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you cannot compare the TDP of 13 with Maxed 17... even a bump of 30W can do a big temp differences on different ambients .. but yes indian DELL is pretty stingy when it comes for replacement, not all cases tho.. some techs are good and kind and straight away forward our cases to the higher management, after all they have to get it approved it from their bosses, who are the big culprits here.. laws works differntly in different country..dm477, Vistar Shook and Vasudev like this.
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I wasn't, and I apologies if my post gave that impression. I was just trying to compare the difference in response of Dell UK and Dell India, and the good job that former did with my machine.Vasudev likes this.
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I really thought you had 17 r4 when you said you had similar config to OP's.dm477 and Vistar Shook like this.
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To clearify whats happening here. The shared heatsink design causes a really bad glitch when not pasting the CPU properly. If the tim gets bad on the CPU the shared heatsink will suddenly use the CPU mount as a heatsink. It's a normal design flaw, you can easily fix this by using good thermal compound such as IC Diamond and Gelid GC extreme.
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@Vasudev @Vistar Shook @VICKYGAMEBOY @Mobius 1 @Papusan
So the tech came today and replaced the heatsink and motherboard.
The paste on both the CPU and GPU had dried completely. See the images below.
For now the temps are amazing. I did a stress test on Aida 64 w/o under volt and temps did reach higher 80s but after undervolting they never reached above 82c with 4.1GHz overclock.
Core temp differential is also about 5c within each other. I'll stress more and share a screenshot soon.
@alexnvidia for your post this is the new heatsink that was replaced in my system.
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I know. By that time I'll repaste and repading it and remove this toothpaste stamp.Vistar Shook likes this.
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Good temps but can be better. Maybe CPU performance mode can help.
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Om aw r4 bener bener kacau heat nya ya . Emang Semua produknya ,gimana rata ratanya om??
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Can you create video again
For stress test result
And playing gaming test
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Keep your unit dust free though, I even see dust on your old thermal pads that got there between the gaps of the components, the fan seems to be stuffed as well. I think that was also part of your problem.
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I think chanting to God won't fix the heat issue since Alienware is made on earth and isn't sold at Multiverse level so they won't have heard of it at all!
I prayed to God to fix my AW but I had to work on it relentlessly for 6 months to get it patched up and ready for anything thrown at it.Djadit, Vistar Shook and oSChakal like this. -
Have you managed to fix the core differentials?
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I am not using 15 r3/r4 instead Echo model 15 r2.Vistar Shook and Altairwarz like this.
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I could have helped but contacting Dell should be the first thing to do, as others have suggested. The representatives were very helpful even for my inspiron laptop, sure that they will provide better service for AW. Just give 'em a call at 1800-425-2073 its 24x7 btw.
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Hey everyone,
Not sure where to post this exactly,
But I need some input from you people (preferably from India)
So, I am planning to buy the Alienware 15 R3 (i7 7820HK, 1080 MQ,120Hz Gsync TN+WVA, 32GB, 1TB SSD, 1TB HDD) that's the only config available here BTW.
Reading about the various issues related to heating I am now a bit skeptical to buy it. Also, nvidia will be refreshing the mobile GPU line-up somewhere around late 2018 according to rumors. I understand that there is always something better on the horizon in the tech-world but should I wait for the new line-up or go ahead with this one. Are the issues really really bad? What I am meaning to ask is what are the odds that I would receive a faulty machine?
Also worth noting are the ambient temps ~ 40-45 C. So I have been experiencing temps around 88-95C for CPU(undervolted & overclocked) and ~60-78C for GPU(overclocked) when pushed hard for couple of hours while gaming and using a cooling pad also, I have repasted using cooler master maker nano twice. Will the temps on the 15 be somewhat similar all things considered? Or would I run into more problems?
I currently own a lenovo y50 with gtx860m 4gb maxwell and i7 4710HQ it's been going strong but now it's down to 30fps 720p.
I have been gaming on 768p for all the while I have had this laptop so switching over is a big step up for me. (I am pretty comfortable gaming at 900p as long as I get solid 60fps)
Also, a desktop is a no-go since, I am on the move most of the time.
So is making a switch now (within a month) wise? or should I wait for something else ? I am really into how the alienware looks and also I see no attractive option(look of the laptop matters alot apart from just config, If I am buying a 3800$ machine It should look the part instead of a typical 1000$ laptop look IMO) in the price range either. BTW it costs around 2.57 Lakhs INR here(3,824.16 US Dollar) for the config I mentioned.
