*OFFICIAL* Alienware 17 R4 Owner's Lounge

The Razer Blade Pro has a 4K IPS with G-Sync and 99% of Adobe RGB color space.

Why can't AW just offer this panel for the GTX 1080 version.

 

Dell will offer it eventually. Each GSync panel has to be certified by Nvidia with each model, so just because Razer offers it Dell cannot until its passed the certification. For the same reason you can't get the Clevo P670RS-G with a 4k panel, even though they have it on the P775DM3.

 

Ok guys I went ahead and bought an Alienware 17R4 from Best Buy with the 120hz TN panel, I bought it from testing purposes and will return it once my order arrives. Until I read about the scan lines I did not notice them; but since ive been reading the thread they are there. They only show on static images and are very faint and unnoticeable if you arent looking for them. After reading all these post I know find myself looking for them everywhere; they scan lines are there if you start looking for them. Overall I really like this computer and the display is not bad; I wish I had a 4 k Alienware 17R4 screen to compare it to.....

 

Is that true? Is this an asumption, or there is a history of this happening? What kind of time frame are talking here?

If a 4k ips screen is coming, I'm waiting. I won't deal with a TN panel. Gsync isn't a deal breaker, but ips is.

 

Dell has said that they are working on a 4K non-gsync option for the 1080 but not to expect it before Christmas. So maybe January?

Source: Twitter

 

Its an assumption, but the panels exist, so they would be missing a lot of sales by choosing not to offer it once they can. My guess is by January all of the desired configurations should be available (except maybe a non-GSync QHD. I don't think that panel exists yet).

 

It might not come out until Kabylake


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wait i thought somebody had got one with the igzo AU panel? are all the 17' 4k panels sharp then?

 

hahaha

if it is a larger heatsink, I do hope it will reduce the temps properly on the CPU and keep the GPU cool. It's only the CPU that is having temp issues. My GPU on the AW 15 is cool (1070).

 

This is what I suspect. The last thing I saw on Kaby Lake (I think on the fb page) update for AW was quite a bit away. I also just saw netflix requires kaby lake for 4k on pc. This might be what I will have to wait on.

 

if its any more than 3-4 months into 2017... I might as well wait for Volta at that point.

 

Hey Devildoc, I just joined the forum after looking at your post. I'm also trying to get a good price on that laptop. Could you please hook me up with your sales rep? Thanks.

 

i noticed the 1080 option seems to be pulled from the us site??

 

http://www.dell.com/en-us/member/shop/productdetails/alienware-17-laptop/dkcwg05hcombo


they only offer the 1080 as option 5 now aka you have to get their max config of ram/ssd

 

ah didn't see that.

 

They also added the option of 6820HK to the 1070 120hz gsync option which is good at least.

 

does the 6700 bottle necks the the 1070? since they arent offering the 6820

 

They are offering it now.

 

link?

 

sorry i meant for the 4k screen not the qhd

 

Exactly what problem are you having? You can configure it with the 6820, 1070, and 4k screen just fine.

 

well if you call dell they give you a cheaper price than online, and dell refuses to sell me the 4k screen with the 6820hk.

 

It depends if Dell's engineers have "prioritized only the gpu side" on the shared heatsink for models with 1080

 

Could someone here that has an R4 with an FHD screen please use HWINFO64 to please tell me which panel they have?
Thanks

 

URGENT! ALIENWARE RESPONSE - TELL EVERYONE ONE. SPREAD IT.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/5elw77/urgent_alienware_response_tell_everyone_one/

Atleast they accept the problems and are fixing it their word, but take it with huge grain of salt

 

After this GTX 1080 fiasco finally made up my mind, and wanted to share my thoughts, as some might find it useful.
I already had my speculations when I first saw the new design that heat will and remain and issue, especially considering a very hot gpu like the gtx 1080.

Anyway, I will go with the asus g800.
It has an IGZO 4K panel that has an adobe RGB rating of 100% (so definitely not TN I reckon) AND has g-sync.
The chassis is definitely more bulky and looks less streamlined/elegant in comparison to the AW 17, but since I don't move my laptop around that often, it's not a huge issue. The 18.4" screen is also a nice addition, the larger the screen the better for such a high resolution.

