Alienware 15 R1 CPU ISSUE *WARNING*

im pretty sure it was on high, but anyways ill check it again and let u know

 

this may sound crazy, it was on high, and FYI i have tried every single latest intel thermal framework drivers along with Intel Management Interface drivers and ME firmwre from station drivers, its more like a hardware level issue, i have more than 5 different driver setup on diff HDDs but none of them work fine, its more like the board is throttling CPU for some reason after heavy loads on gpu/cpu.. lets see, im sending my laptop to DELL RND product team, they will go through the software part / Bios. then they will decide what to do, ill have to wait until that..

 

have you tried without those drivers? fresh windows install nothing else but nvidia and intel graphic drivers or uninstall them from programs an reboot

it's just crazy how after all those motherboard replacements you still having the same problems and there is nothing else but the motherboard on this machines so every time you get a new one it's like a different computer.

 

lol u can check the thread, ive done all that long time back, nothing works, only hope is the RND product team.. if they realize the cpu throttle, and arrange for a new mobo, or atleast fix it by some means, ive no clue, if they even have bios coder in there.. who knows, lets wait and see, but the worst part is after capturing my system they might take 2-4weeks, thats what the escalation team manager told me, i dont mind waiting, but i want a machine that works.

 

Hi all - Sorry if I'm repeating anything already suggested, I've read part of the thread but not all (too busy).

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the new Alienware Command Centre have CPU speed adjustment in it's desktop settings? I believe that is the point of having AW 15~17 Intel Dynamic Platform & Thermal Framework Driver.

Have you tried adjusting the CPU setting to high in Command Centre?

 

nope it doesnt work bro, ive tried many different ME verisons/ME driver and thermal drivers. its just the cpu throttles no matter what, mainly cause of motherboard power issues.. tomorrow im handing my system over to product team for analysis, they might take 2-3 weeks, then they will decide what to do..

 

not a fix but try this set your throttlestop settings the same and enable it your CPU it's not going to throttle lower than 2600mhz you can even go lower on the voltage mine was fine at -75v
but all CPU's are different also remember to set everything to stock and enable when you hand your machine to DELL because the voltages and clocks stick even after reboot. http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/early-2015-throttling-some-info-id-like-to-share.787044/

 

i am fine with my stable 3Ghz i7 4710hq

 

Hey thx for the info, but FYI u can see my last test results, even on 3.4 @ 1.030 volts my cpu dint even break a sweat on intel stress test, but the problem comes when the load is full on gpu and cpu goes above 40% usage, somehow it fails to maintain the speed, anyhow ive handed my system over to dell HQ, they will analyze everything and give me solution, i even asked them to try with 330w adapter or a new 240W adapter, who knows even the adapter could be causing some sort of issues, or the boards VRM getting too hot, lets wait and see, i wont be here for another week or so, so ill update u guys if i get any updates on this. and thank you all so much for participating in this thread and sharing ur knowledge, @Ashtrix @Papusan @DeeX @rinneh @judal57 @Alienware-L_Porras , and whoever left..

 

Curious what they will do with your machine.

 

do the usual diagnostics, run with new heatsink, new adadpter, reinstall windows 8.1, try basic benchmark tool, but i got a call from product team manager/RND team head, they are playing witcher 3.. hoope they see all stats..

 

Either return it to @VICKYGAMEBOY with the 6th refurb motherboard or sell this laptop at a reduced price in one way or another in India.. A new person takes over the problem child and Dellienware hope for the best
Have you tried witcher 3 on your laptop?

 

I finished the Witcher 3 story mode on my old R1. Didnt had problems. Playing The Division on my R2 now. Also no problems.

 

Sorry. My bad... I meant @VICKYGAMEBOY Because Dell support test with that game

 

Yes ive completed the main story, but i have dlc and expansion missions which i dint complete, and actually i completed on my desktop, the only game i complted with this laptop is madmax, blackops 3 sp, that too with the replaced laptop, when it was new.. I got a call, he said he need to know what all softwares i run in background, i told him.. HWINFO. msi afterburner.. XTU, and Xsplit gamecaster, he saw 3.4 @start and he told me he will play for sometime and come back to me, but after that i dint get any call, probably he saw the throttling, and he is busy figuring out lol.

