*OFFICIAL* Alienware 17 R4 Owner's Lounge

Maybe my next PCs will be optimised by Hidevolution. Even SSD rates are close to Amazon and little cheaper. After 3-4 years, I'm definitely buying from them with metal paste treatment. Maybe I would apply LM in near future

 

Read my POSTS. Expect the same situation as Today. You say, No prices is set in Stone. I know. You can get a good deal several places. Not only Dell. Most of the sellers out there want your MONEY!!

And Dell offer the cheapest package? All depends where you live in the world. And as I said... OPTIONS!! More is better than less!!

You can opt for quality ssd's without running into Dell's ssd lottery. And decent prices. And yeah, I have seen the ssd boiling party. Not nice!! As well struggle + argue with Dell support hoping they can replace to better ssd's due the boiling temp + decreased lifespan after short time due this mess ain't fun. All should know Dell support isn't the same in different countries!! Some is very bad.

 

Dude we get it and we really appreciate your feedback but you need to move forward, deals keep changing all the time and some providers will allow more customization than others. At this point I hope everyone knows and consider ALL Alienware flaws BEFORE buying this systems. FYI I'm not a fanboy, this is my first Alienware (lucky me ) and I get your point, It would hurt us if Dell were using more / better options but probably as many AW owners I pulled the trigger just because they had the best deal available by the time I bought my system, anyone looking for more customization will go for another brand / reseller just like you.

 

Many options available everywhere. Just remember Support is one of the keys things. Find a boutique that will handle warranty and stand behind a machine you choose. Having first hand dealing with Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, Lenovo and Dell I can tell you NOBODY has support as good as Dell. If you have your head on your shoulders and act like an adult when you call you generally get good service. The onsite warranty options are bar none the best in the industry. Good luck mailing your system in to any other manufacturer. HIDevolution support for me was extremely good. You pay for it though. Their system prices with premium products demands a premium price. I have not had to mail in a system to them but have heard good things about that as well. Phone support is good. If you've ever wanted to band your head on the wall and claim insanity try calling Asus or Gigabyte....

 

with the constant 10% cashback from ebates in addition to whatever u can get from the rep (10-20%) it is very hard to beat dell's price. If you don't like their SSD just sell it on ebay and buy urself a 960 PRO problem solved

 

If you don't mind being gouged for pricing, sure.

Let me clarify.

Buying a barebones machine from hidevolution will always be more expensive than buying from Dell with basic ram/ssd option.

My point is not having more option from the seller, you should ALWAYS buy ssd/ram extra aftermarket. HID charges close to MSRP on the drives that you can similarly get from deals online and easily install yourself.


/r/buildapcsales
/r/hardwareswap

 

The prices of laptop along with accessories and 3 yrs of global warranty with ADP from HID-evolution is equivalent to India. So, I get HK and 1080 with 16/32GB RAM Double SSD etc from HID-evolution instead of Dell HQ & 1070 with 16GB RAM and 1 SSD.

 

well to international prices, always bloated price

buy from the us and ship to india, much cheaper that way

 

Warranty transfer could be an issue here on clevo's?

 

With options... I mean It's up to yooo to buy or not. If you choose eg Dell. + Lack the knowledge (A hell lot of buyers cant't see the difference between high vs. low end and Quality)... People can risk end up with an overpriced, low end BOILING 1TB NVMe ssd(In worst case double up aka 2x 1TB NVMe ssd's). No one say Yooo should-MUST buy from the ODM/Re-seller if they have more options in their configurator. OPTIONS is... Offer yoo Quality brands. As well the OPTIONS to say NO THANKS. Aka you can buy the machine fully stripped down. Thats is called OPTIONS for me!!

Yeah, Order and ship to where I live. Pass the border and everything will be put on 25% taxes. Of course on top of the product cost, shipping and as well processing fee at the border or on arrival. The damn cheap hardware will be put on 25-30% extra when I have it in my hand. Would be nice living in U.S

 

depends on your clevo reseller


with dell it's mostly issue free but takes up to 2 weeks to transfer warranty

 

Pretty sure I broke all the record for 3dmark on 7820HK/1080 notebook

Just not sure how I can get ice storm unlimited

advanced search to verify (set the benchmark you want and select 1x gpu): https://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mode=advanced&url=/proxycon/ajax/search/cpugpu/spy/P/2214/1104/500000?minScore=0&cpuName=Intel Core i7-7820HK&gpuName=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Notebook)

https://www.3dmark.com/cg/4047067
https://www.3dmark.com/sd/4710702
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/12919214
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/12919266
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/12858359
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/1942695
https://www.3dmark.com/is/4177487
https://www.3dmark.com/is/4177513



@Papusan @bloodhawk @Phoenix @Welrence


lol?

