*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

WOW.....

You would think a great selling point of a 2060 config would be the great thermals and lower noise using the beefier HSF. But Dell being Dell races to the bottom cutting corners everywhere.....

My ideal model would bea 8086k/8700k delidded (obviously swapped in) and a 2060 with the top tier HSF and systemboard for optimal cooling and noise reduction. This doesn't fly for me.

 

Heavenly Mode

 

It's hard locked @ 2100 by Nvidia.
Don't think you can go above that.

 

Yes but Heaven makes you happy for a while when you see those insane clocks lol. Perhaps I should edit that comment for the readers (although I mentioned Heaven in bracket).

 

Not exactly what you said

 

Jumping between 2040-2060 stable at 1V. But I don't use this profile. This is just for testing purposes. I keep mine at 1950 MHz max at 937mV at all time because the performance + stability is super at those speeds.

 

There is an Edit feature here which you can use to correct mistakes/add stuff in your comments. Give that a try, it's quite handy.

 

No needs to be salty man

 

He was in a heavenly trance

 

Ahh u guys always serious , damn , no fun in just been funny and chill, so much anger probably due to the cost of this machine and all the issues ......lol.... lemme go play with my kids and have some good laugh

 

A picture of the DGFF connector pads on the blue motherboard that I captured. The significant color difference on the metal pads is very visible and indicates lower quality metal has been used in the manufacturing process that could contain a lot of impurities, leading to signal noise.

 

I think Dell either cut corners in manufacturing or cut corners in manufacturing

Or has zero QC over the various plants that produce the parts for the 51M

 

My 1yo daughter is making her stuffed rabbit type on my keyboard with it's nose while telling me to stay back. hahaha gotta love kids! I remember when we were young, this kind of machines were not even possible in the wildest dreams. Our kids are lucky!

 

Hyperdrive mode?
Any suggestions on testing units to the max to try and see if it fails?

Could you also PM me?

 

The green PCB is also from Dell which is super high quality. The contacts in that looked like as if they were gold plated. Really solid, they had a nice finish to them as I saw with my zoom lens. And they were consistent. Also, I noticed that the motherboard was itself better "finished" as it was smoother to touch, had a better finish overall on flat areas and felt a little heavier (not much but it was noticeable). I think the contractor that made this for them is probably the same one who makes boards for their ultra books or G series machines. I am speculating here though.

 

Should I return my Alienware 51m for a Razer Blade 2080 MAX Q with 240hz screen?

 

No. This is an AMAZING machine. Just enjoy it. If anything goes wrong, warranty will take care of it.

 

Yeah do that even you loose performance at least you’re save from this Russian Roulette things. Apparently you’ve need some laptops degrees to manage Area 51M, saw yesterday others two today here’s from Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/bpcmlo/alienware_area_51m/?st=JVQT92YT&sh=4f0a89ed

 

Present day kids are living the dream , they use iPad as basic tools , when we didn’t even know what a “computer” was back then , they stream music , we did turntables lol... the way they even ask questions will tell u they r more exposed than us , their own kids will also make them look miserable when the tech of the future compares to today’s tech , then we shall be in the old chair , smiling and reminiscing

 

This kind of problems can happen with any laptop on the market. And we have an official announcement coming from Dell in a couple of days so I'd say just be patient at this point and see how things move.

 

Only problem with the Blade is the screen is only 15".

 

Then it shouldn’t be far fetched if dell gave out a caveat for specific service tags to return their machines for a revamp ?

No

 

15" is too small for gaming imho. And the performance on that machine is nowhere near this one. The only other laptop that runs toe to toe with this is the clevo machine with 9900K and 2080 inside. The MSI Titan with a 9980HK and 2080 is also one fast behemoth.

 

Really good to know, but they should do this earlier. Not after dozens or maybe thousands users have spent their a lot money.

There’s new pro17 2019 release soon, but yeah another maxq.

 

Who knows what they will do. It's Dell after all.

See this post from @Donald@HIDevolution: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1091#post-10911159

 

but the prettiest is the Alienware

 

I don't understand why some people say you must need to repaste and repad. I'm using it stock for gaming and have not played a game that caused the cpu+gpu to throttle. It never even goes above 80degrees on performance profile.

Also the repasting and repadding won't help you if you have a model with bad components that burn out. I understand if you want the maximum out of a laptop you do these things but it is in no way "needed" if you just use it for gaming. My opinion anyway, still going strong after 2 months and curious to see what dell is going to do.

 

Thanks but don’t worry I see this thread almost every day

 

No doubt, but MSI is the most rugged of these all. I owned one until this year and it never looked old even after 2 years of HEAVY use and lugging around in backpacks daily with other stuff inside as well. Probably because of brushed aluminium finish on the lid and rubber palm rest. The keyboard on that thing is by far my most favorite to this date! And speakers as well.

Every chip has manufacturing differences, every laptop has a different person putting it together in the labs and everybody is different. Some do a terrible job, some do a nice job. Using a gaming machine in this day and age without repaste is like playing a lottery. Sometimes you win, sometimes you waste plenty of time until you learn the lesson. This might not be the case with smaller companies selling laptops but when huge corporations sell stuff, their Q/C is VERY difficult to maintain at 100% at all times and chances of failure are relatively higher because there are so many people involved.

