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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware 17 R4 Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by katalin_2003, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    All good. All depends on your usage. But 16GB is minimum today.
     
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    hodgeMN Notebook Evangelist

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    Won't the ram work in dual channel up to the amount of the lowest capacity stick? I though I read that someplace... Could be wrong though
     
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    Mixing ram with different timings can cause stability and performance issues.
     
  4. Pete Light

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    I disagree! I bought a second Toshiba 1TB at a fraction of the price of a Samsung (less than half actually). 2500MB/s read and 1800MB/s write, I dare you to tell the difference from any kind of laptop task side by side...

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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    Won't the speed/timings default to the chip with the lowest settings?
     
  6. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Haha :p... In terms of real world usage for most people, I agree even a 2.5" Sata SSD is more than enough...heck with gaming, virtually zero difference if at all.

    I have a few of the 1tb and 512GB toshiba sticks, but those speeds are: -> Thanks to Samsung as most of the high performing ones that are close to the Samsung Evo, all use Samsung chips (controller module).

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    But yea, at the end of the day, most decent m.2's are plenty for most users. :)
     
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  7. pathfindercod

    pathfindercod Notebook Virtuoso

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    Bought it used at the fraction of the cost.
     
  8. hodgeMN

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    1 WTNR3 Assembly,Cable,Embedded Display Port,QHD,GSYNC,AW17R4 $9.99
    Item Sub Total $9.99
    Item Ship Charge $0.00
    Item Tax $0.78
    Item Total
    $10.77

    Only problem is you can place the order with Dell but it will be postponed and then cancelled after a couple weeks.... From looking at the photos of the internals on the 17r3 and 17r4, the 40pin 17r3 cable might work on the 17r4. There is a slight difference in how the camera connection is wired but it does not look like it would be an issue.
     
  9. Pete Light

    Pete Light Notebook Deity

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    Can you tell what controller it has from hwinfo or anything?

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
  10. NA087

    NA087 Notebook Consultant

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    I wasn't just wondering (since I ordered) anyone get there new Alienware 17 R4 7820hk with GTX 1080?

    Would you mind sharing your review?

    There is the TN panel which iunlock says is fixed (correct me if I am wrong)

    They added thermal pads.

    (Where do I get .1 mm thermal pad or should I get thermal tape)

    Do we still have to bend the heat sink to apply proper pressure?

    A review will be much appriciated thank you.
     
  11. Amraam

    Amraam Newbie

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    Earliest ETA is March 27th I think… another week or so till we see a review IMHO
     
  12. NA087

    NA087 Notebook Consultant

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    Soooo..... raise your hand if you are one of the first ones.
     
  13. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    No, Not even Aida64. But Tom's hardware or Anandtech tech reviewers normally tell about it.
     
  14. RJPala

    RJPala Newbie

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    OCCT with a -150 undervolt I get 72 max, usually sticks around mid 60's.

    However, gaming (only tried Witcher 3 on max settings) I generally average around mid 70's and max 82.

    Should I repaste? I never done it before and to be honest I would be very afraid of messing things up.

    Edit: woops, this is the 15 r3. Re-posting there.
     
  15. openglcg

    openglcg Notebook Consultant

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    If you haven't done anything like that before it is not recommended unless u want to take alot of time to learn what you need to do and take alot of care when you do it. Witcher 3 is a pretty demanding title for both cpu and gpu. That 82 deg should be a good mark for near the peak of your gaming temps. It could be alot lower but at the same time you could end up making it higher if you do not do it correctly. 82 is high but its not at the level where I would take the risk of breaking your computer to fix it. You will probably get an ok lifespan out of the computer and will not get throttling with that max temp.
     
  16. Ty13rDurd3n

    Ty13rDurd3n Newbie

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    So...is anyone feeling left out by not getting a free game for their laptop purchase (ie, purchased directly through Dell, which didn't offer promo's)...?
    AND, did you get Tobii eye tracking...???


    Well,....if you did get Tobii, you might want to turn on your Tobii (bottom right toolbar) and check if you have a little blue message icon to say you have a free game waiting.

    THATS RIGHT!! - Free copy of Ghost Recon Wildlands! Woot woot. I discovered it, and was like...wtf is this....followed the bouncing ball, and boooiyah!

    I thought the Tobii eye tracker was SUCH a gimmick at first,....until I played Ghost recon Wildlands with it.

    Man....it really helps quickly locate/identify enemy contacts in a short amount of time by just simply looking at them (PS - don't be a noob like me and think that the Eye tracker isn't accurate - peel off the thin protective sticker off of it, THEN re-calibrate!!).

    Enjoy!
     
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  17. cn555ic

    cn555ic Notebook Deity

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    If it's free it's only the beta or trial version. No way it's the full version.
     
  18. Ty13rDurd3n

    Ty13rDurd3n Newbie

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    Definitely the full game (unrestricted version) with access to the whole map, etc. Remember, it is the standard game, however, not the deluxe.

    When you click through your Tobii program, it takes you to the tobii website where you register. It then gives you a game voucher code, which you then redeem in a uPlay account (Ubisoft's equivalent of Steam) and it adds it to your uPlay account. Then just download it & play it. I'd screenshot it for you, but there's no point - people with Alienware 17 R4 + Tobii will understand once they get the game for free.