Also that laptop has Great temperatures, Which is the benefit of having such a bulky machine. So no more need to tinker with thermal paste and liquid metal stuff, which is edgy stuff for me as I only applied thermal paste twice in my life, and that wasn't a laptop.

The mechanical keyboard is also a nice addition.

Verdict: (comparing it with the gtx 1080 version of AW 17)
Pros of the asus one:
- Larger and a lot better screen
- better (Mechanical) keyboard
- proper temp margin for overclocking both cpu and gpu
- more ports, (including digital audio, which I like)

Pros of the alienware:
- Already available for purchase
- Looks better and more elegant (subjective)
- RGB lightnings all over the place
- Significantly cheaper
- More compact both in size and weight
- slightly more customization possible when ordering.
- A larger community making it easier to solve issues if present
- Next day at home warranty (again if you have any issue with the laptop)
(Note: I don't think tobi eye-tracking is a pro, as I find it quite useless, but people might think different of course)

So yeah, This sums it up. I initially was planning to buy the Asus one, but after looking at some videos of the alienware 17, I still liked it and decided to stick with AW, but now with all these complications in terms of monitors and heat, I decided to step off and go back to the asus laptop after all.

Of course I cannot tell If I ever change my mind again depending on how things end up with the AW, like, great temperatures, kaby lake model releasing very soon along with 4k display etc. But for now my mind is pretty much set

Also, if you ask, why not consider other brands that offer gtx 1080, the reasons:
I find Alienware simply better in many terms, so I don't want to pay that much while I know there is a product I like more

The reason why I post this here is because I find this decision sad, after all I like alienware. And on a second note would like to hear you guys their thoughts on this decision. sorry for the long post.

 

Preserving the image of the Chat with AW, in case it "disappears"

 

If ur not moving around much than i would say that asus choice is not good rather buy a clevo 775 dm3 or the 870dm3 iirc from hidevolution that would be much better cheaper and powerful laptop.

 

18.4 inches / 13lbs and probably about $4000, different league then the alienware 17.

sounds nice tho

 

Definitely considered it, but damn hell, that thing is really Ugly AF. Very subjective opinion though. Otherwise indeed, the best choice basically. The customization options are ridiculous

Indeed, but the price is currently not a huge issue for me, even though I have to say it's very expensive, considering what you are getting in terms of performance/price. that's why some small doors remain open for AW if they can make a comeback.

 

The keyboard on the P775DM3 kills it for me. I used a P750ZM in the past which has essentially the same keyboard, and it was not a very good experience.

There is also the MSI GT73VR Titan Pro 4k-225, although it still has an inferior keyboard to the AW17 R4..

 

Meh.....Dell's customer service with their knowledge is spotty at best. I have already owned one of these and I can tell you how it is...it runs like a champ after a repaste. Dell's fault for using bad thermal paste to begin with is what drove this to the ground. CPU barley broke 70 and GPU barely broke 60 after a moderate overclock. The cooling solution is pretty damn good even compared to Sager/Clevo that are running in the 70's and 80's. I have full confidence that it has plenty room left to run just fine with the 1080. Really looking forward to it next week when I get it.

 

FYI, The GTX 1080 is released on the UK and other websites.
Now there is also a setup where you can choose the HK cpu, UHD monitor and the gtx 1080 (the latest one in the list, the 7th).
But it gives a compatibility error.

I don't have chat in my country, so contacted the UK one. And told them that I cannot select the UHD monitor there. And she told me, let me do it for you.
And he actually has overridden the compatibility error, and asked me if I wanted anything else. And he did it.
next he wanted my billing address, however me being from a different country, I cannot order it there. So It failed.

I will perhaps try to call dell of my country and see if they can do the same. Or perhaps any of you guys can try it out?

Though I expect the production will fail and they'll refund it.

 

With all of the 6820HK issues, are you not wanting to wait until January?

 

The 6820HK has problems on 15'' not 17"

 

The 6820HK has issues, period. The Alienware 15 just adds to the pile.

