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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware 17 R4 Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by katalin_2003, Oct 24, 2016.

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    I got banned from FB forum on Alienware by one of the moderators mentioned above. They didn't like what I posted about the Dell stamp paste being garbage. Wow talk about not being able to speak your mind. The post wasn't even that bad. I stated repasted to Grizzly Kryonaut from the garbage factory Alienware thermal stamps!! Lmao.
     
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    My fully loaded 17 R4 is so sweet. I love the 120hz monitor. However, looks like I hit thermal throttling on 2 cores during Doom (max 93c). This is an outlet gtx 1080 with 1gig ssd (Toshiba) and 32 gig ram.

    I am comfortable enough to repaste or send to iunlock, but I'm wondering whether I should just return it? I've been hearing rumors of a new 1440p ips monitor (the TN banding is terrible), and quite possibly a i7 7280. What do you think? Return and wait for refresh?

    By the way, I figured out why I was only getting 19k gpu in Firestrike. It was benching at the native resolution (1440p) vs. the standards 1080p. I changed it in the settings and get >21k gpu.
     
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    Not the first time. Just ask bro @Cass-Olé
    A long time Aw owner of AW desktops and laptops. They don't want to acknowledge that their models have flaws!! Not a trustworthy attitude. Why not take the criticism and instead thanks you for the feedback and work it out? But No :no:
     
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    All the super moderator had to do was delete the post and private message me to say it's forbidden to post such and such and next time it will be permanent ban, but no they just outright permanently banned me immediately. Crazy. So childish
     
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    Yes, did an old asus that was severely overheating. Got the tools to take it apart, just a case now of ordering the pads/paste and finding a quiet afternoon to do it :D
     
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    Depends on how much you paid. R u saying the banding on your TN is terrible? I have a new 1080GTX on it way.... ordered month ago due to be here mid March. I'm expecting it to have the new quad that fixes the banding. There was a post by someone saying they would have a 120 IPS screen in March but I will believe when I see.
     
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    I got a good price on it (2,200 USD, but I have to convert to Canadia), but while the screen is amazing for games, it's terrible for browsing and picture editing. Also, I'm pretty disappointed that the thermals aren't fixed. I got it 4 days ago, so it shoulda been part the fixed thermals crew..

    Anyways, I'm debating sending it back mostly because of the screen, and waiting for the revised screen/7820 to drop and then just haggle with Dell Canada on a brand new one.
     
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    Yes, anything promised there might actually happen.
     
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    South East Asia. My laptop was manufactured Jan 2017.
     
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    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    You're either trolling or just plain dumb.
     
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    ZOG Paradox Notebook Evangelist

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    Am I limited to how much SSD/Storage I can have on this thing?

    Looking to get either 500GB+ SSDs, already replaced the 2.5 drive with a 500GB SSD..

    And also, besides SSD slot 3, what are the two other types of SSD's I can get?
     
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    Storage
    Table 7. Storage specifications

    Interface

    Hard drive
    Solid-state drive (SSD)

    • SATA 6 Gbps

    • PCIe up to 32 Gbps

      One 2.5-inch drive
    • Two full-size M.2 PCIe/SATA drives

    • One half-size M.2 PCIe/SATA drive
     
  13. Circaida

    Circaida Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey Team,

    Just got my R4. I know this is likely buried in the threads already so bear with me.

    I noted that the system slowly discharges battery while under load. My R2 used to do this but I switched to the larger 240W power supply and it stopped. I am using a 240W on the R4. Have people a) noted that the system also does this and b) been switching to 330?

    Also, anybody noticing any thermal throttling spikes while gaming? Over an hour, I saw a few peaks in XTU, nothing major, but the temps weren't that high so I thought it a bit odd. My R2 used to throttle like crazy for minutes at a time so this is nothing by comparison. Just wondering if I should be more worried.

    Thanks!
     
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    Hey buddy the only way to stop throttling for sure will be a repaste.

