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    win 7 rtm has been leaked!!! final version actual rtm

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by zfactor, Jul 12, 2009.

  1. KonstantinDK

    KonstantinDK Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey, what a real difference between retail and oem dvds?
     
  2. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    The disks themselves are the same (I'm assuming you're talking about the OEM disks you can purchase; not the OEM disks that come with a new computer). The reason why retail is more expensive than OEM is because you're paying for Microsoft support (you get no support for purchasing an OEM disk) and you pay for the fancy-schmancy packaging.
     
  3. predatorramboxxx

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    its just the license key i believe
     
  4. KonstantinDK

    KonstantinDK Notebook Evangelist

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    Plus OEM you technically only get an install on a single PC. Once activated, that's the PC where it resides forever and ever. Whereas retail you can uninstall, and move it to another PC if desired.
     
  6. TheAtreidesHawk

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    Okay so I have the RTM Version on my laptop right now...and I have only 2 concerns.

    1) It's only good for 31 days right? What keys can I use to make it last longer? At least till the full official version comes out (which I have preordered on Amazon). Are there any available yet? I heard someone say that if you use the Beta/RC keys it somehow changes the RTM version or makes it think it's not RTM...is that true?

    2) When I formatted the hard drive that had the RC version of Windows 7 and I rebooted my computer it still went to the black screen that asks if I want to start up either "Windows 7" or "Vista"?

    How can I totally remove Windows 7 from my 2nd hard drive so that my computer's BIOS or w/e doesn't go to the initial black screen thinking that I've got 2 versions of Windows on there?

    My goal of course is to have the 2nd hard drive empty and to install Windows 7 on the 1st/Main Hard Drive.
     
  7. predatorramboxxx

    predatorramboxxx Notebook Deity

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    The only keys that will work will be the msdn or technet keys. There is like a crack or patch that allows you to use your beta/rc keys but will only last to when the beta expires. I am sure MS will release an update that will fix this hack. Apparently today on engadget there was a leak of oem keys and now its fully hacked.
    Your best bet is to wait for like what 3ish months. Dont go down the illegal road just wait.
     
  8. TheAtreidesHawk

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    I don't plan on going the illegal route...like I said I've got it preordered. I just want to be able to get used to Windows 7 until the official version I bought on Amazon is shipped and arrives here.

    I decided to go with Windows 7 Home Premium...but I may go up to Professional. Still deciding...
     
  9. ATC

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    Can't you just rearm the 30 days grace period? I think you can do it three times, giving you a total of 120 days which will cover you till October.
     
  10. predatorramboxxx

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    oh yeah hes right you can do that..
     
  11. zfactor

    zfactor Mastershake

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    technically yes but reality no. if the system dies and you rebuild it or have to move to a newer system you can call ms and explain that and they will allow you to re activate even a oem copy i have to do this a lot for customers if say the mobo dies. technically the install is tied to that mobo but mobo's dont last forever and some not even 6 months.. ms is almost always okay with this if you call and simply say my mobo died and i had to reinstall it on the repaired system they have never once in all my years ever denied that
     
  12. TheAtreidesHawk

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    That sounds perfect but forgive me I'm not familiar with the term "rearm" and how exactly you do it...

    PM if you could enlighten me on the process. Cuz it sounds like exactly what I need to do. Thanks pred though for trying to help.

    Can anyone answer this question. Right now I have Home Premium pre ordered. I was just wondering however....IF I bought Windows 7 Ultimate...on how many PCs would I be able to install it on?

    EDIT: Thanks predator for Problem 1!
     
  13. HTWingNut

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    I know that, as I have done it. But just FYI that MS has the right to deny you the request.

    Technically, it's meant more for PC re-sellers than anything else. PC enthusiasts usually get the benefit of the doubt.

    I have an OEM license that I've transitioned to my "third" PC with it no problems. The difference I believe, and not sure if they can see this, is that my PC is constantly evolving. It's never really a fully NEW PC. It's always got more "older" parts than new, except for my "third" iteration of more new than old.
     
  14. ATC

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    You have to make sure to do it (rearm) within the 30 days, not wait till 30's up otherwise it's too late and it locks down.

    Run Command Prompt (as Admin) and type cd C:\Windows\system32. Then type cscript slmgr.vbs - rearm and then Enter. It usually takes a few seconds so give it some time but you should then get the message that Windows has successfully ran the command. Reboot and done.

    I posted this here instead of PM in case someone else wants to know.
     
  15. RangerXML

    RangerXML Army of None [TRH]

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    Ladies and Gentle folks, 7 days and counting till Windows 7 RTM becomes available to the public (not general).
     
  16. HTWingNut

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    I know! Can someone add a javascript or other countdown timer to this forum.

    I'm geared up and ready to go! Have my WHS purring along nicely in case disaster strikes!

    I just don't look forward to installing all my darn games again.
     
  17. RangerXML

    RangerXML Army of None [TRH]

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    Can't find any gadgets for the msdn/technet release. I found one for the Oct. 22 release, but I can't figure out the code to edit the release date.
     
  18. ATC

    ATC Notebook Deity

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    Will it be open for download to TechNet members right after midnight (Wednesday night-Thursday morning)? I want to set a reminder on my berry. :p
     
  19. Orlbuckeye

    Orlbuckeye Notebook Evangelist

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    It's supposed to be on Technet and MSDN on August 8th.
     
