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    win 7 aero slow?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Fender23, Aug 13, 2009.

  1. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

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    Disabling powermizer doesn't make any change in the choppy window animation.
     
  2. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

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    I tested it now and can say for sure that the choppy animation is not related to Nvidia powermizer setting.
     
  3. deeastman

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    Yes, 8400M GS

    I have a very slight stutter with W7 Pro 64bit opening windows. It wasn't apparent with Vista 32bit. I don't play games so I cannot comment there.

    Not really objectionable but I would like to make it go away if it didn't create any heat problems, affect batt life, or other issues.
     
  4. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Assuming you used my software, as the registry hack and other tool works only on SOME nVidia solution with, now old, drivers. Did you restart your computer? You need to restart your computer to apply changes.

    Remember that right now, we are focusing that you have a smooth animation while the system is plug-in.
    Also, which driver version do you have? Make sure they are from Nvidia website.
     
  5. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well, it can't be it on non-nvidia based systems, no? :)
     
  6. mystery905

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    Which method/program did you use, and what version of Nvidia drivers are you using?
     
  7. DarkSilver

    DarkSilver MSI Afterburner

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    I experienced this problem while I am on Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit.
    The culprits behind are 2 things or can be solved using either 1 of it.
    Disable PowerMizer.
    Another 1, I forgot, but it is related to Windows Processes/Services. If not mistaken, disabling that service will fix the problem.

    After moving to 64bit OSes(Vista and 7), I don't have this problem already.
     
  8. coolguy

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    I used the NVGPU pro software to disable powermizer when the system is plugged in. I am using 186.91 driver from MS update catalog.
     
  9. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

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    I restarted to apply the change. I don't have any registry entries related to powermizer. I am using Nvidia 186.91 driver from MS update catalog. As Nvidia's official driver doesn't support (I can mod the inf) Vaio notebook GPU's.
     
  10. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Can you try and record what you see? (Video or desktop recording software like Camtasia)
    You can e-mail it to me at support [at] nvgpupro [dot] com, and I'll publish it for all on my server, or put it on youtube.

    Download Everest found here ( http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?ps=UE&lang=en&page=48), it's trial veriosn, but it's good enough for our purpose. While your system is plug-in, execute the program and go on the side column tree: "Computer" > "Overclock". Scroll all the way down. You will notice that this page only give you system performance information. Scroll all the way down to GPU, and can you please say what are the GPU speed being reported. I want to see if NvGPUPro worked or not for you.

    NvGPUPro is suppose to support these moded inf files. The registry entries should be in if you used my software. If the entries are not there, then the tool will show that the feature (powerMizer) is disabled, and you will need to click on the "override" button first, where it detects your GPU and driver version and adds the appropriate registry entries without breaking anything. Once teh feature has been overrides, you can switch PowerMizer to the behavior you want.

    I have the same drivers on my laptop as yours, and your GPU has been tested with my software. I have 13 Nvidia graphic cards form all different architectures, where my software has been tested to work.
     
  11. mystery905

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    I use 186.81 drivers off Nvidia web-site, and Powermizer Switch program, and disabling powermizer while on AC eliminates the stuttery Aero. The Powermizer registry entries aren't created for this version, but Powermizer Switch will create them for you.
     
  12. Wolf04

    Wolf04 Sony Fanatic

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    I know this mainly applies to people with Nvidia cards but what about ATI? Anyone experiencing this "glitch" in 7 with ATI cards? Something I'd really want to know before upgrading my laptop to 7.
     
  13. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

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    Your program works. I could see the clocks running at full speeds without downclocking in Everest Software. But the choppy window opening/ closing issue remains. It has improved a bit. Anyway I will disable window animation to make opening/ closing snappier. Thanks for helping me.
     
  14. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    oh well. :/
    Glad my software works at least, and thanks for testing and confirming it works :)
     
  15. PJ@y-Z

    PJ@y-Z Notebook Evangelist

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    What about 3D Flip?
    Have you played any Blu-ray content too?
     
  16. kettyo

    kettyo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Aero in the current state of Win7 is buggy and causing system sync problems in other programs too like video encoding so i strongly suggest anyone with Win7 to turn aero off until the bug is fixed. Everybody has the issue just people who don't come from Vista or didn't use aero in Vista won't notice it :)
     
  17. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    I used Vista since beta1, and used as main OS since, and I don't have this problem. It's no Win7 bug. And I CERTAINLY have no problem with my Videos.
    I think either your system is not powerful enough or it's a driver related problem.
     
  18. illmatic8

    illmatic8 Notebook Consultant

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    It's there, you just don't see it. Trust me, you're not special, everyone has this issue. It's subtle, so some people see it, while others don't.
     
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    Wolf04 Sony Fanatic

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    I know this shouldn't be that big of an issue but I love Vista's smooth Aero animations and I'm not a big fan of 7's "pop-up" sort of animation. I actually thought the reason for the pop-up was that my system was not powerful enough but it seems it's common and a design choice by Microsoft in order to reduce system resources.
     
  20. SomeFormOFhuman

    SomeFormOFhuman has the dumbest username.

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    For *my* case, I disabled powermizer and it was all smooth. Yes, I did noticed a certain lag here and there, especially Aero winflip. It happened to both of my laptops below and whatever driver I used, be it from Nvidia or LV2G. (see sig)

    This is due to the fact that the cards are downclocked to reduce heat and save power; thus rendering 3D performance slower.

    I just went straight to the registry and disabled it, and the cards now run at stock speeds and Win Aero is smooth. Runs slightly warmer @ 51*C idling but who cares, they're my machines and they run cool as ice @ 68*C max on Crysis for 4 hours.

    That's for my case. And I think it may work for everyone else too. I had tested it on lower end cards such as the 9400M GS and the G 105M, and they run stellar after the tweak is done. Just watch the heat.
     
  21. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    That is what I have been saying. In my case, I disable PowerMizer on my laptop to a mode so that it's only disabled when I am plug-in, so that I don't compromise my battery life.

    But, it seams that what is being talked about is something different. My guess, is that they see that Win7 animation between 2 different window states is not as detailed as Vista's. I guess they do enjoy a full motion picture of 2 hours between a window full and closed (or minimized), like it was close to in Vista and like it is in Mac OS X. Personally I love Win7 animation, you have it and it's to the point.
     
  22. coolguy

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    Vista's window animation is any day better than Windows 7's choppy one. Even after disabling the Powermizer, the window animation in Win 7 is still choppy, not as smooth as Vista's.
     
  23. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    Thank God my screen doesn't look a flipbook.
     
  24. mystery905

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    nope.....mine is silky smooth under w7 x64 with powermizer disabled.
     
  25. coolguy

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    Are you using RTM Win 7? I am still in RC. I don't know if anything changed in RTM.
     
  26. mystery905

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    I'm on RTM.
     
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    jackstuard Newbie

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    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    Fender23 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi all, is this problem with aero fixed in official win 7???? i dont have time right now to test it, just asking if any of you installed new win 7 official and spotted this same issue.. thanks
     
  30. 3ddfreak

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    @GoodBytes: I completely agree with you. Aero animation shouldn't be a movie like on a macbook. And thank you for your solution on the slow graphics issue. Nv GPU Pro is a great tool for getting smooth graphics with a Nvidea GPU! Weird thing is that on Vista powermizer was disabled automaticly when using my power-adapter while it isn't when using W7. Might be a vaio-z issue because vaio develops its own drivers for this model because of the hybrid graphics. Anyway, thx for the solution.
     
  31. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    No, I must thank you for using and enjoying my software! :D
    I am glad that my software helped you.
     
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