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E6410 Windows Media Player 11 DVD Playback Garbled

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by scootskd, Jul 21, 2010.

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  1. scootskd

    scootskd Notebook Enthusiast

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    I apologize for the incorrect title. I believe Windows Media Player 12 ships with Windows 7. Not 11. Any other new E6410 owners out there (with the Nvidia NVS 3100 discrete video) tried playing a DVD using Windows Media Player 12? I've tried numerous times with numerous DVD's and all produce the same result: completely garbled video. Interestingly enough if I try playing the same DVD's using the DVD player software Dell pre-installed, "Power DVD DX", the movies play just fine. Does Windows Media Player 12 not come with the correct DVD codecs?
     
  2. linuxwanabe

    linuxwanabe Notebook Evangelist

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    Easy answer: Don't use Microsoft Media Player! I can think of numerous Open Source alternatives, all of which are superior.
     
  3. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Don't listen to Linuxwanabe.

    Windows Media Player 12 is a fantastic player, and features excellent codecs.
    The problem is that PowerDVD creates a conflict with Windows built-in DVD encoder. You don't need PowerDVD as Windows not only has a what you need to play DVD's but also in 64-bit flavor providing increase performance and reduction in power consumption.

    If, hopefully, PowerDVD did not destroy WMP, it should work fine after you uninstalled it and restart your computer. If the problem persist, I can show you how to re-install Windows Media Player 12, without re-installing your system. It's quiet easy actually.

    On your way, ensure that you have the latest graphic driver.

    I have an idea.. how about saying intelligent and constructive things.. and look it's Open Source! Just the way you like it.
     
  4. linuxwanabe

    linuxwanabe Notebook Evangelist

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    Windows Media Player has very poor codec and format support. It stutters, it hogs resources and it tends to lock-up. Basically, it's the worst media player imaginable. Most experienced users stopped using Windows Media Player on a routine basis several generations ago.

    My advice is sound. For even simple DVD playback, no one, and I do mean no one, should use Windows Media Player.

    It comes as a shock to many people when they are advised to stop using various default Microsoft programs, but it tends to be sound advice.

    Of course, it never ceases to amaze me that a majority of people still use Internet Explorer on a daily basis, despite all of the admonitions.
     
  5. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Welcome to 2010.. things changed. When you'll get this in your head, I think I'll open a champagne bottle.

    By no one you mean YOU, right?
    You still live in Windows 2000/XP times, where you did not have any DVD codec built-in Windows.

    As a Firefox user, I must say that Internet Explorer 8 is a very good web browser. Not the best, but none the less it follows the standards fairly well, and is decently fast.


    Just because a company makes a bad product, it doesn't means they can't make one better. Microsoft past trough large restructuring and cleaned up many department (fired quiet a bit of people), a bit before Vista release.
    Microsoft main problem was communication.. I mean look at Vista for instance.. every Windows program has a different interface.. no communication what-so-ever was made. But all this has been fixed, and now what do we have?
    - Most consistent Windows since it's early versions
    - Super fast and responsive
    - Well thought out features and functionality
    - Polished product and sub-products, and much more great things.

    Windows Media Player 12 is THE BEST Windows Media Player every made. FINAL! Better than version the beloved version 6.0. It's also better than many solutions out there. It's fast, 64-bit, does it's job better than any player out there in term of performance, including internet streaming and network streaming video/audio features. All by being very easy to use.

    Internet Explorer while not the fastest and most secure web browser out there, it's still very good, massacring it's predecessor (IE6, and even IE7). IE still has a bit of catch up to do, and IE 9 looks VERY promising. Just because IE 6 was vomit beyond belief, doesn't mean that IE 8 is the case.

    Linuxwanabe, PLEASE try very well a software before commenting. I do.. and I expect the same from others. I don't comments on things I heard or read about, even thought it might be a lot, until I tried it myself. You have to be open.
     
  6. Robin24k

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    I agree with GoodBytes, for the majority of users, Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer works well for their needs. They may not be the best, but for general usage, they are hard to beat. Besides, why have redundant pieces of software installed? I cannot wrap my head around why some people have three or four browsers installed (excluding special cases, such as web designers looking to test compatibility).

