*OFFICIAL* Alienware 15 R3 Owner's Lounge

yeah i know in general, i meant with th e 15 r3? whats a normal cpus thermal top?

 

Perhaps no one knows yet. Have Dellienware delivered a perfect heatsink and thermal paste for this model? Probably not

 

What? you suggest that all the delivered laptops cpus malfunctioning and overheating? doesnt it affect only 1-5%? i thought there are 5% tops that are bad (like 90+) but the majority is normal like 75 or 80 max? or there are a lot, where the top doesnt reach 90+ but alomst there? and its common???

 

Just look at this

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/alienware-15-r3-gaming-laptop,4796.html

Got to hand it to dell they are smart, giving reviewers the base editions and then look at the temps all hail dellienware, marketing done right.They should have sent the 1070, i7 version and truth would have come to light abt the temps.

 

if your replied to me: in the test they only measured external thermal, which i dont care. or not, maybe thats internal whit a thermal camera, but that doesnt sound that accurate through a case...?

 

Its not for u per se its was in general for all the users on the thread and the whole thermal camera thing even i dont know how accurate that thing is.Its kind of a new trend every reviewers got one of those.

 

Yeah - mine was produced and shipped yesterday and hopefully will arrive next week

Looking forward that there already was a change or fix for the 6820HK and any kind of thermalpaste issues, else i guess i have to repaste which would be not that problem (hopefully this is within warranty)

Q: should i do a CPU "burn in" test after trying to game and hopefully not overheat (and cancel if it reaches 98°C) or should i do a GPU and CPU stresstest?

Regards
aVa

 

Hey man.. I saw your laptop spec. and just curious about your SSD m.2 and Ram upgrade options. Any ideas on the stock ram that alienware provided? I'm thinking getting 1 more 8gb ram stick to have the full 16gb experience.

As for the m.2 SSD... I'm thinking $300 for 1tb evo 850 or 512gb evo 950, any thoughts?

 

Actually.. anyone know the 8gb stock ram that alienware provided? And anyone know where I can purchase that?

 

Why, in theory you can go for a 2400 DDR4 SODIMM with good CL rate, then i guess the slower (orig. AW memory) will be anchor for clockspeed and latency. I just wanna say i had 4 different 8GB SO DIMM DDR3 in my old MSI GT72 and absolutely no issues in focus of stability or speed itś not mor that hard as in couple of years back

I´ve ordered 2 x 16GB DDR4 2400 as best price/speed for mine.

 

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/notebooks/Alienware-15-R3.htm she reviewed the 1070 i6700 one, and had good temps

 

hmm can I ask for your model of the RAM? I'm trying to aim for roughly $100 on ram cost

 

I only refer to what I have seen. Although some might have ok temp... Uneven temp between hottest vs. coldest core is too big and it should not be so. Far beyond Intel's specifications!! Anywhere from 10 to 40 degrees difference between the hottest vs. coldest core on the model is crazy. The figures I have seen. Is far more than what you say... That this problem affect only 1-5%

 

I´ve shopped those https://www.amazon.de/dp/B019FRCV9G but yes indeed, in the US its more https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019FRCV9G

 

Well this is a great question, I have ordered a Samsung 960 pro 512GB which is the latest one, it should be faster than 950 and the price is just a little higher than the 950 I'll suggest to pre-order this. I'll make this SSD drive as boot drive and add a normal 500 GB Samsung 850 m.2 as a normal use drive which is more cheaper but slower I don't care about that I'll keep my main game in the fastest 960 pro. For replacing the 2.5inch Sata I'll go with the HyperX savage 480GB SSD(which come with a harddisk case and reader) and use the original HHD as a external harddisk.
The ram I have order a 16GB HyperX 2400, it should able to work with the original 8GB well I guess so? Then I will have 24GB together. If not I'll just simply throw the original ram away.

 

You will not notice the difference between a 950 PRO and 960 PRO. Stop lying to yourselves. Save some money and grab a cheap 950 off eBay or Amazon.

I have the 950 PRO and 600p and can't even tell the difference between those. They're worlds apart in specs.

 

Wrong post

 

Nah I'm just going to get the latest one, it should be faster. Can I feel it? I don't care. As long as it's fast enough for booting up windows and games

 

The 7200 hdd is "fast enough for booting up windows and games"

 

Well...that's not "enough" for me XD

 

I thought it'll be significant when booting up games like, i.e. witcher 3? Theres like some load times when you access inventory and looking up maps, like fps drop to near 10 from 60. So faster SSD would help in that case?