 

How far down throttled your processor in Witcher 3? Next time please ask Dell tech support if they still believe that a cutting edge Intel 4-core i7 from 2014 normally should throttling down to 0.8 GHz in games. (processor put to maximum performance in Win power plan), LOL
It would have been nice to confirm their massive knowledge, HaHa

 

just got a call, he tested with internal alienware stress testing software, not the dell ones, he told me he stressed cpu ram side by side with gpu as well, he dint see any throttle, after somepoint he said the lowest recorded was 2.6ghz, which is non turbo, and his team tested wicher 3 for 30mins above, they told me its holding up 3.4ghz, i told them to play for more hours along with some other games.. but he is a higher level tech person, so he told me 2.6ghz is not a solution, but again let me run someother benchmakrs and see if it goes to 800mhz, tomorrow they will check.. hoping it shows it real throttle. because ive tested the same rig it was throttling, kinda weird when baby boy went back to motherbase, he is acting quite different..

 

the test was AIDA64 extreme edition burn test

 

She's not different, the Alienware is different, 1000% retarded.

 

time to make some memes about alienware R1 echo models.. but i just figured out aida64 extreme is really a good stress testing tool, before i was always stuck with XTU, prime95, furmark, firestrike etc.. can anyone make a gameplay on alienware 15 R2 skylake version with cpu speed status on, tag someone who got R2 version.. that would help a bit..

 

I can do it this weekend maybe. Overwork till then -__-

 

thats great, atleast ur trying, lets see what they test tomorrow, ill share the update once again..

 

make a test with aida64 like me, with all cores set as 3Ghz (this is the max frecuenccy i can get without throttling )

 

LoL, I just read this whole thread...I wonder how rinneh would feel if he couldn't change the graphics card or cpu in his desktop....? I can't stand the disposable Wal-Mart mentality.

 

2 different things. The desktop sits on my desk. It can be the size I want it to be, I do not need to carry it everyday anyway. A laptop on the other hand I have everyday in a backpack with me on the road to my office and back. Upgradeable (and this is debatable since Intel often changes its sockets and GPU's often need some sort of modding) hurts the portability to a point where it is not portable anymore. 5KG on your back for more than an hour on your back in the summer everyday is not a good time. So there you have my answer

 

That wasn't even a answer to would you like having the parts soldered on a desktop...? simple yes or no. You assume a DTR laptop needs to be portable, No it needs to replace your desktop. I didn't buy an 18 inch laptop to carry around I bought it because it's a beast just like me/you bought/built a desktop to be!

 

I dont consider a 18inch laptop to be a laptop to be honest. So if it is something that is stationary on my desk then I want the ultimate power available and no "laptop" can offer me that.

If they can make a 15inch current AW15 style laptop with upgradable parts then I would say yes. But I dont see it happening in terms of possibility now. For an 18inch and thick desktop replacement laptop I dont see a reason why it couldnt be upgradable. But its not a product for me. I would never buy that.

a laptop is something I need to carry so it should be portable. All other products are not laptops for me.

 

A 18 LAPTOP is infinitely more portable than my desktop what do you game with your laptop on your lap on the bus or something...? XD lol for some reason I picture you a an anemic Ethiopian child. Plus you still didn't answer the question...I't Wont READ

 

The question is just ******** Its the same as asking do you want a laptop that can handle 2 titan x cards? A non upgradable desktop is a AIO and no i dont buy those.

I do use my laptop in a train yes, in a plane too, in my girlfriends apartment, in a music studio etc. An 18inch laptop is just not portable. It might be more than a full size desktop, buts its already far beyond a the portability of something you take with you everyday. For twice the money i pay for a similar specced desktop if i may add.

 

I would always choose the 5-10mm thicker laptop and have non-soldered components along with the better thermals. Your argument could be said the other way that your laptop isn't portable enough just carry your phone around. This whole thread has been you arguing with people like Papusan that are infinitely more informed than you about performance laptops. What are you trying to fill your ******** quota or justify your purchase of a BGA bag of crap after the fact. Where does it end your ram and ssd will be next and you'll stand there with a stupid look on your face justifying it.

 

Only is your reasoning pretty stupid. I shall try to explain it to you so you might understand it.

1. A smartphone cannot run games like the witcher 3, the division, gta 5 etc (obviously....). So in terms of what it should do for my requirements and size I have one of the most portable laptops now that can run it comfortably with everything on high settings in FHD without compromises of heat, noise or bulk.

2. Most laptops that do have upgradeable components are indeed bigger, but the EUROCOM Sky X4 for example is not that much thicker and heavier than an AW15. Why I still dont choose to buy that one? Battery runtime of just 2,5 hours while idle is something I dont want while flying 11 hours from Europe to Asia. Again laptop vs desktop replacement.

