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    windows 7 problem with gaming

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Espada, Sep 8, 2009.

  1. Espada

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    I recently just put windows 7 professional rtm 64bit on my laptop
    when i would either play half life and half life 2 games for like a minute or sometimes a few seconds my computer freezes up and crashes.

    i have 2gb of ram ddr2 800mhz
    cpu t9600
    9600mgt 512mb ddr3
    resolution is 1680x1050

    i have tried everything it would always get a blue screen and uninstall itunes i thought that was the problem but no.. i even put a new batch of arctic silver on both the gpu and cpu.. i can just surf and do notes on word i just cant do any gaming for some reason does anyone have the same problem or anyway to fix it?
     
  2. Amnesiac

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    Try updating your drivers.
     
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    Yeah, it could be anything. Drivers are always likely the biggest culprit transitioning between OSes. But it could be anything. Make sure it isn't hardware also.
     
  4. Amnesiac

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    It could also be a heat problem. Download HWMonitor and tell us your temperatures after playing if possible, or tell us the temperatures when doing something under heavy load if it isn't possible to do it with a game.
     
  5. Espada

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    well it might be the heating problem the gpu jumps from 41C to 71C after just 2 minutes of playing and i updated all the drivers.. the cpu jumps from 27C to 58C ima keep playing to see if its that.
     
  6. Espada

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    welll after another minute my comp decided to freeze and give me the bsod!!!! if it is heating problem what should i do i already put a new batch of thermal paste of both the gpu and cpu..
     
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    New thermal paste? And it still doesn't work? Hmm, sounds like an Acer, no offence to Acer fans here, but I've come across a lot of people who have had heat problems with their Acers.

    I'm inclined to believe that it isn't heating, as it isn't getting as hot as the Asus G series do. However, it may be that your laptop has a lower threshold for heat.

    Have you tried updating your drivers yet? It may be that you are getting a worse version of "nvlddmkm has stopped responding and successfully recovered".

    Also, if it isn't too much trouble, could you post the exact error code in the bluescreen?
     
  8. Espada

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    windows 7 puts i installed all drivers and they are up to date....
     
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    Have you tried updating the NVIDIA drivers though? Even though you got it through Windows Update it doesn't mean you got the required driver for gaming.
     
  10. Espada

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    yes i made sure i updated my video drivers from nvidia site.
     
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    This is bound to happen a new OS is going to have some compatibility issues with older stuff, but the move to Win 7 should not be too bad since it seems to work with most Vista stuff.

    I think the problem with a lot of games right now is incompatibility with punkbuster that I do not think was resolved yet.

    However HL2 doesnt use that does it? I forget.
     
  12. Espada

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    no bf2 has punkbuster not halflife 2
     
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    Have you had either Vista or XP on there previously? Did it run badly like that on your previous OS?
     
  14. Espada

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    had vista and no vista ran ok on it.
     
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    Hmm, that's pretty unusual. I'm sorry, but I really can't think of why that would be happening? Is there any background processes, like an Antivirus, or another thing running, causing your computer to lock up?
     
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    I have got the best performance and quality with Win7. Check your drivers and stop all the processes that are eating up your processor.
     
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    Really weird. I got Windows 7 Pro too, and it runs really great.

    You could roll back to Windows Vista and wait a couple of months and then switch back again, because Windows 7 is still in a kind of a beta.
     
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    Not really. RTM is basically the release before the release to the public. The RTM is the Release To Manufacturers, so it's not really in a beta stage anymore.

    Anyway, try stress testing your computer and see if it BSOD's or freezes up or anything.
     
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    Yeah, sorry, but i'ts not released yet in the public, and since it's not released, it's because they need to make updates to make it more stable.
     
  21. Espada

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    ive tried a stress test before on my cpu and it would give me an error message.. or the comp would freeze..
     
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    Personally I've had issues with all Half Life 2 based games on Windows 7 x64, I mean they work, but will occasionally crash if you alt-tab or switch from full screen to windowed modes and at other times aswell.
     
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    yup i just have to wait until actual windows 7 drivers come out and maybe half life will make it more compatiable with windows 7 when that happens.. well for right now im having a hardware problem with my computer so this is minor compared to it.
     
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    If you've only got 2GB of memory, isn't that the main issue? I have 4GB and a 256MB 8600M GS Card and can run games fine on x64.
     
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    256MB 8600M GT. Memory on video cards is always something like 128MB, 256MB, 512MB, or 1024MB or upwards. Except for the few rare cases where the 8800 GTS had either 320MB or 640MB, and the 8800 GTX having 768MB (512MB + 256MB). And the GTX 260 having 896MB and the GTX 295 having 1792MB.

    However, for the OP, you may just have to wait for some updates. I don't think it's a RAM problem, as he meets the minimum, but it's possible if you have a 64 bit OS.
     
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    2GB is only a bottle neck in very very few games.
     
  27. UserofFZ21Z

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    Probably not in a 32bit system....

    If the memory he's got is required to run the actual operating system, is it any surprise they have a problem when they also try to run a game? I'm sure if I took 2GB out of my system and tried to play Fallout 3 it would be noticeable, just as if they added another 2 they would see a vast improvment.
     
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    What, so you're saying that if you add 2GB to your current 4GB, to make it 6GB, you would see an improvement? That's not true, for most games, once you get past 2GB you will hardly notice a difference, unless it's a game like Crysis, or GTA IV. If you took away 2GB from 4GB, then maybe you will notice it slightly, but the OP meets the minimum requirements. I'm pretty sure his RAM isn't the problem unless...

    What is the error code that you are getting in the BSOD?
     
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    Using that logic upgrading memory would have no effect.

    Exactly, "minimum" requirements to run the O.S, not the O.S plus memory intensive software?
     
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    Sorry, I just noticed that you said if THEY put in another 2GB it would help. Yes, probably, but minimally.

    Hmm, it's possible, but for now, I'd like to know the error code of this BSOD. It may be that he has bad RAM or a failing HDD.
     
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    Win 7 works really cool, fast and efficient.
     
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    Yeah, it does.