 

I will try and call, if they perhaps make a good offer, and such I could go for it. IF the issue is present, it still has a 30 day money back policy.
And I also see there is a cyber monday offer currently ongoing, so.

But I have to say I have my hesitations

 

While waiting for my AW17 1080 my china order arrived. I just measured all the inner dimensions, and I think we have a match made in heaven! (the 17inch version)
www.aliexpress.com/item/Envelope-Sleeve-Wool-Felt-Case-Laptop-Briefcase-Cases-Bags-With-Adapter-Holder-for-Alienware-18-17/32581952168.html
This will protect the AW nicely when getting in and out of my trolley at the airport security checks.

 

Hey, i just ordered the AW17 through a UK Dell Salesperson. No 4k screens unfortunately. That override that your salesperson did - the order gets accepted, and then a couple of hours later it gets cancelled (probably by the alienware workshop that compiles the laptops together). I tried that earlier and thats what happend.

So, i just ordered the non-4k screen, and all else max settings. Today is a good day to buy due to the Black Friday deals. My system came out at GBP 3121.00 in total on the website. The Sales Rep sold it to me for GBP 2,718.14 with discount. So - 400 GBP (about 500 USD) less than website price, which i think is really good.

If you want to call the same sales rep - his details:
Shirish Gokhale
Phone +441344 378887 Extn 3406195

Tell him that your friend VAS just ordered a system earlier today (he knows me, this is my 3rd alienware laptop), and he will hook you up with a good discount.

 

So, only option to get a GTX1080 is still to order it with a crappy (according to many) TN LCD panel?? Seriously Dell, this completely ruins the possibility for someone like me looking for a powerful laptop for productivity use (software development mostly) and occasional gaming.

 

If that's your primary uses, than why not get the 1070 variant, and get the 4K display (100% Adobe RGB), along with the 6820HK?

You don't need the GTX 1080 do you?

 

Quick question on the screen. Can't decide between the IPS 1080p and the TN 1440p. Which one would you guys recommend and why? Not really interested in the 4k because I think it'll be a bit much. General purpose utility, so a bit of gaming, but also lots of Netflix and movies. I don't have a TV, so this will be my primary screen.

Also, how did you guys get additional discounts? Every time I try to chat with AW support and ask for discounts, they tell me no...should I be calling instead?

 

best screen overall is the 4K. Best screen just for gaming is the 1440p.

 

Is it, though? From downscaling issues, to the lack of 4k support on most games, to the fact that it's a 17" screen, to the overheating and longevity issues? Not trying to be negative, but just really trying to get a sense here. Also, what do you guys think about G-Sync vs. non g-sync? Is a MSI/ASUS system with g-sync worth it for the 1080p resolution?

 

I chose the 1080p FHD screen due to the fact that it will last longer when it comes to gaming. 4K sounds great, but how long will you be able to game at the best settings in 4K? I say grab the FHD screen and the AWA with a 1080 GTX or next gen graphics card and game on a much larger external 4K screen. I also think that the 4K is somewhat wasted on a 17" screen. But I also think it is a personal preference and its up to you on what you should buy. Pick something that you will be happy with. I chose the Alienware laptops due to having the AWA and being able to run an external graphics card as well.

 

Did you notice any lightbleed issues? Have heard that about the 1080p screen. Also, which panel 1080 do you have? Have heard that the Sharp is crap...

Also, what was the price you paid for your configuration?

 

I will tell you when I receive it haha. It is on the way. I was hoping to have it by now, but it took well over a week to ship. Well I paid $1975, but they dropped the prices last week the day after I bought it and I was able to get another $100 off by contacting Dell about it. So $1875 after that discount, plus I got 5% Dell cash rewards ($98) and $40 bucks back on my credit card. I wish I could have gotten the 12% back through the Ebates haha. I could have really maxed out my savings if I did that.

 

If the 4K on the 17" is as bad as the one on the 15" I'd much rather have the 1080p panel. 4K is overrated on a laptop.

And no one really needs the 1080 gpu but still want it

 

Why? Unless you really need the accurate colors.

 

Do you think there's a noticeable difference between the specific TN and IPS panels in the AW for watching Netflix, movies and the like? In other words, for non-professional usage?