3, The only real valid reason to have an upgradeable machine is when there is a problem with the CPU or GPU and it needs to be exchanged. Because upgrading from example a Sandry bridge. Ivy bridge CPU to Haswell or Skylake isnt even ****ing possible without changing the motherboard and to my knowledge no manufacturer offered that for an older laptop chassis.

4. Nothing wrong with the thermals in my AW15. CPU under max load is always around 70c and the GPU while being OC'ed always hovers around 65c without fans on full blast.

Not that the thermals on thick desktop replacement machines with desktop hardware are great though.

90c on CPU and 88c on GPU here http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U716-Clevo-P775DM1-Notebook-Review.155740.0.html

Around 90c on both CPU and GPU here http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U726-Clevo-P870DM-Notebook-Review.153136.0.html

Oh look throttling and running even up to 100c
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U706-Clevo-P771DM-Notebook-Review.150989.0.html

So maybe you should learn to imagine how other people use their machines so you do not come across pretty dumb. Fine that you or anyone else ishappy with there thick Clevo barebone, but like I said, those are desktop replacements and Eurocom even market those machines as such.

Talking about high performance but rocking a 6700K is a joke to me anyway because I got an actual workstation running 24/7 under my desk that pretty much smokes everything portable out there while not sounding like a jet engine.

 

You going back to school? :')

 

Thing is I do use my laptop on the go and take pretty much everywhere. My desktop stays at home so you are just justifying an ultra book for your life style and preaching like its gospel. It might make since to you but not others so get over yourself you know nothing...

 

I have always said after each discussion that every user has different needs and not one size fits all. I just give counter arguments to what I consider flawed reasoning.

Enjoy taking your 18inch machine with you everyday on a bicycle (yeah I like to stay in shape and Amsterdam is not a car friendly city), I think you get tired of it real quickly if not your back will hate you when you turn around 40.

Oh and again flawed reasoning. An ultrabook cannot run the things I need it to run so its not a machine for me or else i would have indeed bought one.

Its users as Papusan that preach in forum sections they are not a part of anymore their gospel. Not the other way around.

 

Wow you can't fix stupid....

 

Very true

dumbass

 

you two are going back and forth like children and are detracting from the actual thread. continue it in a private message if you really want to carry on.

 

Turn it rather around... I don't consider AW15R1/2 as ordinary gaming laptop. And of cource not a desktop replacement computer (DTR) for gamers or people who dont want desktop pc's. Aw15 is a laptop for web browsing / email and more like a replacement for portable tablet for people who traveling in work...
Great that you did not purchase Aw17 (After your calculation Nor should this be considered as a laptop - all too heavy and bulky for you) . You could risked a painful back or simply broke it. You should really considered a slimmer/lighter Aw13 who is only 1.97 kg and maybe not destroy your back.
Next best is also to considered a slimmer and lighter Gigabyte P55W v5. It is only 2.6 kg vs Alienware 15R2 which is whole 3.207 Kg...(A much better choice for your back ) In addition will GigaBook also rect the AwBook 15R2 in bencmarks and have the same low score(85%) in Notebookcheck review. Aw15R2 is almost not worthy of a place on NotebookChek's TOP10 ranking list. Only a pitfull 8 place. Not all want a < gaming> laptop that's rected by a cheap Acer, Gigabyte or eMachines. You will say that Notebookcheck always get crippled models from Dellienware as always, but I have also seen same low bench in new test site now precisely. Sorry I did not bookmark test's and gave it to you. Maybe you can find it yourself No G-sync, no anti-ghost keys and a really bad screen if you do not select the much more expensive 4K (which are not everyone's choice for gaming) = A recipe for a wrong designed gaming laptop. Not more or less. + only one 2.5 inch ssd/Hdd + max 2 ram slot is neither something to brag about. Maybe you can store your games in the sky and no one need more than 2 ram sticks

 

What ever happened with this?
I too am now getting throttling again.
The model in general seems unstable and band aided.

 

Are

you high paupsan?

AW15 a portable tablet......

If this portable tablet replacement is scoring 9441 points (AW17R3 review, same as the AW15R2 internally) then why is a XMG U706 with a Skylake 6700K only scoring 9881 with the same GPU So a tablet replacement in your opinion.......Thats even comparing a 15inch laptop with a 17inch behemoth (Alienware 17 could do more with the space though. They really just put an AW15 mainboard in a 17inch chassis. Thats just a mere 3% difference. They could have used that 2 inch extra space for a separate MXM connector to serve the market you would like to be in.