 

You've always been a straight shooter Donald. I haven't been in the market for a new system for quite some time, but I've sent numerous friends, family and gamer guild members your way and they've all been quite satisfied with their purchases (while also reducing my headaches ).

 

Same here I agree with you I was using it stock just for normal gaming use nothing crazy. I’m no expert but I kept an eye on my temps a lot and rarely let the machine go over 80 and it still burnt out.

For the amount of money I paid for this machine it should be able sustain heavy and extreme gaming use. I shouldn’t have to do any modifications just so it runs properly.

 

I’ve 9700/2080 running latest BIOS ans I managed to undervolt the CPU using AWCC/OC but couldn’t find a way to undervolt the GPU! Any help would be highly appreciated
Thanks in advance

 

AWCC is not very accurate at doing such things + the limits it offers are not according to your specific chip but a general limitation. It limits the undervolt to -100mV while my CPU undervolts at stock clocks at -155mV. Yours could be even better. A much better choice is to use Intel XTU for CPU and msi Afterburner for GPU. AWCC is only good with FX and fan control.

 

I received a mail today from Dell's swap service.

As they got no clue of when the RTX 2080 will be available on the french (or E.U) catalog as an option for the Area 51m, they proposed me to send a credit note of the total amount of my original setup... if i can't find the RTX 2080 on their website they said i'll be able to convert it as a refund.


I accepted... all this stuff is taking too long... first buyers (and others??) should think twice now as that kind of option is IMHO the best for the moment.

I'll keep you up to date here if i choose to spent this credit note with Dell or get the refund.

 

Damn I missed out quite a lot, what is happening?
Where and when did you get your laptop? Was it the 2nd batch? do you happen to know?

Do we know or can at least strongly guess that there is something still wrong with the 2nd batch of RTX 2080? Or is it really a stock issue?

 

2070 seems to be the most safe option, keeping a high performance level without risking 2080's problems. And with lower temperature.

 

There will be a public statement of some sort in the next 48 hours

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1091#post-10911159

 

First batch i guess : received end of March ordered with HIDevolution.. read the post of Donald from HIDevolution a few pages from this one : you'll have the latest informations about this...

I think it's either a stock issue or the natural delay due to the n-batchs they are trying/studying...

That's why i choose to trade my laptop with a credit note :

If the RTX 2080 is later available on the french market i'll be ordering it... if it's not after some weeks i'll ask for a refund and think again...

 

Yes. Me too. Im still in return period for HIDevolution. Should i be concerned?

 

Regarding Dells public statements based on what we've heard and witnessed already...

.... To be perfectly honest, in my humble
opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view and by trying to make it objective, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say ..... Damn.

 

Best comment

 

I hope you get what you paid for or get your money back. If I were you, I'd ask Dell to replace everything with the second generation batch parts but considering the lack of 2080s out there, it could be a long wait.

 

I think that's just your OCD kicking in Bro...

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Here in France / E.U i don't think all those informations reached them... they don't even know when and why the 2080's are out of stock (consering they're not lying.... ) so... imagine asking them to replace everything with new version if they have no idea of what you're talking about...

And i'm talking with a (quite) 2 months of wait / hours of call with differents technicians from Premium Support and many mails sometime for nothing....


I'm getting tired of all this stuff... that's why i accepted the credit note / invoice...

If 2080s came back on French/E.U market there's a very high chance with a lil bit of wait (again....) we'll be provided with release version 2 or even 3 (who knows...) of the graphic card board and/or of the MB...

If there's not update for E.U users : i'll be asking to convert my credit note to a refund.

And for sure i'll backup all the latest mails i've received just in case...

 

Nope. The camera can't catch what my eyes can see, and I wish I had taken pictures of the other MB that I have in my laptop right now (may be I will when I open it again later for kneaded eraser installation on the CPU before putting LM on it). This is impurity in the metal that is being used in this board. I have made enough PCBs to know what this kind of stuff can do to the performance of high end power hungry devices like phase change amplifiers and solar charging controllers etc. But you can take it with a grain of salt because I haven't seen another piece of the same blue batch motherboards so we could or could not see the same thing on all of them. People generally send their failed devices back right away instead of investigating them which leaves us with no substantial amount of data on them. Besides, OCD is needed when designing and analyzing complex circuits that house chips running at 5 GHz and above.

 

Two comments:
1. The MSI RAIDER laptop do not use Max-Q. Max-Q is only used on the thin and light GS Series.
2. We have a new king...check this out - https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8895/hp-ex950-2tb-ssd-review-best-nvme-available/index.html. Faster...and WAY cheaper. Also, the Samsung EVO PLUS is faster in most sizes to the Pro...and cheaper.

 

Only some parts of EU and Asia are getting revised parts and majority still get old defective parts.

 

Yeah they are fast and power efficient. Even SX8200 Pro and other SM2262EN offers similar performance and you often get confused which to choose. Only issue is lack of documentation for FW updates. At that price point, its not really a concern.

 

if u see it before me, pls shoot me a message, thank you

 

Do you have the 2tb available ?