    We all have our prejudices and preferences, but do make sure you know what you are talking about and have done your research before sounding like you know everything. Going with stock software won't be a wrong decision, but it may not be the best for everybody.
     
  7. linuxwanabe

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    That is 100% wrong. I'd challenge anyone to find a worse open source media player than Microsoft's own Windows Media Player. It's slow to load, hogs resources, frequently becomes unresponsive....the list goes on and on.

    I'd also venture that even Internet Explorer 8 is an abominably poor browser compared to the various Mozilla based browsers. Again, it's slow to load, hogs resources, frequently becomes unresponsive, not to mention the lousy user interface and history of vulnerabilities.....the list goes on and on.

    Sadly, most PC users are genuinely ignorant of the shortcomings of Microsoft's preloaded software. Of course, for the average desktop PC user, the latest iteration of Ubuntu would likely be less problematic than Windows 7. Notice I used the word "desktop" and not "laptop."

    Different browsers have different strengths, depending on the content you're working with. Moreover, none of the Mozilla browsers are as resource intensive as IE. The bottom lines is that every Mozilla browser is superior to Internet Explorer. The question you should be asking is why Microsoft doesn't allow Windows 7 users to uninstall IE8. Why does IE have to be a component of the operating system?

    In the end, I really do have wonder about the future of Microsoft, as the stock has languished for the better part of decade and the culture of corporate ineptitude has prevailed for so long.


    I've done my research and I have a tremendous amount of personal experience. I can say with complete certainty that if a user is having issue with Windows Media Player, that user should simply stop using Windows Media Player as it is just about the worst media player software that I've ever deal with.

    Similarly, I can state that most intelligent, advanced users abandoned Internet Explorer several generations ago. It is beyond a doubt, a terrible browser, perhaps the worst choice imaginable. IE isn't all that secure, it isn't all that easy to use, it's crap.
     
  8. Robin24k

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    Based on your username, I feel that this is probably going to be a waste of time, but regardless...

    Whether that is true or not, I don't know, but even if it was, does it really matter that much? Unless it's so bad that it gets in the way (which it doesn't), it won't make a difference. And for me, IE works just fine.

    The latest Windows Media Player seems to have gotten pretty good reviews and users do like it, so I can't see how it is the worst. Regardless, the built-in software has one major advantage over everything else: continued support. Microsoft will continue to support it (given that they are still making Windows, which won't change anytime soon), and that is something third party software can't guarantee. Companies come and go, that is just the nature of business.

    There are always going to be critics, and while they aren't wrong, they are just the minority. Nothing can satisfy all, which is why you have the option of other media players and browsers, but a lot of users do choose to use built-in software.
     
  9. linuxwanabe

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    The problem is that individual users, and even IT departments, continue to use IE due to apathy and ignorance. Most IE users are simply using IE because they don't understand the advantages of selective script blocking, which IE lacks.


    Oh please. Microsoft support? What support? Oh yes, they ignore known vulnerabilities and bugs as long as possible. This is precisely why just about every open source media player I've ever used is superior to Windows Media Player. From my own experience, no update has ever corrected the fundamental issues with Windows Media Player. It still loads too slowly, it won't close reliably, it frequently won't respond.....do we really need to point out all of the shortcomings?

    Again, there are still masses of ignorant and inexperienced users who use Windows Media Player. These are the same people who are mystified by the bugs and horrible performance, but choose to stick with Windows Media Player out of apathy and ignorance.
     
  10. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    What's the point... a troll stays a trolls.
    Just leave this conversation Robin24k. I recommend OP to follow what I mentioned, else post again in the hope Linuxwanabe doesn't come in and destroy this nice community, filled with people who are willing to help people.

    So to recap. PowerDVD is most likely corrupting WMP12. You don't need it, as Windows also has DVD (and many more) codec built-in which are excellent. PM me and I'll help you out step by step.

    Or you can listen to Linuxwanabe, and change your OS to Linux.
     
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