    (for the skeptics, just google "Tobii Ghost recon wildlands free game alienware 17")

    AND, in game you get a free Tobii shirt - it looks ghay as hell #^_^

    Besides, I didn't think you could access the beta anymore, anyways, once the actual game's been released...

    If anyone wants to play co-op with me, look me up (Ty13rDurd3n)
     
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  19. cn555ic

    cn555ic Notebook Deity

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    Wow. That great. The game is 60 bucks ! Tobii eye must be suffering because to offer this means they are not getting anyone to register for it! There has to be a catch. Nothing is free
     
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  20. etonomico

    etonomico Notebook Enthusiast

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    By the time I ordered my laptop qhd + tobii eye I got watch dogs 2 from tobii (actually It was hard to get cuz dell reps had no idea how to redeem my game code, they kept telling me to wait an email with my code, thanks god I opened a support ticket with tobii). Full game, same procedure no catch :)
     
  21. openglcg

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    Another good game for tobii eye tracking is elite dangerous. The game was built with VR in mind emphasizing the ability to look around the cockpit while you fly. But number of essential control functions are high. So its really nice to be able to use your eyes to move the view around.
     
  22. Zukasha

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    Hi everyone :)
    Thanks for sharing your experiences!
    I'm looking to buy my first gaming laptop to get back into the computer gaming world (been a LONG time). I've heard great things about the keyboard--is it, for those who have had the chance to compare--quite notable better than other gaming laptop keyboard (i.e. asus ROG, MSI titan, etc.). Would love a little insight on this :)
    Anyone have any specific recommendations on how to spec out one from HIDevolution (this is the model I'm thinking about: http://www.hidevolution.com/alienware-17-r4-gtx-1070-7700hq-custom-built-to-order.html).

    Cheers!
     
  23. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Hey there,

    From my experience, the keyboard on the AW laptops is the best for its type and the keyboard on the MSI and ASUS are great for chiclet style keys. If you're used to the traditional keys like what is on the AW, you'll be happy with those as it has great tactile feedback and the keys when pressed are pretty confident.

    As for chiclet style, it's just one of those things where people love it or hate it. I will say though, even if you do desire a chiclet style keyboard, there are other factors that may turn you off on the MSI or Asus that would outweigh the key options.
     
  24. Mikasa

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    I take it if you already registered and received watch dogs 2 and assassin's creed syndicate you won't get this? (Greedy I know) :)
     
  25. nerdstaz

    nerdstaz Notebook Guru

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    I purchased a used 17r4 from a buddy of mine that has the 1440 QHD GSync screen (6700HQ, 1070 - ordered originally 11/2016). I immediately noticed the banding a lot of folks are talking about. I knee jerk reacted and called Dell tech support (didn't do my research first). They are coming on 3/22 to replace my screen - it was shipped on 3/20. I seen a twitter post saying that new QHDs are available on 3/21 - today. So my questions are:

    1) Has anyone gotten a screen that didn't have the banding through replacements that saw it before?
    2) Does anyone know if the new QHD will be compatible?
    3) What are the odds I got it or did my knee jerk reaction cost me?

    I love the machine - this is just like a train wreck I can't stop looking at. It is minor, I saw the watermark responses and such. I just cannot unsee it.

    For what it is worth, I do know the panel that shipped is the same part number from Dell: WJGD4

    Thanks guys!
     
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    kaktusUK Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys

    Bit of a weird question but has anyone come across a Laptop Rollerbag that will fit the 17R4? Ideally one that has a separate laptop compartment and a compartment at the front for storing other stuff like passports etc

    I don't know why it's proving to be rather difficult to find one - they're either all for smaller laptops or they're very large and effectively a rolling suitcase with no laptop compartment...

    Max Dimensions of the bag should be 55cm x 45cm x 25cm to be able to get it in the Cabin of a plane.

    [​IMG]
     
  27. etonomico

    etonomico Notebook Enthusiast

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    No, I got Watch dogs 2 only. More free games from tobii would be great tho :p.
     
  28. mobile96

    mobile96 Notebook Geek

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    i got Watch Dogs 2 and Assassins Creed Syndicate when i bought my first R4 in December. (still have both games even tough i returned the R4 :p) i'm looking forward to my next free AAA game xD
     
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    I didn't get any games.... I am debating sending them an email. I have had mine since around January...
     
  30. QuillP

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    Hi. From Dell give me the option to change my 17r4 6820hk gtx 1070 for a 17r4 7820hk gtx 1070. Is it worth to make the change? The 17r4 7820hk has temperature problems too?
     
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    Well, if they give you the chance and it doesn't cost you anything i'd do it.
    We don't know yet if there will be temperature problems too, because the R4s with the 7820hk just launched about 10 days ago.
     
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    Thanks for the response! I'm going to check out some models this weekend so I can get a bit of tactile feedback myself.
    Were there specific concerns you have with MSI or Asus? Would love to hear about your experiences.
    Cheers!
     