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/samsung-960-pro-review-the-fastest-consumer-ssd-you-can-buy/

samsung evo 850 vs 960 is pretty huge difference according to the review... I haven't gotten mine yet but my moneys on 960

 

Practically null difference between the 950pro and 960evo/pro when it comes to random read (most important property). Get the cheapest.

 

Hi all,
Does anyone know if and when Alienware fixed the heating problem on the AW15s where one of the core temperature was higher than the rest and if it was a hardware or a software fix?

 

I definitely would prefer an SATA3 SSD instead a HDD, i had trouble with games and "reading" on my GT72 past days where i´ve had HDD only.

Out of my perspective the win from SATA3 SSD over HDD is absolutely awesome, from SATA3 SSD to PCIE SSD you may not recognize at all in daily use (games/programs).

Edit: but in focus of m2-2280 (which is a physical standard) you need to check your chipset/requirements as some can "speak" SATAIII only, some PCIE only, some both, check before buying any SSD stick (m2/2280)

 

Are you perhaps confusing the 850 Evo with the 950 Pro here? The comparission made was between the 950 Pro and the 960 Pro.

 

heaven benchmark

hit 100 deg c i thought 100 celcius it would have done a thermal shutdown ?

 

NVMe is the new standard. The SATA bus is the bottleneck. As long as you go NVMe, you should be good. It's all about I/O queue depth.

 

Believe it's 105, to be exact. That's WAY too hot, though.

 

hopefully the dell account manager can sort the refund monday

 

After speaking twice with a Dell Support person he claims that there is not a problem and that laptops should not be seen as desktops and that the temperatures are normal. I have done the undervolting, down to -0.120, and I still get bad results. I tried to lower the volt more but the machine became unstable.

This is a screen shot of the average temps for a 30 minute run of me playing Assassins Creed Syndicate...

https://goo.gl/photos/dsjZCvyS7vuy25zHA

You can see that core 0 and core 3 have 10 degree average difference for the 30 minutes. I was getting thermal events on core 0 and 3. I suspect that core 3 is what is SHOULD be.

I will give Dell one more chance otherwise I am going to return the machine.

 

The High temps here are very bad. BUT you don't have huge uneven temps (4 C on average temps and 7 C on high temps is okay).

A simple repaste is probably all you need. And I would do that myself. Dell would just ruin it. And returning it risks the uneven core temp problem.

 

yesterday i have a difference of 14 between cores

core 1 92 deg c
core 2 78 deg c

 

anyone else that has high temps and big swings between cores are you still able to play games ?

 

Basically all the laptops run 90+C? or these are the bad examples only? is there anyone on the forum, who has temps below 90 when stresstesting the cpu? or better, around 80? if all the laptops run more than 90C, i will not buy this.

 

Thats not good. Got mine several days ago but couldn't get to it until now.

 

Hey.

Im about to buy the AW 15 R3. Just wanted your fast opinion.
getting the 1070gtx, 6700HQ, 256SSD+1TB, 1080p IPS (No Gsync)

How are the GPU temperatures? And the CPU temperatures?

 

gpu not much of a problem cpu is the issue and screen bleed on mine

 

See post below or read the entire thread!!

I can just refer to my previous post. Dell have serious problems with temp on the new models. And I can't see a change in this!! Perfect examples should already been here by now, if you should rely on what Mr. Azor - Umar and AW support have said.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...16-owners-lounge.797458/page-97#post-10391472

 

Ok, Is there a BIOS fix for CPU temperatures ? I see people are working on it. Havent spotted a fix yet in the comments.

Also, how loud are the fans? (I mean when browsing, and while under full load)

 

I mean this is a small sample I've seen several posts on reddit the las few days of people receiving their r4s and 3s and getting temps in the 70s. Seems there is still some mild core differential but still. It's hard to say if these people hit the lottery or if the issue has been fixed for the most part. I think it will take a few more weeks to get more data on the subject. Wish mine would get here so I can test it.

 

Why are you getting the Non Gsync? I'm about to buy the 15 R3 but I was considering the Gsync 120Hz.

 

Even I decided not to go with G-sync. The colors are so much better on non g sync panel because of IPS display. Colors look washed out on TN panel.

 

Thanks for that, good to know.. So if Non Gsync is better I guess I can go for i7 6820

 

I rather have IPS screen.
Also, Considering this GPU will give 60fps for every game for the next 2-3 years on highest settings, I think its ok.

Games with less than 40fps will look **** with and without the Gsync.

Also, I need the laptop for school so I kinda need the battery more than I need the Gsync.

Still, Im worries about the light bleed and the temperatures... people talk about undervolting and re-pasting..
Is that even normal for users to do? I mean, why do I need to deal with those stuff as a customer?

