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You probably have a bad paste job or bad contact to the heatsink. Worst case is bad silicon.

 

Yeah I have a factory paste job and will defintely need to repaste in the future. I’m seeing my 9700k at 4.8ghz even with a huge undervolt hit 90s in games that smash the CPU, GPU never goes above 80C in games. I’m fine with it for now though, I’ll let it cook in the 90s as long as it doesn’t throttle. Most games it stays in the 70s and low 80s. HID warranty has me covered


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Can someone help me figure out how to add this .icm profile to windows color management?

A user here posted a calibrated profile for the AUO panel (same panel i have) and i downloaded and installed it. It shows in drivers, but when i hit browse and add in color management, nothing happens. It just doesn't add it, i've tried multiple times, just not sure where to go from here.

 

@SacraficeMyGoat

In Microsoft Windows, after you download the .icc profile, you can simply right-click on it and select ‘Install Profile’. If you can’t add ICC profile that way – which can be the case if you have already installed a profile before and want to replace it, copy the profile to the following folder location where the ICC profiles are stored: C:Windowssystem32spooldriverscolor.

Next, open the Color Management from the Control Panel. Tick ‘Use my settings for this device’ option, and then ‘Add…’ the ICC profile. After that, go to the ‘Advanced’ tab where you will have to click on the “Change system defaults” first, and then you can tick the ‘Use Windows display calibration’ and as simple as that – that’s how to load ICC profile.

This method works for installing the ICC profiles for Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 10.

 

So i've followed those exact instructions, it DOES show the calibration profile within the drivers folder under C:windows/system32/spool/drivers/colors.

But when I click add > browse > select the profile, it does not add it. Not sure what else to try.. It doesn't show up anywhere in profiles on the color management page.

 

@SacraficeMyGoat

In colour management page tick 'use my settings for this device', then add (browse) the ICC, then select advanced tab, click change system defaults, add (browse) the ICC again, click on advanced tab, check 'use windows calibration'.

 

So when i go to color management, click "use settings for this device," i hit add/browse, click the profile, then nothing happens (as in the profile doesn't show up in the list at all on color management.)

 

@SacraficeMyGoat

Ughh. Had to reset wireless, my connection dropped LOL.

Okey, then try skipping the red part.

In colour management page tick 'use my settings for this device', then add (browse) the ICC, then select advanced tab, click change system defaults, add (browse) the ICC again, click on advanced tab, check 'use windows calibration'.

Edit: After all is loaded, click set as default profile.

 

Appreciate the help. Still nothing though. When i look through properties, windows recognizes it as an ICC file and shows default app as Color Management, so i'm not sure why it isn't working.. When i browse i can see it, but when i add it to color management, the profile is nowhere to be found.. I suppose i could try removing it and downloading it again and convert to .icm again as well and see if that fixes it.

 

@SacraficeMyGoat

ICC works no problem.

https://www.mysn.de/driver/1_XMG/XMG_P407/Farbprofile - Display Profile/How_to_install_iccprofile_win10_ENG.pdf

Edit: Use 'browse', if it is not in the list and point manually to the ICC file location on your hard disk.

 

Unfortunately nothing is showing up still. Even tried redownloading it and converting it to .icm again. Guess i'm just stuck calibrating it myself with my eyeballs or sticking to the default profile. Appreciate you trying to help though. Should any profiles be showing when i first open color management, and select 'use my settings for this device?'

 

@SacraficeMyGoat

Okey, let's go PM, I will guide you step by step. It simply works. Otherwise when I wake up, moderators will shoot me.

 

Is anybody is planning for direct die cooling ?

 

I know 1-2 people mentioned it, haven't heard any updates on it yet. Hopefully if it does work they'll let us know though!

 

So here we go! This is the thermal pad job that my Area 51-m (9900K + Rtx 2080) came with.

Can you see the size of these thermal pads and how the person doing the job has cut corners by placing SMALLER pads on the power components leaving a substantial part of their surface completely neglected?




This is a part underneath the DGFF card where two different kinds of thermal pads are simply slapped together ! This is such a waste of FujiPoly thermal pads when it's paired with a cheap blue pad that is worthless.



Here is side by side comparison of what it came with and what I'm about to put on it.



Nice and clean and ready to go:



CPU delidded and prepped for liquid metal with some metal polish:





All done! After letting the silicon adhesive dry for a while on just couple of corners on the CPU re-lid tool, I manually closed the remaining gap between the IHS and PCB with a tiny match stick dipped in silicon to close off any possible ways for the liquid metal to seep out. Here's what it looks like:



And now everything runs great! The only annoyance for me was that when I pulled out the DGFF card, I ended up unplugging the DGFF cable a little bit which forced me to open it all back up to re-plug that thing as I was having no display. And then there was this annoyance with the RAM not getting detected because I kept the battery out for a while perhaps. But after a reset with factory ram sticks, I was able to get my Ram back. All 64 beautiful gigs of it.