    Unfortunately your post doesn't really tell us anything. Run 30 mins OCCT and post a screenshot with hwinfo showing temps etc and that'll help us judge if yours is normal or bad

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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    Circaida Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm more concerned about the throttling kicking in when the temps weren't that high. Might be a difference in cores. I'll check it again under load and see what's up. I'll try fans, or elevating the unit before I go and rip the thing apart.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Something kill the battery in the new AW models
     
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    Hi everyone, I have a kaby lake 17r4 with 7700hq, 1070 gtx, 256 pci-e ssd, 1 tb hard sata drive, 16g 2667mhz ram, Uhd in midwest U.S.A that arrived from Tennessee on Feb 9. I have installed bios 1.05 and also installed all driver updates from dell website that were dated after my estimated manufacture date/order date or that did not appear to be current. All updates were successful including Realtek drivers and I retained Alienware sound center and have experienced no sound issues. I have occasionally experienced slight lag within windows start screen but it is brief and seems to have subsided over time. I have updated Nvidia driver via Geforce Experience succesfully. So far I have experienced no significant issues other than the camera only loading about half of the time upon first startup after machine being off for overnight or any lengthy time. Time spent here and on Reddit did have me concerned about cpu and gpu temps but I have downloaded hwinfo64 and stress tested using alienware support assist, xtu and heaven benchmark and saw now real concerns with temps. I hear the fans kick in when stress testing and slow upon test completion back down to nearly silent. Fans do spin up from time to time but only slightly and for short periods. I contemplated downloading other stress testing software like OCCT or Prime95 but I am not sure the necessity at this point. I've never overclocked a cpu nor do i have the desire to delve into such realms. I just want to enjoy exploring some modern games from time to time alongside using my laptop for work. I believe that my cpu only supports overclocking within the design structure of what is referred to as Turbo Boost. I say this not even clearly understanding what Turbo Boost is but I did see my clock speeds in the low 3ghz range during stress tests so I assume it is working. While I do find the world of overclocking interesting and may one day explore it I think I am limited (correct me if I'm wrong) by my choice of hardware as of now. My plan is to use my laptop for whatever games i see fit to play and if I experience problems playing games I will address them on a case by case basis and I am ok if I have to dial back some settings to make a game playable. If trouble comes my way I will seek advice here as I really appreciate the vast base of knowlege here. I will be happy to provide feedback about my machines performance for those who want to know. I feel I am in good hands here but somehow I feel confident that I am fortunate to so far have a quality build from dell. I am learning as I go and enjoy reading all posts. My overall impressions of the brand are good but I find it concerning that some have had the experiences they have had, hopefully those situations will be resolved over time.
     
  18. openglcg

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    What cpu and gpu do you have?

    To answer you: I have NOT noticed thermal throttling on my r4 with the 6700hq and 1070. I do notice throttling down to around base clock speeds of 2.6ghz sometimes in intel xtu however this is probably for a VERY short period as I do not notice any dropped frames in game when this happens. With the 240w power supply my battery does drain to 95% several times a day while plugged in. Not sure why.

    Yeah I had the old r2. The thing used to throttle like crazy. This one I can actually play games on although the issues with it are still unacceptable by my standards.
     
  19. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    MORE OF THE SAME BATTERY DRAIN The result in the end KILLING THE BATTERY
     
  20. HrSoegaard

    HrSoegaard Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi.

    I am new at Alienware and bought me an Alienware 17 R4. I could save some money by Sky Lake and then they just run 10% so I got a really good discount on this machine. See spec here:

