*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Here is my 1080p Ultra in division 2 benchmark.
10400points

with the 1440p I get 6900.

Both were with OC 2 and Max fans in Alienware OC

 

Why so low? I get around that with my 2070 and 8700 on a 1440p monitor with gsync on stock settings and balanced fans. But your 1080p score definitely beats mine.

 

That’s my Firestrike Score:
CPU: -100
GPU: +150 / +150
I9900K RTX 2080
As said before I am a complete Newbi on OC

 

Max wattage was 141. Avg was around 50 in Firestrike

 

Can someone with the 1.3.2 BIOS and i9-9900K check what the PL1 & PL2 is in BIOS overclocking tab?

 

I dunno, maybe the 1500p somehow ruins it. Screen is not supposed to run on that resolution. What you guys think? Can it harm the 1080p screen if i keep running it at 1500p? It got unlocked a few days ago.

But the other guy had over 11000 points on 1080p.
And in Ghost warrior wild lands my avg fps 61. And this is like 20 fps bellow, what it should be I believe. I might have issue with this computer.
Do you have wild lands and can do bench?

 

they are the same chip minus HT.

PL1 and PL2 are both still 210W (210000)

 

I do not have wildlands on PC. Played that on PS4.

 

Shipping dates suddenly moved up to April 16 as of today on Dell.com. Was April 30 yesterday during the sale....

 

I think the intel shortage is starting to become under control. Or whatever shortages there were. I have an order in for an Area-51m with XoticPC and an order with Lenovo for a y740 15" and they both were pushed up significantly. Seems like end of march/early April a large wave of shipments are going out.

 

Alienware Area-51m BIOS v1.3.2

 

Really detailed patch notes there.

 

The only patch note for 1.3.1 was that it fixed a speaker issue

 

Arguably thats still more detailed than:

Fixes & Enhancements
Enhancements:

- Enhanced the performance of the system.

 

nearly 2h Division 2.

CPU@4,7@UV
GPU@1860mhz
Fan Performance profile



after 2 weeks with my A51m iam still impressed ^^

 

Yes, the temps this machine has while gaming is incredibly good. The only problem I've found is when running balanced fan profile and doing heavy CPU tasks. The machine just hits the 100C too fast. You have to keep fans on performance or Full speed mode, or it's no bueno on the temps for the 9900K.

 

Nah you dont need full blast. Even quiet is enough..

We will see. Changed to 5ghz and balanced Profile. Will report in an hour

 

Any support for the new processor steppings? Or support for memory speeds above 2400, perhaps??

 

So, anyone tried out if 1.3.2 actually does anything new? It's not 2666 ram unlock, that's for sure.

 

@GizmoSlip

 

Bumps the benches up a little and the combined score, but yeah first thing I checked was faster ram support and nothing; still at an ancient 2400mhz while slim cheap laptops at Walmart have 2666 lol


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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34956305?

A few more points in firestrike. Power limits are still greyed out in BIOS.

 

Pure speculation, but I did see there was talk of increased wattage headroom on the 2080, so maybe its that?

"Enhancements" is all the patch notes say, so I guess we will have to wait and see.

 

Finally. My mercury white lancehead and invicta came in to match the 51m




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My delivery date got pushed back from tomorrow (3/29) to 4/8-4/11. I asked what part was causing the delay and they confirmed it was the motherboard.

 

That happened via a vBios a few weeks ago

 

Y’all hear that? A revision of the motherboard.

 

For all the problems and bad experiences, I have to say that I'm crazy happy with my 51M. It's rock solid and I really enjoy it.

 

HID confirmed that mine had a blown MOSFET on the video card. I’m asking some followup questions and will report back.

 

Have any of you had success using the Awcc to overclock the 9900k? what undervoltage were you able to achieve? I am having a hell of a time trying to use XTU to overclock, I also have TS but the results were not good.

 

That would be me, and i'll just sit here and wait on ya. That run is with the much lower gpu score of 30,185K GPU score while my lower score was with a much higher GPU score of 30,771K.

 

Looks brilliant mate! What laptop cooler are you using? Do you find it helps much?

 

It only helps about 5C, it’s the thermaltake massive 20 RGB


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Same here delivery date of 3/28 I get an email the same day, oh by the way your not getting it today it’s being delayed till April 11th with support answering any questions as to why only that it’s still under review. The machine looks amazing but, I am reconsidering the investment in Dell at this time

 

Yup I saw. I'm almost to 30K GPU and the system is still stock. We shall see..silicon willing...

There are a lot of limiting factors with the Area 51M... the RAM cap is astonishingly impractical for such a system of this stature along with the bios, which the clevo doesn't have so there's a huge advantage there.

