*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

I have asked before and don't think anyone answered; do you think the 9700k with 2070 would handle an ultrawide 3440x1440 monitor? Or is anyone using one with the A51m already?

Would you be likely to get poor FPS in AAA games or would it manage the 100Hz refresh rate of the monitor?

 

It depends upon the workload that you are dealing with. Sometimes it will, sometimes it won't. Especially in CPU intensive games, the 9700K will be left far behind by the 9900K.

 

Would you imagine the FPS to be quite low on AAA games at the max settings then?

 

Depends upon individual games. If the CPU comes up short for them, you will lose some FPS on high / ultra detail settings.

 

2080 is back on french shop

 

Hey mate, watch this video:



The performance difference between the 9700k and a 9900k while gaming is negligible 99% of the time. In fact, in his 4k video rendering test, 9700k edges out 9900k by a few seconds and it shocks the reviewer too. I've seen many videos on YouTube (almost all of them) comparing the 9700k to a 9900k and 9700k has, by far, the better price to performance ratio in all of those reviews.
Most users in this thread are choosing to use their 9900k at 4.6Ghz undervolted to -.125mv anyway so I don't see the point of getting a HOT 9900k for this chassis. As I've stated earlier, I will run my delidded 9700k at 5Hgz as my daily driver and I'm sure it'll give me an edge is most CPU demanding task I throw at it.

In terms of 1400p gaming, I highly recommend the RTX 2080 model as it'll definitely has an edge over the 2070. Also, Dell has already raised the TDP to 200W for their high end 2080 bringing it to 5% within its desktop variant while have promised to do the same for 2070 but we all know by now Dell and their promises don't exactly coincide. Their promise to raise the ram frequency to 2666Mhz (which their xps and g series already runs at by default) has been forgotten by everyone in this thread including Dell themselves.

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Thanks for this, will give the video a watch. Yeah I'm starting to think the 2080 will handle that resolution much better and I won't be left regretting the 2070.

 

Save the money, go with the 9700k and put those savings into a 2080 for sure.
The video I've shared is one of the rare ones where the reviewer gets a 9700k based 51m, benchmarks it, upgrades to 9900k, benchmarks that and gives us the results. So, it cannot get more clearer than that. I would've put the timestamps and screenshots here but I'm at work sadly and cannot risk it now.

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Ok ok ok...

Now the RTX 2080 is available on Dell's French Website.

Dell's community manager asked me if I wanted to have a swap with this new machine, I told him yes !

1 hour later got the 0€ invoice, this time with RTX 2080 and my initial setup !!

At least it was damn fast !!

Let's cross the fingers now, I'll keep you up to date here

 

You're lucky, on my side im dealing with the swap machine service, they need on average two weeks to reply to an email. Awful.

 

Lucky ? You got to be kidding me !

You know... that's now quite 2 months i'm dealing with Dell's services, community managers, Twitter, Facebook, HIDEvolution, ...

First mine was repaired with on-site repair... next day it died... then I had to sent it to Germany to Dell's workshop... finally they offered a swap... but I need to have my computer back because my parts (SSDs and RAM) were still inside the computer i've sent (as they requested)... by the time they send it back to me, the RTX 2080 became unavailable to order.... then they offered quite a week later to do a credit note/refund... then the RTX 2080 became available once again and I'm here finally !

Don't loose hope, keep insisting, send as much mail as possible...

What helped me a lot, even if I can't still believe it, it was Dell's community manager on Facebook, this guy boosted my personal case alot... if only I knew it sooner...

Edit : Received the order confirmation... ETA : June 28, 2019... LOL

Well... at least I think that will give Dell ENOUGH time to put the second or even third revision of GC or MB in my swapped unit

 

Sharing that video is more than enough help, thank you. Don't be risking your job/work for some internet stranger haha. Thanks again though

 

Anyone knows if there is a color calibrated profile available for the AUO display?

 

I think this is what you are looking for - http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...80ed-spyder5elite-calibration-profile.828303/

 

Reminds me of a Croupier closing a table to high wagers, only to have another one opened when you begin to walk out with your stack of winnings.

You almost made it out the door with your stack intact...

Let it Ride!!

 

That's a good one ! You find the right metaphor here ^^

 

This looks like it's for the 15" panel. I don't know how it works for the 17.4" versions, someone please test it out?
It will be nice to have a calibrated profile for both LG and AUO panels somewhere. It'll be of great help really.

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Well bad news. My laptop may be the next one to have a 2080 die. I’ve had it plugged into my graphics amp for a while with no issues. Now I go to boot it up off of it at my client’s site and the first two times after getting to windows the screen just went black and the keyboard stayed lit but does nothing. Once I got to device manager and it said the 2080 was disabled due to windows encountering a problem.

