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    x64 Windows 7 vs XP?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by d4mi3n, Feb 22, 2009.

  1. d4mi3n

    d4mi3n Notebook Geek

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    I was one of the people hyping windows 7 and decided to leave my xp partiton to partake in all of the 7 hype. I wasnt disapointed, 7 ran faster and more responsive than Vista ever was, and it was even quicker than xp, but i seem to be noticing my performance in games being almost halved. In tf2 where i would be getting 60fps, i was barely pushing 30, even with fps configs.

    Would switching over to a 64bit version of 7 give me any performance back? or should i go back to xp? and would going to 64bit xp instead of 32bit give me any added performance? All the things i searched on 64bit xp benches and such were dated back to 2005...

    Specs in my Signature

    Thanks
     
  2. bridge86

    bridge86 Notebook Consultant

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    Since you only have 2GB of RAM switching over to x64 Windows 7 will not make a difference. The slowdown is most likely due to the the graphics card drivers for Windows 7. Some of the drivers, like the one for the Intel 4500 integrated on my laptop are incomplete and have problems. If updated drivers do not exist for Windows 7, switching back to Windows XP is the only way you are going to get your frames back.
     
  3. one4spl

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    Most Vista drivers work in Windows 7.

    I've used all the Dell stuff for my E6500 in Windows 7 x64, and the 185.2 nVidia driver from laptopvideo2go. No drama at all.

    The only thing that s me is that Chrome is broken on x64 Win7.
     
  4. haniunited

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    Based on your system specs, I would not say so, there is no miraculous magical trick that is hidden in 64 bit versions of later windows releases.

    It's just that it has more potential to power faster systems, and based on the specs I see in your signature, you are well below any need for 64.

    hope that helps.
     
  5. d4mi3n

    d4mi3n Notebook Geek

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    Yea i have played with various catalyst/driver setups on w7, so if i was wanting more performance my best bet would be going back to 32bit xp? or would a 64bit xp give me more performance? thanks for the help :)
     
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    I am a completely ignorant on the subject so do I understand correctly that 64bit is heavier than 32bit?
     
  7. haniunited

    haniunited Notebook Consultant

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    No, it's more or less the same but 64 is for "the future", hence all these 64 processors popping up lately.

    64 has more potential (example 32 bit limited to 3gb RAM (for those who are judging i know it's not really like that :)) whilst 64 can easily have 4 or even 8gb ram) and will be the standard come the next few years.
     
  8. bridge86

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    If you do not have at least 3GB of RAM going 64-bit will likely cause more problems it will solve. XP x64 does not have very good compatibility at all with certain programs and hardware configurations. Also, the 64-bit OS is just as "heavy" as the same OS in 32-bit.
     
  9. d4mi3n

    d4mi3n Notebook Geek

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    I was under the impression that 64bit was faster/used ram better, thanks guys! im going back to xp in a bit... i will miss that superbar...
     
  10. gary_hendricks

    gary_hendricks Notebook Evangelist

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    that is when you go above 4GB ram.
     
  11. S.SubZero

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    "Heavier" is not a good word. A 64-bit OS has some more overhead since there's more housekeeping and resource allotment stuff to deal with. The trick is for most people running 64-bit OS's, they already have a beefy enough system that this overhead is marginal and unnoticed.

    The same thing already happened when we transitioned frm 16-bit to 32-bit OS's. OMG SO MUCH MORE RAM USED ARGH! We got over it. Really. We can get over it again.

    For the OP, that's strange you are having so much trouble. I ran Vista x64 on my E1705, and I didn't notice any real framerate problems in anything, though I only played a couple of games that weren't particularly fast-paced. I think I would have noticed "half" the framerate I was expecting though. I have Win7 x64 beta loaded on my E1705 now, maybe I'll run a couple of benchmarks.
     
  12. qhn

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    Gaming performance will not be improved with W7, 32bits or 64bits. What you have is what you get at the moment, until games take W7 in consideration.

    cheers ...
     
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    Which features of the Windows 7 taskbar in particular did you like? There are third party programs that allow you to get some of those features in XP, such as reordering of the taskbar or tab previews. Jump lists I haven't seen an implementation of yet.
     
  14. d4mi3n

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    I loved the whole thing, the app instance grouping and the non-fail quick launch and the aero peak
     
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    totally agree.

    same thing happened with XP and 98.