Job finished at around 5 in the morning lol. As a quick test, I ran cinebench and got brilliant scores (4858 with temps lurking between mid 70s to early 80s) and with a stable undervolt of 115mV, the 9900K is running stable with boost set to 5 GHz with temperatures lurking in mid 70s. This is so much better than mid 90s that I was getting before with the same settings!

For thermal paste, I used Kryonaut. Thought initially of going liquid metal on top as well but since I lug this laptop around, I figured it's not as safe to do that in my case, so left it alone with Kryonaut. The temps are VERY satisfactory so I am going to call it a day and live happily ever after with my games and stuff.

Edit: I have no idea who deleted my pictures from this comment before, but I have re-linked them here for reference.

 

Nice work! A lot of effort went into that lol. Glad it paid off.

Does the 2080 have thermal pads underneath? Does it also have a plate underneath?

Just curious as my 2070 doesn't have any pads underneath, nor does it have a plate. But I could have sworn I saw somewhere that the 2080 had a plate on the back.

 

Yes the 2080 has a plate as well as thermal pads underneath as you can see in the second picture above in my comment. But it is no good if it comes with a cheap thermal pad job like in my case. I asked the reseller to "upgrade" to fujipoly thermal pads and the genius doing the job simply slapped a 0.5mm FujiPoly thermal pad on a cheap blue thermal pad that was already on there! This is how they cut corners and when people push their systems hard without any mods, they end up on the shelf.

 

Yikes! Yeah that's not okay. Lazy effort on their part.

I wonder if I can buy this plate seperately from Dell to put on my 2070. Happen to know the part number?

I know the 2080 uses more power, and thus outputs more heat, but I wonder why they didnt put this on the 2070 as well.. I mean, it's a small piece of copper? Probably cost them less than a dollar to make..

 

The first pic, my lord. Look how much thermal paste the reseller used! Way too much, insane amount of spill over


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I think the 2070 doesn't need that plate because the thermals are totally OK as far as I can tell. And I'm not even sure if the 2070 DGFF has the mounting bracket for this plate as it goes in with 2 screws. It's not just slap on kind of heat sink on the back. I guess first check what your DGFF underside looks like for the 2070. If there is a fitting available then you can think of buying next.

 

I know right?! And it had already hardened in less than a week of use. I'm not sure whether Gelid GC Extreme hardens that quickly as that's what the re-seller claims to put on there. I'm a kryonaut user so this was something that was new to me. Kryonaut doesn't harden up this quickly.

 

Alright thanks! I'll have to check next time I pull it apart.

 

Good job, for the perfect contact..put paste, put heatsink, tite the heatsink and check trmps and pads if thry make contact and was better to cut one piece like this..

 

I like to keep the thermal pad pieces a bit bigger than needed as it is easier to cover the entire area of the component surface without worrying that it will slide off just enough to burn the component while putting the heat sink on. Thermal pads are so cheap. I don't know why people buy such huge laptops and then cheap out on these petty but crucial expenditures. Everyone should do this job on their laptops if they really want to enjoy what they have bought.

 

Did you just buy .5mm and 1mm pads? I've been wanting to do this but I'm still unsure of the amount I need. It's around $12 or so for a 50mmx50mm square. Which seems REALLY small.

 

You dont need 5mm, if you put 5mm the heatsink will not toutch the gpu/cpu

 

There's a decimal in front.. lol

 

I bought 2 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZSJQLME/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and 2 of these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZSJQDYA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The seller was nice enough to give me one extra 1mm pack so I got a total of 5 packs. But I only ended up using half of one 0.5mm pad and one of the 1mm pad with a little bit extra from the second pack. The 0.5mm pad was used to thicken up the DGFF underside contact as 1mm was too thin for it; and on the immediate left side of CPU socket (by left I mean the side towards the battery connector on the motherboard). So if you buy 1x0.5mm of these and 2x1mm then you'll be good to go. However, I'd recommend that you buy these in bulk with at least 2-3 times what you need right now. It helps tremendously in the future as you don't have to wait when it's the time to re-paste things again.

P.S., This is something that you do only once a year or so, so I'd recommend getting the FujiPoly ones as their heat transfer capability is hands down THE BEST in the market without being too excessive in cost.

 

Good Job bro! I would like to see some results CB R20, R15, Battlefield Temps? Stock and 5g? A HWinfo screenshot would be great! 72 Degree @4.7ghz Cinebench R20 sounds unbelievable If that is real i will redelidd with copper IHS

 

I will get into benchmarks on the coming weekend when I have relatively more time. Even this too I had to start at 10 in the night and end up spending all night on it lol. But I'd recommend the delid with copper IHS if you have a 9900K anyway. The difference in temps is too much to give up, especially considering the form factor of this machine. Also depends on the luck. I know some guys who got hot lemons that thermal throttled even after delid haha! So you need luck in this case as much as some liquid metal.