 

Go for 3DM11

 

any place to get the advanced edition cheaper?

 

Don't know. I purchased when it was at the bottom. Maybe look here

 

dank

 

See this picture:

 

What were your clocks?

 

5ghz cpu

gpu varies depending on bench

 

Need a little help and advice guys. New to this forum and new to the PC gaming world, I have always been a PS gamer but always wanted to switch over so I finally pulled the trigger. That being said I just ordered an Alienware 17R4 and would like some quick advice on what the first few things I should or need to purchase for it to start gaming. Controller, keypad, mouse, headset... or anything at all since I am new to PC gaming. Thanks in advance.

 

Welcome to the Master Race(tm) padawan ....

;-)

There's not a whole lot to worry about really ... just make sure your current on all your drivers ...

If your going to be playing on the laptop by itself (no external monitor, etc.) ... and if your comfortable with the laptop keyboard ... then just get a decent mouse (you don't have to spend a ton) ... and then get used to using the keyboard/mouse as your primary game controller.

On the other hand ... if you *have* to use a controller ... then the standard PC Xbox controller will work fine. But being honest? If you get used to and master the use of a keyboard/mouse then you will consistently PWN any other gamer that uses a controller. It's just physics ... keyboard/mouse > controller ...

As far as headsets are concerned? I never use a mic as I don't like talking during game and much prefer typing but just google gaming headsets and do your research if you want a headset/mic arrangement.

Congrats on the purchase mate ...

Welcome.

;-)

Joel

 

Zeiss Lens Cleaner Spray

I use it every day on the wrist wrest of my AW17 ... works like a magic trick and causes zero damage. Just the right amount of grease/print cutting power and generally just takes one good spray and a wipe down with a paper towel or soft cloth.

In fact, I clean the entire laptop with it every week ...

I am only the messenger ...

https://www.amazon.com/Zeiss-Lens-C...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=WMMPXT2XJ3XE5ZJP5091

Best,
Joel

 

Thank you Joel for the welcome and answers. So the first part and this may sound dumb but I am new lol. Shouldn't the drivers be up to date since its brand new?

Also I was looking into getting the Xbox controller just as a secondary because I'm use to using a controller. But your saying to learn to play off the keyboard?

Last I will most likely play on the laptop with no external screen but was also thinking about getting the HDMI cable and being able to connect the laptop to my tv screen just to play. Is that able to be done?

 

Linus did a review on the 17 R4:

 

he doesn't seem to care about the temperature difference under aida64, or the throttling...









@Papusan 3DM11 as requested

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12236529
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12236536
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12236409

fastest entry, performance, and extreme preset score for i7 7820HK/GTX1080 single (notebook)

@Phoenix @bloodhawk

 

Only 92C + throttling and the well known TRIPOD mess with nice 24C core temp difference. And Linus cant see it. He must be blind or doesn't care Have any reviewers ever got a well-functioning Aw model out of box for their reviews the last 3 year?


Btw. @Mobius 1 did yoo find a cheap key for 3DM11?
Edit. And if, where?

 

Most of these issues aren't well known outside this community and if they are it is from one of our community members. Those YouTube guys live in their own bubble and don't care much for the tech community around them. I haven't seen any laptop review on YouTube from one of the "big guys" that reports on core temp differential. That's one of the first gaming laptop reviews I've seen that Linus actually benchmarks games. He did a few gaming laptop reviews and never mentioned game performance. He's more concerned about how thin and light they are. Complains it's sooo so heavy. Maybe he should spend sometime outside playing and building a little muscle.

 

Linus is for the masses now. I don't know where that channel is headed. It's freakin' huge. They don't make conclusive reviews, nor comparisons, nor unboxings... It's just him describing stuff and lots and lots of b-roll... Quality has been downhill ever since they changed studios.

But I still liked to see the 17R4, specially because they also did a video on the 13 and 15 so it's a nice comparison from the same source, even if it's only skin deep.