Any input is welcomed coz now I am pretty confused.
EDIT: planning to buy it from a dell exclusive store locally from lucknow. I am a final year student living in NCR so Indian members would know exactly what ambient temps I am talking about.
I hope it's not annoying if I tagged you guys
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Believe me you're better off buying Dell 7000 series gaming laptop with bare specs with i7 and 1050 gpu to reduce throttling and other nasty thermal issues.
AW simply can't hold up at stock clocks and with our climate it'll worsen as time goes on. If you are comfortable with pricing I'd suggest you import the laptop or ask someone in the US or abroad to bring it. Its simply a waste to pay double the price that throttles after a day of minimum usage. So, personally I'd recommend you buy from Clevo laptops from Hidevolution, Xotic PC or GentechPC w/ Prema BIOS that works as intended.
AW battery has high wear level after light usage or medium usage. While gaming it gets too hot and wear level increases while charging and discharging.
Maybe you can look at MSI GT73VR if looks/features are important. Clevo don't have build quality and looks but they perform like intended. It all depends what you want.
Personally, I won't lay a finger on Dell Alienwares anymore.
@judal57 and @VICKYGAMEBOY can shed more info about AW. We're still finding it difficult to maintain good thermals on 15 r2 even after 2 years. So you get my point right?Vistar Shook, msri15603 and Altairwarz like this. -
1050 is a no go for me. Performance wise I'm aiming towards ballpark 1070 performance. Also, I have been looking at the MSI but 17inch is just a complete deal-breaker for me.
As for importing AW nope, can't happen anytime soon.
Build Quality is a top priority because I don't know what rivalry laptop hinges have with me :/
You have an r2, from what I've been reading so far on other threads isn't the r3 more "stable" in terms of cooling, like there are more chances of getting a much better machine.
I have really spun my mind around AW 15 and I might sound like I am defending it, but please bear with me.
I am also pretty skeptical with importing laptops from Xotic PC and the likes simply because of after sales support and lack of any experience in the same whatsoever.
Would I be looking at the temps similar to my Y50? if that's the case I'm completely fine with it coz 3 years and no issues so far. Would that be the case with AW or would it degrade into just plain unusable crap?
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Its your call and I can't say anything.
You see build quality will be non-issue because the 15 r3 can't perform to fullest potential unless you repaste/repad. Even there are lot of issues at SW side where in 15 r4 gets new AlienFX GUI v2.0 which is astronomically faster and better.
Don't import it since it'll be expensive than India pricing.
Ask BeastDragon Forever.
I personally recommend you GT73VR or a Clevo F5 Tornado or 16L-1080 with 7700k and 1080GTX.Vistar Shook and msri15603 like this. -
Will look up these laptops, also won't ONLY repasting with thermal paste(no LM since I move alot) suffice? no repadding.
I am aware of the r4 although there is no hope it will be launching in India anytime soon.
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Thanks for the input.
Also, something interesting over at Dell India.
The 15's description has been updated to that of the core i9 one's with cryotech v2 and new command center i.e. the 15 R4.
Although the spec sheet is still the same 7th gen i7 and max Q. What's even more interesting is that when I click on Buy online it shows as out of stock so, if I am getting this right the R4 is hitting India within a couple of days right? Win - win I guess? Excited AFVasudev likes this. -
ull get in india after 2months.. they want to get rid of 7 series first. typical compu india.. new models are fine. the ones with I7 not the unlocked i9.. no matter what u get, their internal components are pretty vulnerable to ambient temps.. so if u think u can dodge that im sorry, specially its almost 1.5X the price.. waste of money.. wait for some more time... and see if other brands provide any good BGA..Vasudev likes this.
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http://www.dell.com/in/p/alienware-15-r4/pd?oc=a549958sin8
Please check this link here the same specd alienware 15 r3 is listed as r4 and even the drivers support page also shows drivers for 15 r4. Can anyone please check if the new command center works for alienware 15 r3?
I have ordered mine and it will reach me within a week so if anyone can check before-hand it would be great!
Just click on drivers and support from the product page and it will take you to r4 also the url says r4 but same spec sheet. WTF?
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Look at MSI GT75 with 2 yr warranty simply performs better with 8750H/8950HK. AW is too expensive and on top of that, just 1 yr warranty and Win10 Home Single Language OEM version sucks!
Better to get the laptop from aboard in a backpack.
Anyone in India that provides repasting and repadding services like iunlock?
Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by abhay4sengars, Apr 2, 2018.