    Artikel
    Beskrivelse
    Basis
    Cassini 17, CTO
    Processor
    Intel® Core™ i7-6700HQ (Quad Core, 6 MB cache, op til 3,5 GHz med Turbo Boost)
    Operativsystem
    Windows 10 Home (64-bit) – engelsk, dansk, finsk, norsk, svensk
    Grafikkort
    NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 med 8 GB GDDR5
    LCD-skærm
    17,3" refleksfri IPS-skærm med FHD-opløsning (1920 x 1080) og Tobii IR-øjesporing (300 nit)
    Hukommelse
    32 GB DDR4 på 2400 MHz (2 x 16 GB)
    Harddisk
    512 GB PCIe SSD (startdisk) og 1 TB SATA (7.200 omdr./min) 6 Gb/s (storage)
    Trådløs forbindelse
    Killer 1435 802.11ac 2x2 med Wi-Fi og Bluetooth 4.1
    Tastatur
    Integreret tastatur med baggrundsbelysning – nordisk (QWERTY)
    Supportservices
    1 års Premium Support med Onsite
    Hændeligt uheldsservice
    Uden hændeligt uheldsservice
    Microsoft Office-produktivitetssoftware
    30-dages prøveversion af Microsoft® Office – inkluderer ikke Office-license
    Beskyt din nye pc
    McAfee® LiveSafe, 30-dages prøveperiode
    Primært batteri
    6-cellet batteri på 99 W/t
    FGA Module
    Tilpasset BTO-konfiguration
    Kabler
    Dansk netledning (240 W/330 W)
    Vejledning
    Måtte på dansk
    Chauffør
    Driver til Killer N1435/N1535
    Følgesedler
    Forsendelsesdokumenter på engelsk, dansk, svensk, finsk, norsk, spansk
    Dokumentation
    Dokumentation medfølger ikke
    Ordreoplysninger
    Bestilling af Alienware X51 R2
    Retail Packing Label
    Medfølger ikke
    Emballage
    Alienware 17 R4-forsendelsesmaterialer
    CFI Included (Smart Selection)
    CFI medfølger ikke
    Retail Information
    Retail Information medfølger ikke
    Mærkat med dokumentation
    Intel® Core™ i7 etiket
    AC Adapter
    Alienware 240 W AC-adapter
    Genoprettelsesmuligheder for operativsystemer
    Ingen medier til operativsystem inkluderet
    Programmer, der ikke er fra Microsoft
    Ekstra software FY17 C5
    Included with your Order
    Dropbox-software
    Futuristisk
    Lovmæssige og miljømæssige etiketter (240 watt)

    I got this machine for 2000 Euro, im from Denmark.

    I think the 6700HQ is okay, because for the same Price i could get a 7700HQ but the only the GTX 1060. Im looking forward to get this and maybe i need to re paste it, that I have read a lot about the temp.

    I wich there were G-Sync in it,but FAST SYNC is okay for me at high fps.

    Thansk for all the feedback in here, it really help me take a good choice.
     
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    I've never changed mine and get 23500 + :O I'll check tonight

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
  22. Pete Light

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    You need a CPU intensive game like BF1 or witcher 3 to be sure you've got a decent unit. OCCT will help to, I'd definitely recommend running 30 mins of one of them.

    The 7700HQ is a poor chip for future proofing. It's limited to max turbo boost of 3.4GHz on all four cores and there's nothing you can do to change that. You should however stress your CPU and make sure it's running at 3.4 all the time. I also have this chip

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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    Welcome! Good decision going skylake (there's not much difference at all) Although I'd really wish you'd have bought the unlocked 6820HK instead of the 6700HQ. It will severely limit you in game in the future forcing you to drop settings when your GPU is more than enough

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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    I know this was discussed about 200 pages back, so pardon my inquiry ... but what bags are you all using with your AW17's?? Thanks!
     
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    Niarus Notebook Consultant

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    Everki Titan is a pretty good backpack: http://amzn.to/2maTUj4
     
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    I'm interested in the current situation with a new 1080 Ti, will it be available soon for AW17 R4, or it's a whole new process.. And will it affect the price of 1080, will see o_O
     
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    The Alienware Vindicator v2.0. It's really good!
     
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    Meeting with Dell: 03-01-17

    As you guys have seen there's the new vbios for the GTX 1080 with reports of the TDP reaching ~200W. This isn't an official-official release, so take caution if you'll be flashing this. Please make sure you know what you're doing first, because if you brick your system, this is your responsibility. If you have any questions, feel free to ask those on here as there are a lot of people who can help you.

    They are also working on the QC issues and am fully aware of those units still slipping past the gates and ending up in your hands. In short, the ones that are responsible when assembling the units are under heat and scrutiny....so as we speak, things are getting addressed and handled. This was heavily stressed and the certain people we've spoke with (higher ups within the company) want this ironed out just as bad as we do.