Whether this hits the numbers that I want or not, the simple fact of it getting close to the figures of an unlocked system speaks volume. Then you weigh in all the elements such as build quality etc.. and to a normal/average user, despite the short comings, it's easily hands down the best overall system to date.

I'm eager to just throw my 8086K in here already, but there's a lot of work ahead with the 9900K still ... This system with a 6 core is perfect and would make it easily the best well rounded system out there.

For the new comers who are reading about all this bench stuff, to clarify this doesn't determine if this system is good or not, rather it's just something that I'm curious about, if it can reach certain numbers ... This system is already past the stage of is it good or not. It's very good... is the 9900K the best option for the chassis? No. However, if you want something more practical just put in an 8700K, overclock it and you'll be golden with a monstrous system that's actually well built.

I'm looking forward to testing the 8086K in here OC'ed ... Once the 2TB Samsung 970 EVO Pro m.2 launches in April is it?... it'll be one 'heckava' set up ... oh wait, but that darn RAM... Oooff * Face Palm** oh well... it'll still function lol. For most people the RAM being capped isn't even a real world issue. But that doesn't mean that it's okay that it is the way that it is right now.

 

I think they changed something with sustained heavy loads on the GPU. Using the Furmark test from the GPU Test application in 1.31 with a 912 mV voltage max (+165/+1000), I could run it for over an hour at a 77 deg C max temp. On 1.32, after 15 mins with a 78 deg C temp, same voltage, insta-throttled down. FPS plumetted to 37 from 235, and the clock rate went down to idle clocks. Repeated it multiple times with the same effect around that time point. On 1.31, I could run it multiple times for over an hour without this happening. Just a random observation. It doesn't negatively affect performance for me on realistic loads like gaming or other benchmarks.

 

Maybe run Time Spy and compare with the results from Clevo P870TM
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6745576

Spoiler: P870TM

 

Yup I'll get to that for sure. As you know Time Spy is a whole different animal so that's a whole separate tuning session in itself.

The system is still stock right now. I want to test everything in its stock form first to get a good base line and also to see what it is capable of before repasting it.

I have everything mapped out in stages...

 

Did you look at the score?

 

Did you look at how many cards are running?

 

Oh' yeah Hence I posted. As well said look at the score.

 

Yes, but I can do this on a stock system as well. I did it on stock Sager bios as well. I can do it on an A51M as well. it's not just the machine it is also the user...

Also pulled damn near 30K on 150W Clevo Vbios. No Delid, or LM just ICDiamond on both cpu and gpu.

 

Yes, but why are you posting a score with 2 GPU's? How is that relevant?

 

It's a notebook. You remember the talk about *Worlds fastest notebook*? Also most upgradable.

 

Well, he sort of does have a point. LOL Now where can I find another gpu. LOL

 

Exactly. It's also the driver and not just the car, which is my point in pushing a stock system to its limits to see what it can and can not do.

What's your highest Fire Strike score with the Area 51M?

In terms of bios, I think what you've stated about systems being capable of pulling respectable numbers with stock bios says a lot about the emphasis that was being put on it being the end of the world negative when the Area 51M first came out. Of course we don't want to be locked out or limited, but at least it's not completely gimped to where it's laughable at stock.

The other point is that with the Area 51M already pulling graphics scores scratching 30K, this also doesn't make it a huge victory for something like the p870 to be doing a little past that. Something like 25K vs 30K sure... that's huge... but the Area 51M is right at the rear bumper in its stock form, so that's pretty impressive to see. - Real world difference wise, zero for the end user.

Again, I think it's important to look at the reality here. Overclocking isn't that hard and sure there's an element of the driver, but the factor of silicon lottery is ultimately the limiting factor, regardless of the driver..

That's why I don't put too much emphasis on "look what I did," as the main purpose of all this, but rather "hey guys look at what the Area 51M is capable of." ...

In my extensive write up I'll be pointing out the good and the ugly. So far so good...

Remember at the end of the day it's all for the love of the sport and for good fun ...

To that.. cheers brother.

 

Lol yes of course and we all know that was just marketing hype, but why are you posting a TS score with 2x gpu's and introducing things dug up from the past that doesn't pertain to what's at hand right now?

That's the real question... can you just stick to the topic and keep it practical? Thanks.

 

The one test I ran on the fly was 29,921 GPU or something like that.
Not sure how so when the Clevo Vbios is 150W
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/18659922
That is just shy of 30K, while A51M is already running at 190W Vbios. And it's running a 200W one.

With a 200W Vbios it is pushing close to 31K. And that is not designed for a Clevo. So imagine one designed for a Clevo.

As to lottery, most may depend on that, but i will never let the define me or my scores. You will never see me posting about why it's limited this and that or any other reasons for that matter. It's a just not meant to be situation is what I chalk it up too. There are plenty of people with great hardware, but haven't the slightest clue how to make it operate properly. So they pass it off as garbage. Seen this one quite a lot! So that is a two way street.