 

Regarding drivers: Nvidia constantly releases updated graphics drivers for their graphics cards. They do this because new games come out that use different game engines and different graphics tech and the drivers must be constantly optimized for the new games. They also continuously work on optimizing drivers for already released games. So it's important to stay updated in regards to your graphics driver. You can always find the latest drivers for your graphics card at the following address: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx

Regarding controller: If your accustomed to using a controller then by all means get a good controller and go to town man. ;-) But also consider learning to use a keyboard and mouse as I think anybody who does any serious gaming will agree that, generally, a good keyboard/mouse player will dominate a controller player ... you just get a much more refined control mechanism when using a keyboard and mouse.

Regarding HDMI to TV: Absolutely. You can run out to your TV via HDMI ....

Enjoy the laptop man.

joel

 

Thanks again Joel great and helpful information. I will definitely learn and try to play on the keypad.
So regarding the driver, is that something I just keep going to that link you posted and update my current one if need be?Or is that something I would have to buy and swap out?

 

Truth is, if you have a particular driver installed and if everything is working fine and your games are performing as you'd expect them to? Then there really is no need to update to the very latest. Many people stay on older versions simply because they feel that particular driver version works best with their set up/games and they don't want to risk installing a new one (some times new drivers can have bugs or may need revisions).

So it's really just up to you. I, for instance, have been on driver version 378.66 for a good while and feel no need to update to the very latest (382.??) ... simply because my rig is running fine and all my games are running great.

Hope that helps.
joel

 

steam sale

got it for 1.6usd in my currency

 

Sorry, i was off for a few days, but these are the result at 4.4 first 20 min max high and low temp difference is 6c

http://imgur.com/a/ReMho

Test 2 20 min (done right after values reset)

http://imgur.com/a/6mJe3

Should I be worried? I used liquid metal.... so I am kind of worried lol

 

I got ya and understand makes sense. Last question for now. What is the best way to play games? For example: downloading them to the PC and playing off the PC or having a disk and entering a disk to play?

 

Could anyone direct me to information regarding panel replacement. I currently have the FHD panel and wanted to look and see if I could upgrade to a higher res and refresh rate panel.

 

He's almost as bad as the unboxtherapy guy. Honestly these guys are just ads and they won't get to critical of a brand so the free products keep rolling in. I don't even blame them.

 

wh

where do you plan to buy the new panel from?

 

dp/n: JYWWF for qhd v2

liars make the best salesman

 

The unboxtherapy guy at least is cool and chill. His channel was never about reviews, just showing and unboxing cool and weird tech.

 

I was wondering if someone could look at this, the difference between core 1 and core 0 is about 6c at 4.4 (set it at -0.15) Do i need to reopen it? put pressure on top left bottom left? anything would help.

 

Fair point. I do enjoy Lews videos from time to time.

 

Is it better to download games or but the disk? Also is there good and bad places to download them from? I see this place called Steam. I just need some guideance for when my computer comes in. Thanks guys

 

Hi,

The heatsink has 7 screws numbered from 1 to 7. I assume that it has to be adjusted in that order. My question is, should I adjust them to the maximum one by one or do it in two passes? First, place all the screws without tightening them to the maximum (following the order of the numbers) and then, in a second pass, adjust them to the maximum pressure. Do you understand what I say? Does anyone know the "torque" I should give to heatsink screws?

 

T

In theory, you should follow the order, and tighten in a second pass. But, tightening screws n°2 and 3 will lift n°1's side. What happen to the thermal past if you lift even a little the heatsink ? Yep, air gaps.

 

so? The best way is to fully tighten the screws in order in a one pass?
Sorry i did not understand what you said

 

Simply put, screws n° 2, 3, 6 and 4 should be tightened first. The past will be pressed in n°7, 5, 1's direction and fill the gap.
Then, n°7, 5, 1 should be tightened at last, in this order and in one pass, to avoid their side to be lifted when tightening the other screws.

 

See also If you are reading this, your input is greatly appreciated post 3.

 

thks @leeloyd I appreciate your help. I think I understood.

-First, screws n ° 2, 3, 6 and 4 full tightened in one pass.
-Then screws n ° 7, 5 and 1 should be fully tightened to last and in this order.

Easy... jeje (Sorry, English is not my first language)

note: In my previous 17r4 I tightened the screws in order 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and worked well without air gaps. It was lucky?

 

It depends, perfectly flat CPU, well manufactured heatsink and good sized pads lower the risk of the heatsink rocking, and as a result lower the risk of one side being lifted.

 

This Friday my new 17r4 (7820hk) arrives. I already have pads Fujipoly 17W/km and Grizzly conductunaut to apply. I will adjust the screws as you say.

The only thing I do not know, is what torque to use on the bolts. I think I'll use the same on all the screws.