    With all of that out of the way, March 13th is the date we should see the new AW17R4 (7280HK / New QHD Display / GTX 1080 on the new vbios).

    - Team LHz
     
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    We will not see a 1080ti in the laptops.
     
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    s1rrah Notebook Evangelist

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    Do you mean the briefcase or the backpack. I'm really interested in the briefcase version of that bag but not sure which one fits this newest AW17 ... Amazon reviews are super ambiguous and full of references to all sorts of models ...
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Just thought I'd share...

    This is on the original vbios. (Not even the new vbios) Pretty interesting peak, which is cool to see, but means nothing....

    But now with the new vbios, we should be able to stretch the GTX 1080 even more....and it does....

    BEFORE new vbios hitting 194W:
    [​IMG]
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    I have the v2.0 briefcase and it fits perfectly. The v2.0's are all specifically made to the new AW lines dimensions.
     
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    RussellA Notebook Geek

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    Oh I have the backpack. But I am sure the v2.0 briefcase should fit the 17 R4
     
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    terrain Notebook Evangelist

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    My 1080 has a ETA of March 7-15 .... I was told it would have the new QHD. Do we know yet what to look for ... other than no banding?
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Correct. It is a whole new panel all together ....polar opposite from the current QHD.
     
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    Hi iunlock,

    I have an alienware17r4 6820hk with QHD 1080gtx on the way too, delivery time is march 21-29.

    Is that mean I am getting the new QHD and and vbios for 1080gtx? I heard the new QHD will be IPS panel, can you confirm with that? will they exchange my 6820hk to 7820hk since the new Alienware 17r4 QHD unit is coming with 7820hk.

    Thanks
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    The new vbios is panning out to be pretty nice.

    This is just a preliminary casual run...

    Note: Graphics Score -> 24131

    TDP ~180W+ and tapping into the mid 190W's....

    More to come....

    [​IMG]

    Just the beginning... :)
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Why bench with 3.9GHz?
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Keywords in the post:

    "This is just a preliminary casual run..."

    "More to come...."

    "Just the beginning... :)"

    The focus is not about the CPU right now...it's about tuning the GPU. :p
     
  40. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Because of the shared pipes - heatsink, I would personally pushed graphics with maxed processor clock speed. Pascal performance is highly depends on temp. Have some of you tested with stock graphics and the new vBios?
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Finally broke 18K with no effort just relaxing on my desk.

    [​IMG]

    The TDP stays north of 180W frequently during a 3DMark loop and peaks into the upper 190W's.

    196.543W in particular for this Run at only 55C. Just crazy.

    [​IMG]
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Yes I'm in the process of testing everything and tuning with all different combos.

    Stay tuned as I'll keep everyone updated fresh off of the skillet.
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    207W! @ only 61C. This is traditional paste by the way (Grizzly Kyronaut), not LM. Crazy good cooling system.

    [​IMG]
     
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    210W! @ only 61C. This is traditional paste by the way (Grizzly Kyronaut), not LM. Crazy good cooling system.

    [​IMG]

    By the way, it may seem repetitive, but it deserves to be shared for those who have ever doubted the cooling system of the AW17R4, when all along I've been saying that it is the best cooling system I've seen in a system in ratio to both its size and form factor. :)
     
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    Is "March 13th" for USA only..?
    I live in South Korea and I heard that "the guy in DellKorea said it will take 2~3 months to launch in Korea"

    Confusing! Where should I ask.. to Umar?
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Anyoung....send me a PM. :)
     
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    AW17R4 - GTX 1080

    Fire Strike: 18468


    [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks, going to pick one up.

    joel
     
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    I too ordered this configuration on Feb 18th and have an estimated delivery date of March 17-27. My rep informed me the QHD issues were fixed when I ordered. I mentioned to her that a 7820HK 1080GTX system was available on Amazon for pre-order however I was told that they can only order what is available on the dell/alienware website and had no information regarding when the new processors would be available.

    I really hope everyone gets a bump to the 7820HK's for waiting so long on these systems. I hear rumors the new QHD is IPS... that is quite spectacular and finally an uncompromising solution. Please let this be an under promise over deliver situation.
     
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  50. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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