M4500 vs m6500 vs XPS 15.

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Originally Posted by ekuns
So share ... what was it?
oh i didnt know anyone would need the info but here it is:

so like anyone else, i wasnt able to oc using nvidia performance utility.

so what i did was i downloaded gpu tool to oc.

at first, they wont let you oc your clock or memory speed. so you have to AT FIRST significantly increase your shader clock. basically, find the max for yo shader clock first. after like 50mhz+ oc in shader clock, you can actually now increase the core clock and the memory clock. you will see how it goes from then.

Seems like people first try to oc the core clock and the mem clock and when they both fail, dont even bother to oc the shader clock. i have the latest drivers i think.

results for 1800m:

665
965
1600 (i know that is a HUGE oc but it works)

with my quad core i7, runnin furmark and prime 95, with stock paste, i get like 76-76 max for gpu and 80-81 max for two of my cores in cpu. so i guess the temps are decent. im going to apply artic 5 soon.

i got 8950 in 3dmark06 with 820qm and 1800m. it was like 19.75% increase from stock clock.

good luck! and share your results

FYI: if your drivers crash due to too high clock, everytime it crashes, you need to restart your computer. as you can see from sensor of gpuz or so, once the driver crashes, the core clock is stuck at 405mhz and so on, until you restart your computer. so it does take a chunk of time.

 

THANKS A TON.. actually .. just for giggles I'm overclocking the 1800M.. I might end up keeping the M4500.. I really like the AntiGlare 1080p screen it offers over what the XPS 15 FHD display offered.. And the 1800M is turning out to be a (significantly) better card at gaming than 435M at stock clocks.. The cooling system is so much more than what I expected .. I might come back posting something completely opposite of this as the M6500 is scheduled for deliverly later today..

Happy Gaming.
Nik

 

btw, can you share your 3D score exclusively without the CPU score.. And the GPU temps pre/post overclock..

thanks again.. ( I just noticed you have a M4500 too )

 

No OC at IDLE:
Around 52-54ish.

one sec for the 3d scores.

 

Wanted to share: I've a 7820 with RGB LED on order now. I can actually compare the 3800M + Glossy vs 7820 + AntiGlare side by side when I get it. Thanks for mentioning the DDR5 stuff on 7820 it got me thinking twice. However, it's on 128 bit bus vs 256 bit. But if it runs cooler that will be a big plus.

 

After having gone through the M4500 and 2 M6500s, a short summary is in order (this is mostly from a gaming perspective):

M4500 620M/FX1800M/1080p AntiGlare Wled display
The M4500 is a good bang for buck machine that can do better than the XPS 15 imo. The FX1800M performed better over the 435M in L4D for me. However, FX1800M is not a DX 11 part and that might be an issue for some, but the overclockability of the FX1800M can't be beat. Another advantage is the pairing of a fast dual core is possible, as opposed to Dell shoving down the 740QM down your throat if you want the GT 435M. I didn't get the chance to compare the XPS 15 FHD B+RG LED to M4500 WLED display directly, so can't comment on that. But being anti-glare is definitely a plus over the XPS 15.

M4500 3D Mark 06 scores comparison.

M6500 Covet 840QM/FX3800M/WUXGA RGB LED Glossy display
Having never ever seen a RGB Display, I was obviously awestruck by the Covet at first. However, certain (darker) parts of the game just wouldn't feel right as compared to the M4500 coupled with the fact the Quadro FX3800M turned out to be a poor overclocker killed the initial excitement pretty fast. The max temps for the GPU hit 85C which left little to no room for overclocking as the system would shutdown itself as soon as things started getting hot (~90C).

M6500 740QM/M7820 /WUXGA AntiGlare RGB Led display
I got the LG panel at first which had some issues and had to be replaced, in lieu, I got the Samsung panel SEC 5443. At first I was a little bummed out, but when I fired up the laptop, the new panel looked to be of higher brightness. And better yet, I could now compare the Glossy Covet apples to apples with the Antiglare M6500. At the same brightness levels (7 out of 15) the colors on the Antiglare M6500 looked more vivid, luck of the draw for me perhaps! Only in very specific cases I could say the Glossy display was better, but throw a bit of light on the screen and the scale tips in favor of the Antiglare RGB LED. As for the ATI M7820, hands down better then the FX3800M in all tests except FurMark OpenGL benchmark. Also, L4D wasn't playable with all details set to maximum @ 1920*1200 on the FX3800M, I had to turn shaders down to medium quality for the game to be playable at all times. I'm running the latest drivers for both the cards.

Max temps of M7820 ~60C / Max temps of FX3800M ~85C (minus DX 11 support) !!!

The ATI M7820 + AntiGlare RGB LED combo has won me over FX3800M + Glossy RGB LED. Thankfully, I had 2 weeks to play with all three systems and form an opinion of my own.


3D Mark Vantage Performance scores for M7820 (8.14.10.0761) + 740QM


3D Mark Vantage Performance scores for FX3800M (260.99) + 840QM


3D Mark 06 comparison.

FurMark scores:
ATI M7820 (1774)
NVIDIA FX3800M (2058)

I think that about covers it all. The Covet is going back tomorrow.

Thanks,
Nik

 

nice comparison. i was able to run black ops at 1080p max settings without OC. m4500 is really good for the money.