Its not about overclocking is that hard. it's more about what you are willing to put in determines what you get out of it. I have been ranked 7th in the United States at one point. And that was not by luck. One has to push when dealing with others who know exactly what they are doing.

As to the Clevo reference. The A51M has a long way to go in cpu overclocking department it's more than 2500 points behind. Top score is 29.1K, and since I don't have an A51M with 9900K at the moment, i'll need to wait and see if it can even reach 28K, hell 27K might be a serious stretch.

Also, it's not about a Clevo victory. If I had time with an A51M, best believe I would try to beat my Clevo. That is mandatory! That would be silly not to try.

I'm not brand specific, only what is going to produce the best numbers. I'm a bencher/overclocker. And some time gamer when time permits. And i spent my hard earned money on what I thought would be the best at the time. If the A51M proves different, then I would buy into to that.... but then, that's just me.

Edit: lets be clear. I'm in no way shape or form here to bash on Alienware. I will however bash on management and some of their decision, but that's just me again.

 

Marketing hype or not. There is still people out there which believe this is correct. Oh'well I shall not bother you with this anymore.

 

The numbers on the 150W vbios is impressive indeed. This again proves the point that great numbers are achievable even without a high vbios limit, which also again silences a lot of the nay sayers that talked up a storm on trashing the Area 51M for having such limits. - Again, I don't agree with the release of limited hardware, but the point that I'm making is very specific to what I've specified above. ie.. shutting the haters down and you've showed an example of that with the link you've provided above.

As for determination, absolutely. I can go 10-12 hours straight benching and working on maximizing the chipset...Trust me, I'm well aware of the dedication that it takes for this sport. I'm on vc with my contacts overseas at night (their day) while benching chatting it up while they are benching too... - My focus on benching is mainly on how far I can push a system in its practical form as a desktop or laptop and not in Frankenstein form, along with focusing on stability. Sometimes while I'm at it I'll bench it for benching sake, but you know how that goes... it can get addicting lol.

Silicon Lottery is a very real thing so I can't say that I agree with you on that one. It's not about using the limits of a given silicon as an excuse. I want to make that very clear. Whether you ever make mention of the limitations of a chip has nothing to do with the reality. A hard physical limit is a hard physical limit and there is nothing you can do about it.

The Area 51M doesn't have to beat the clevo for it earn its respect as a system. Clevo is only mentioned and compared to because it is the only other system that exists in this class of laptops. It also happens to be the one that the Area 51M is being compared to so that is what makes it relevant.

Brand wise amen to that. I too am not brand specific by any means lol and I think that's very clear from the systems that I own. I like AW for it's build quality etc... and despite its obvious short comings, there are many factors that make it on the short list for me for when it comes to laptops... remember it's not all about bench numbers, rather it's about practicality and what people actually use it for. When that is taken into account, there are a ton of laptops that are a good candidate for an average user.

I'm not sure if you saw my post in the desktop overclocking threads, but I'll post some highlights here from it to bring some clarity to this topic:

"Thanks brother. It's always fun to reach goals and even more so when they are exceeded beyond expectation.

One thing about me is that I stay in my lane and just do what I do when it comes to how I go about testing / benching.

I put a lot of respect in honoring the different classes / categories in the benching realm, because like my car analogy at the quarter mile track, a stripped down (different form) drag car with no door panels, dash and only one bucket seat is not the same as a fully non modded regular car both running respectable times.

ie... it's more respectable when you see that fully clothed car running 11 seconds down the strip with a Slurpee in the cup holder, because it has one haha...

Therefore, when I see fellow benchers post up something I first honor the class and am just as excited about it as if it was a kingpin card, because in reality it has to be viewed that way since that is the reality.

Benching is awesome and I love the sport a lot. I've made several mentions throughout the years how benching is no different than regular gaming, but IMO much more rewarding and comprehensive than gaming. Amen @Mr. Fox ?

Uploading a bunch of stuff for points on hwbot isn't everything, rather I focus on being within the top 10% within the respected category/class. That's good enough for me, but sometimes it's nice to see my projects top its class, which is pretty cool, but I make sure to stay humble about it and just stay in my lane.

When it comes to my builds I focus first on practicality, because at the end of the day it's for gaming and work tasks. At the same time it's fun to maximize its potential in its current form and if there's a strong performer, it's even more fun to pull that card/cpu out and to throw it on the test bench.

Even when I bin my chips for myself and others, one of the things that I do is to bin them inside of a closed case (also) to mimic a real life scenario with ambient temps. To me this is very important, due to how picky chips can be at certain overclocked speeds, especially at common ambient temps...

All in all I'm grateful to share the experience with other fellow enthusiasts and to help others get on their feet to enter this awesome realm of benching..."