome backdoor update:
    . accessories -> system programs-> scheduled task
    . delete this entry, and you will no longer have a sneaker behind your back

    cheers ...