  20. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    No, August 6
     
  21. kegobeer

    kegobeer 1 hr late but moving fast

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    I posted "last two weeks of July" long before Microsoft released the date. And, it's August 6, according to press releases and the last email I got from Technet.
     
  22. st0nedpenguin

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    loled

    Whole lotta people running recently "activated" copies of W7 looking a little worried right now.
     
  23. KonstantinDK

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    lol It's good i didn't use any hacks on the RTM and decided to wait till october 22.
     
  24. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    I'm actually dreading the release...a new OS release means a) I have to spend a whole day reinstalling my computer and all its apps. b) floods of calls from users who mess up their reinstalls.
     
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    I didn't have time to read the whole thread so sorry if this has been asked before. If we managed to acquire a copy of the RTM can we use that with our Vista key to do a full clean install of W7? Microsoft won't blacklist our key or anything will they? I have the upgrade on pre-order but it would be nice if I could install it now...
     
  26. KonstantinDK

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=398216
    Check this thread. And it has less pages ;)
     
  27. zfactor

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    version has now been changed to:

    7600.16399.x86fre.win7_gdr.090722-1835 for x86 and

    7600.16399.x64fre.win7_gdr.090722-1835 for x64.

    if you have already installed the leaked rtm these updates will soon be available via windows update or standalone downloads from ms (or other places) i can post a rapidshare link if i am allowed to do so for the updates only NOT the whole rtm. i will ask if that is okay.
     
  28. S.SubZero

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    Sarcastic answer: "Sure, Vista keys will activate Windows 7! Microsoft is giving Window 7 away FREE to all Vista users! FREE WINDOWS! Woohoo! Too bad XP suckas!"

    Real answer: No. Windows 7 has it's own keys which will not be Vista keys. It's a different OS. Just because you have Vista doesn't give you a free license to use Windows 7. You're still expected to buy it, either in a retail box, or OEM with a computer or some hardware.
     
  29. c-mattic

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    wait so there is a new rtm???
     
  31. Fountainhead

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    Well, technically there is one RTM...the version that's released to manufacturing and will appear in retail boxes. All of theses "other" RTM's are just builds that may have been RTM candidates but for whatever reason had to be changed. Hence, they're not the RTM. Is the latest leaked build the RTM? Who knows? Until MSDN and Technet officially release theirs on Thursday it's just speculation. It might change again tomorrow.
     
  32. predatorramboxxx

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    ok so just wait to this Thursday on msdn to see if the build number changed since all the rest of the rtms were leaked builds and arent they doing it cause of the leaked oem keys and there black listing it now.
     
  33. zfactor

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    no you misundertood. there are OFFICIAL updates that when applied to the rtm version change the final build numbers it is NOT a whole new build just updates that get applied to the already rtm version
     
  34. predatorramboxxx

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    oooh ok that makes a lot of sense. so the new updates will change the build numbers and stop those hacks??
     
  35. zfactor

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    so they say at this point. but with those guys its always a game..
     
  36. predatorramboxxx

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    ahh yeah...it will be 24hrs or less then they hack it
     
  37. ATC

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    Would TechNet/MSDN get updated RTMs on Aug 6th or will the updates have to be applied by the users?
     
  38. Fountainhead

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    We're splitting hairs and applying a different definition to what constitutes the RTM. In my mind, the official RTM is the final version that goes to manufacturing and gets pressed to disc. If these prior builds that everyone refers to as RTM aren't the same builds that are going to be pressed to disc, then they're not the official RTM by my definition. They're just RTM candidates that may or may not be changed prior to release.
     
  39. zfactor

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    the updates i spoke about were given to the oem's to be slipstreamed into the final pressed discs.
     
  40. ATC

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    Will they be slipstreamed into the RTM we're getting on the 6th? (TechNet)
     
  41. kegobeer

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    Probably. If not, any updates will be installed the first time you visit WU.
     
  42. zfactor

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    from my source, they should be. but as keg said if not you will get them the first time you update
     
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    So, the RTM I buy for my T61p can only be used for Lenovo computers?
     
  44. kegobeer

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    You will not get an RTM version - you will get an OEM copy, just like you do when you buy a laptop from Dell, IBM, etc. It is for use on the original computer only, as is all OEM software. If you subscribe to Technet/MSDN, you will have access to the RTM version and then, in October, the retail version.
     
  45. zfactor

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    correct rtm mean it is released to manufactures to edit and modify as they need to to add logo'd and oem lic info etc. your copy will be "oem" so that means it is the same as rtm with the added things lenovo will change edit or add to the version so like in control panel it will show the lenovo logo's etc...
     
  46. Morizche

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    I don't think zephyrus meant the copy that will come on the computer or as a free upgrade. Looking at the review date from the signature, it is more than a month before the free upgrade program started, so I'm assuming that zephyrus meant a retail/upgrade disc.

    Now that I have scanned the most recent threads.
    This>>> also... http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=405209

    I like how you all ju.., no, let's say bounded, to conclusions.... :rolleyes:
     
  47. predatorramboxxx

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    so the rtm version will always work and never have any problems that is if you have a valid key from msdn
     
  48. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    yes.......
     
  49. Morizche

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    XP Mode RC available on windowsteamblog

     
  50. zfactor

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    there are now a couple more updates as well ill post more info asap im sitting in the hospital all night with a family issue. ill upload them in the morning for everyone running the rtm or oem
     
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