 

From what I have read around here. Lighbleed complaints are lower in numbers than compared to G sync panels.

 

repasting has become normal for gaming machines sadly.

 

Sorry for being ignorant, buy can you explain in short why repasting will lower temperatures? Why is it important? What makes the difference?

 

The simplest way to put this: high temperatures result in lower performance and increased hardware degradation.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...5r3-disassembly-repaste-guide-results.797373/

Imagine never changing the oil in your car. The engine would eventually overheat and warp.

 

I haven't heard of a single complaint of light bleed for the g-sync panel.

 

So I just finished chatting with the Dell Support people. They do not think that there is a problem with the laptop and the 16 degree difference in core temps is fine...

Here you go, the full result of my chat...

11/21/2016 07:52:56AM Keith Ball: "I am not happy with the heat of my laptop. Having read online a couple of reviews that claim their aw 15r3 is able to game at 60 degrees, I think there is something not right with mine."
11/21/2016 07:53:07AM Keith Ball: " www.tomshardware.com/.../alienware-15-r3-gaming-laptop,4796-4.html"
11/21/2016 07:53:16AM Keith Ball: " www.mobiletechreview.com/.../Alienware-15-R3.htm"
11/21/2016 07:53:26AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "Does the system switchoff again?"
11/21/2016 07:54:21AM Keith Ball: "I have not hit that problem since the bios update, but I am getting thermal throttling events all the time."
11/21/2016 07:54:45AM Keith Ball: "I also have a core temp difference of 16 degrees"
11/21/2016 07:54:47AM Keith Ball: " https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNtDPNP3ZBknPAOFTxqP0rAMOAVyMqth3gSCNmD"
11/21/2016 07:55:20AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "Thats normaly if you stress the system with games"
11/21/2016 07:55:37AM Keith Ball: "90+ is not normal and will kill the laptop."
11/21/2016 07:55:39AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "Close the application that showing the temperature"
11/21/2016 07:55:41AM Keith Ball: "It is also not what is claimed."
11/21/2016 07:55:57AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "Now play"
11/21/2016 07:56:24AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "Thats a mobile system"
11/21/2016 07:56:49AM Keith Ball: "So you are claiming that this is normal?"
11/21/2016 07:57:13AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "Does the diagnostics showing any error-code?"
11/21/2016 07:57:24AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "Can you normaly play?"
11/21/2016 07:57:33AM Keith Ball: "The lifetime of the laptop will not last very long with those heat problems and it is underperforming."
11/21/2016 07:57:56AM Keith Ball: "I get jitters in game, when the Thermal Events occur."
11/21/2016 07:58:27AM Keith Ball: "The diagnostics show no errors."
11/21/2016 07:59:02AM Keith Ball: "So, you say that laptop is fine. ok. Who do I talk to about returning it, as I cant believe you think 90+ is ok."
11/21/2016 07:59:04AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "Than seems to be all OK."
11/21/2016 07:59:38AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "If you stress the system, then 90 degree is OK"
11/21/2016 08:00:26AM Keith Ball: "So how do you explain the core temp difference?"
11/21/2016 08:00:52AM Keith Ball: "One core running at 80, which I would accept as being stressed and the other 96?"
11/21/2016 08:02:00AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "different stress"
11/21/2016 08:02:29AM Keith Ball: "To me it seems like it needs to be repasted. And there heatsink is sitting incorrectly on the cpu."
11/21/2016 08:02:42AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "PLEASE CLOSE THE TEMPERATURE-SCREEN"
11/21/2016 08:05:02AM Keith Ball: "Who do I get in touch with to either get a second opinion on this? As I think it needs to be repaired, or how do I return the device?"
11/21/2016 08:06:49AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "The system is technical OK. We cant take back the system here in the techn. support"
11/21/2016 08:07:42AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "NO technical problem"
11/21/2016 08:07:45AM Keith Ball: "And you will not send someone to repaste and reseat the cpu?"
11/21/2016 08:07:54AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "NO"
11/21/2016 08:08:03AM Keith Ball: "ok, thanks."
11/21/2016 08:08:07AM Keith Ball: "Have a nice day."
11/21/2016 08:08:14AM Mittel (JOERG KIESSLING): "thanks"

I am apparently the proud owner of a perfectly fine and working AW15R3... I guess all I can do now is either manually repaste myself or return the damned thing. I just gave them a LOT of money for this thing. Hmmmpf.

Of course I believe I have not hit the Switch off issue as I undervolted the cpu, but I should NOT have to do that.