Rekt? by a mere amount of points? Do a fresh install and score higher like I did.....but yeah I am totally rekt now. Let me teach you the work "rekt". Rekt means total destruction, like a desktop compared to a dual core ultrabook. That is wrecking. This is nitpicking Papusan. You are older than me probably, but acting like a teenager. Like I said, only the much larger and thicker machines that can use the 980 MXM board score actually higher. For all other laptops no user would notice it while gaming.

Look at my sig, I had a Gigabyte laptop. They are thin and light because they are stripped of anything holding the laptop together.

But yeah I rather have a Clevo with a really ****ty keyboard (the AW keyboards are always well liked for their tactile feedback, and anti ghosting? I have never came across issues while gaming (which I do a lot) and that really really bad screen only appeared on the review. The better LG screen but still not super bright but seeing the CLevo machine reviews, not all have outstanding screens as well You are so selective with your data Paupsan You could become a politician like Trump.

Why do you need more than 1 2.5inch drive? You got 2 m2 slots next to it? 1x 4tb 2.5inch and 2 ssd's in the M2 slots is more than plenty for 99% of the users on the market.

Those 2 ram slots are enough for 64gb if you want that which is more than 99% need the coming 5 years.

Its not about bragging its about using the product.

 

I'm not high... I have right
Do not take it so seriously, LOL. Turn the other way. Dell used the motherboard from Aw17 in the smaller 15-inch tablet model, Ha Ha. But seriously. With a smaller number of 2.5-inch slot, you are forced to buy bigger and more expensive SSD drives. What if you have a pair lying you want to use? Maybe quite simple. Put them in a portable usb box or in a mess drawer and forget about them. And please... Show me where I can buy a cheap set with 64GB memory for Your Tablet. Where can you buy them? What about the old one you already have...? Are you going to sell them for financing the new one I can't find ? Much joke but also a bit serious sorry for my bad English. I'm punching on my phone

 

Well you can see one big gap between one of the fans and the motherboard because the fans are more far apart in the AW17 and there is a big gap between the mainboard and the USB and powerjack daughter board too.

The AW17 should have been in my opinion a follow up of the AW17R1. Use the extra space available for other benefits.

64GB is the max specified by Intel but its true I havent seen those stick sin the wild yet. BUt its not that 32GB is insufficient ofcourse .

and I would never use a 2.5gb slot fo rjust a small SSD personally. I rather have a bulk storage drive for games storage (they unfortunately still dont benefit a lot from a faster SSD's read performance.

 

@Papusan @rinneh @DeeX

MOTHER OF GOD whats going on here, i was away for 2 weeks, lol what is this, cmon everyone, im still waiting for Dell Team to revert to me, they have tons of process even if they have to order new mobo, and regarding all those things BGA/socket fights, everyone got their own point, dont fight at each other, use the tech/flaws to create something useful. thats how great things are made.. so be good guys.. no fights.. peace.. ill update once the final result comes out

 

thats sad to hear, did u monitor via msi afterburner ?? may be it was doing it before as well, u dint notice.. could you make a video of it

 

Bump the thread aka keeps it active. So a lot of people can see what BGA hardware will lead to aka a foreseen disaster

 

lol thats true, too keen on polaris, im more of a red team supporter.. GTX 1080 can rot in hell, overpriced nvshit, amd is always best for price/performance..i still have my R9 290X toxic beating scores of 980.. in most games with latest driver... which also cost 35% less.. hoping they suceed in polaris and bring mobile gpus next year..

 

whut I dont beleive this. Even a 970GTX is faster than a 290X. Whats your firestrike score?

Digital foundry has videos up where the AMD 390 is slightly faster than a 970 in the division but when you overlock the nvidia card (which the AMD hardly can unfortunately, it greatly outpaces it).

This is a firestrike score in one of my older systems where I only used a single GTX970 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7865787

No AMD 290X is near the 980 score in the ranking.

 

my bad, what i compared is a GTX 970 vs R9 290X.. ive played games like starwars battelfront, crysis 3, it was ahead of GTX 970.. i only test with gaming fps/average.. i dont trust these firestrike base benchmark score. as it relies heavily on diff architecture.. even digitalfoundry on youtube got lots of comparision, how amd is overtaking NVeeediaa.. time to end the monopoly..