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    Nice... I wish dell would offer me that, i'd take that offer in a heartbeat.
     
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    17R4 1080GTX -- arrived March 7th... Tobi installed/registered- no Free Ghost. On Tobi site says you have to order thru that link to get it for free ....


    Alienware 17 Laptop
    [​IMG]Including Alienware 17 Gaming Laptop + Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon® Wildlands PC
    Limited Offer until March 31 or until supplies last!
     
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    I use this one, fits the 17R4.. Delsey Montmartre Pro Cabin Trolley Pilot Case black
    http://www.delsey.com/int/en/p/montm-pro-cabin-tr-pilot-pc-00124448000.html
     
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    hi guys. can someone help with AW17R4 box dimensions?
     
  37. TLS2000

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    It doesn't say that. It's not clear if it's for new orders or not, but it doesn't say that you have to order it through that link.
     
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    hope this help .. not ultra accurate but its should be close enough .. check the photo
    [​IMG]
    it gets shipped with two boxes
    black box dimensions : 51.5x11x46.2 or 46.5 cm
    brown box dimensions : 53x13x46.5 or 46.8 cm
     
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    i had a skin on my previous alienware , so i bought one for the new one its essential for me to remove the finger prints and dusts or ruin the materials in general .. i only applied it to this part , as i like the to keep the original look

    [​IMG]

    and i bought this to save the keyboard as well

    [​IMG]
     
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    terrain Notebook Evangelist

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    I have a march 17R4 1080GTX and I don't have a free copy of Ghost --- do you?
     
  41. TLS2000

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    Their own website says the offer can take days to appear. I'm not saying you're wrong. Just saying you're jumping to conclusions.

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
     
  42. Pete Light

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    I wouldn't take this advice I'm afraid @RJPala. Not yet anyway, first before you accept those temps we should really understand if your system is currently throttling during the benchmarks / hamming otherwise your not getting the max performance you paid for! It's good that your willing to repaste if you have to. Just be organised and take your time and you'll be fine.
    To determine if you're throttling can you run hwinfo configured like in my sig below for 8 hrs OCCT during the two tests you mentioned and post the screenshots back?

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
  43. Pete Light

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    How did you get both? Both from Tobii?

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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    Looks like it only offered to R4 owners. Sucks
     
  45. Mikasa

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    Yeah, after I received the first game they sent an email. When you clicked on the link you get 5 emails, 1 every day I think and it shows you what you can do with tobii via unlisted YouTube videos. After the fifth they sent the game code.
     
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    Ohh wait! I double checked an old email from tobii and now I might get Assassins Creed too. Lets see if that promo is still working haha o_O
     

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    Just for kicks I decided to test out the new speed shift technology to see if I could get better performance in 2 core games. For those who don't know speed shift is like speed step. It adjusts your core multiplier based on cpu utilization and number of active cores. While speed step used the operating system to change speeds, speed shift runs entirely on the processor and is thus more responsive. In addition you can use throttlestop to configure speed shift to favor performance or battery life as well as to set its upper and lower throttling limits.

    I noticed that speed shift was off by default (for 6700hq it may be different for other cpu's).

    6700hq is locked at 3.5ghz 1 core, 3.3ghz 2 core, 3.2ghz 3 core, and 3.1ghz 4 core.
    Tested using heroes of the storm because the game uses 2 cores and has a low gpu load so it is easily cpu bottlenecked.

    I found that I was able to run a higher average clock rate and it seemed to give me higher fps by 5 or so vs no speed shift.
    However it should be mentioned that I still got MUCH better performance being locked at 3.1ghz with bios 1.0.9. ( WARNING BIOS 1.0.9 is known to cause issues that could temporarily brick your system)

    If you are not running bios 1.0.9 and you want to try out speed shift get throttlestop. The "speed shift - EPP" setting controls performance, 0 is performance 255 is energy efficiency. "Min" and "Max" are the upper and lower multiplier limits.
     
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    I got the assassins email as well but already have them all so ignored it. Maybe they are changing it up... I got a voucher for the Hunt but no Ghost.
     
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    Any updates 17r4 with gtx1080 and 7820hk QHD1440p
    How long before we see some testing numbers?
     
  50. Xavier2612

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    Hi i need some help before I buy one of 2 listed :
    I'm going to use my laptop for gaming only. I know out of the box some or most of have temps issues.
    Alienware 17 r4, i7 6700hq, GTx 1070, 2560x1440p 120 g sync, 256ssd plus 1tb hdd, tobi eye,

    Alienware 17 r4, i7 6820hk, GTx 1080, 2560x1440p 120 g sync, 256 ssd plus 1 Tb hdd, tobi eye.
    Both are refurbished aw with 1070 cones with 3 year warranty and 1080 one comes with 1 year warranty and small dent on the rear panel. I don't bother about that dent. The things is 6820hk is only 100£ more then 6700hq. But for gaming and better temps should i go for 6700hq 1070 instead of 6820hk and gtx 1080?
    Does 6700hq with 1070 and 2560x1440p panel hold games at 100fps. Mostly I play battlefield 1 online. I know we have so many specialist here so I appreciate for any advice. Thanks
     
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