 

what IHS have you ordered? Can you provide a link?

 

This one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FFMMMSD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Limited stock. Just keep in mind though that this is an 8th gen IHS so you will have to seat it properly with silicon as the dye height is taller for 9th gen chip. If it was available at the time of buying, I would have ordered this instead:
https://rockitcool.myshopify.com/products/copper-ihs-for-9th-gen

 

nah i will wait for your HWinfo pics before ordering

 

Thanks for the detailed response and letting me know how much I need.

Going to look around a bit, as I dont really have $100 to drop on pads. Might go with something a little less extreme. Something between Arctic pads and Fujipoly extreme.

Edit: Think I'll go with the regular Fujipoly Extreme. Quite a bit cheaper. Would cost about $45 for 2 x 1mm and 1 x .5mm.

 

I'd personally prefer the 17w/mk rating over any price tag as that's what matters. If you can go higher than that though, that'd be even better.

 

i use ARCTIC Thermal Pads. I dont buy pads for 10x the price...lol

edit: lol 100*15mm 25 dollar+shiping Fujipoly <-> 145mm*145mm Arctic 18 euro shipping incl. ... Thats more than 10 times the price XD

 

Maybe when I upgrade to the 2080

 

The engineer change with a new heatsink which came with paste on it, and he make sure the heat sink was tight and well, perhaps the paste that dell puts is not great at all, but since they are facing lots of problem with overheating they should have a good paste I believe.

 

I would be cautious with the extreme thermal pads - I have the 17Mw Alphacool thermal pads on my 1080's and they have started to crumble, from looking at prices the guy who owned the laptop originally splashed over £200 just on these pads for 2 sets, just my 2 cents worth...

 

Nothing that "they" do is good, doesn't matter who "they" are. Only what "you" do is good because you know it and you make sure of it.

 

That doesn't make a difference as long as you do not use them over multiple times after they have dried up. Thermal pads end up drying out and they are fine as long as you do not pull things apart on a regular basis. That's why you have to have a stock of thermal pads at home at all times if you are an enthusiast.

 

where did u buy your laptop from?

 

I bought mine from HIDevolution and according to Dell, this is the second "upgraded" batch with changes made to the GPU to prevent further future hardware failures.

 

So FYI, In order to save time. I simply installed the samsung 970 pro I had from when the laptop died into the new replacement.
Windows gave me upon boot the a message along the lines "configuring". It's a message I have seen again when I was younger, when I picked a harddrive as is from one laptop and put it into another. I suppose windows tries configure itself to possible changes on the new laptop.
Even though the laptop had exact same configuration as the one that died, I still got that message, probably because it's different physical parts after all. Though don't know if that in terms of drivers/configuration changed anything.

So windows booted up. First thing I did was start dell support assist. Which showed my previous service tag. So I removed it and reinstalled it. Now it was fine.
I Checked for updates, there was chipset and Bios updates available which I installed.
Bios was of course on this machine back to RAID. By switching to windows safe boot I switched to AHCI again. and my samsung 970 Pro was now properly recognized by the Samsung application.

Alienware command center had an update. It wanted to update but failed each time. So uninstalled it, and installed the update manually afterwards. So that is fine too.
Apart from that everything was good, no issues. Everything working as it should be so far.

Also windows 10 didn't need re-activation, it was activated.

Also about that chipset update. Ever since I switched to AHCI, that was also on my died laptop. The chipset update keep re-appearing upon checking for updates on dell supportassist. even though I installed like a couple times.

 

that corner cutting cooling "upgrade" job was from HID?? that's really bad considering their reputation and you are paying a premium for their services. stacking thermal pads is the last thing to be expected from HID considering how highly @Ultra Male recommended HID. what's going on HID? QC & reputation seemed to have gone down the drain @Donald@HIDevolution @Ted@HIDevolution

 

i remember one guy in this thread wrote about HID comparing to Dell: you get what pay for.... yeah sure... buy cheaper from Dell, repaste in 30 mins -> same job done, XXX bucks saved

eidt: found it:

 

And guess what? I paid extra for this upgrade. 30 bucks to be precise. I could have saved those bucks and had done it myself but I thought of giving them a try due to shortage of time these days. I ended up doing it anyway as I didn't have a choice due to horrible thermals on the system when it arrived.

 

Have you got any help with that? I have the same issue here!

 

Yeah I've read that they can crumble. Seems the lower rated pads last longer and dont really dry up, which is probably why Dell uses them.

I mean in sure the regular Arctic pads would be quite an upgrade over the stock Dell pads though.

I have to buy two sets though for both laptops, it would be even pricier. Maybe I'll just use the Fujipoly in mine and buy Arctic pads for my wife's, since she doesn't do anything crazy on it besides game @ stock settings.