If I call dell support does anyone have tips on how to get this resolved the fastest.

Now I waited 3 seconds at the login screen. Just went black again.

 

This doesn't sound good at all brother, sounds like another RMA is on it's way. The symptoms are too similar to the dead ones they've been reported here in the past.
Contact Frank directly through Twitter DM, it will escalate the RMA process. Also, ask for upgrades because Dell needs to know that they cannot deliver subpar product for a $4k asking price. At least, their service should be satisfactory. Ask for big upgrades even if you don't need them. Good luck

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While sometimes using a color profile found online can kind of improve colors, one should not consider their display calibrated.
It is impossible to use a profile from another display and have it calibrated because each display's color characteristics are unique like a fingerprint.
In many cases it can make things worse. So if you load the color profile and it does not look good that is why. Even if it does look good it still is not calibrated to your display.
The only way to get it correct is to use a calibration tool I your specific display.
I have calibrated dozens of panels, many being the same monitor and each one is different. Just dropping some knowledge in case it was not known.

Is that your video?

 

A new update was released today for "Alienware Command Center." It was updated to v5.2.37.0 ,A00.

https://www.dell.com/support/home/u...wt64a&productcode=alienware-17-area51m-laptop

Anyone know what's been fixed or added? There doesn't seem to be a changelog for this one.

There has also been an update released today for "Alienware OC Controls" too, v1.2.34.1214, and that one was to support thermal and fan control on G5 5590 / G7 7590/ G77790. Probably new models of laptops.

https://www.dell.com/support/home/u...wt64a&productcode=alienware-17-area51m-laptop

I do love these new updates for the utilities. Even if it's just for polish improvements rather than for major features being introduced. It means they care about their product and want to improve things even after its release.

 

Good to know. I’m not sure I want to spend another ~ £150 for a Spyder5 pro though, so might check a pre-calibrated profile first and see if it improves the colors: might get lucky? Otherwise I’d consider getting one. Unless anyone knows a place where it can be calibrated for you for less monies than buying the tool yourself?

 

Well I’m still not holding my breath but I was able to get into windows normal mode, remove the 2080 in device manager and reboot. I’ve ran the superposition stress test and now I’m on a 3DMark TimeSpy loop to see if this thing is going to break. So far so good.

Again, I’m not holding my breath, but hopefully I can get through my client meetings.

 

Always worth a try. If you aren’t using your machine for color sensitive activities like photography or video editing you’ll more than likely be ok. If you do rely on color accuracy then you have no choice but to do a custom profile for your machine directly.

 

I have a credit card ready to order an Area 51 but I REFUSE to knowing its an inferior time bomb of a product. Its a shame because I want one and Im ready to buy. So Im looking for a plan B, probably an MSI. Get your stuff together Dell!

 

Based on the current delays, its pretty reasonable to expect that your system will have a fixed mobo and fixed GPU.
It would also appear that there is a light at the end of the tunnel regarding the delays.
Some international sites have the 2080 again. Some systems currently on order have gotten "delay" notices with updated delivery dates.

I would suggest it has a good investment because you can always calibrate your displays going into the future.
Also you could offer to calibrate people's displays locally for a fee. Win Win.
I would suggest i1display pro over the Spyder.

 

She's alive then! You might have dodged a bullet there. Most folks have seen an eternal black screen when their machines crapped out. It sounds like a faulty nvidia driver in your case. I would do a clean install using DDU and see how stable the screen becomes.

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I agree with you on this. Not all of us need a fully calibrated system if our work doesn't need a perfect color accuracy. I got lucky with my M17x with the notebookcheck's calibrated profile. It looks much better than the default one from AW and I've been using it since 7 years now.

Although, I understand what DeeX was saying regarding each panel needing a different calibrated for 100% color accuracy.

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So I've tried in the past to use DDU on this laptop and attempted to install the DCH or the Standard and both drivers would say "Not compatible with this Operating System" or something to that degree. The last time I updated drivers I had to load the ones from Dell's site, then you GeForce Experience to upgrade. Strange...

 

Boo! I just paid for this and it is now a few hundred cheaper due to memorial day

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Why think your 2080 died in the first place only because you were using a AGA that doesnt make any sense.

A internal gpu dies under load and stress which you clearly dont do when you are using a amplifier.

 

I'm curious, if you just ran games on your computer without under volt or overclocking, what would your temps be running at 4.7ghz? Would it be throttling?

 

These errors could not be fixed without increasing CPU Vcore voltage far beyond what is normally needed for stability, even beyond what would be stable with AVX prime95 (!), as these errors can happen at very low load and frosty temps. They were caused by an internal Intel CPU flaw with certain instructions causing flipped bits of certain significant bits (like the last bit of a group of 4 bits) or the second group, basically causing a "read" instruction that's supposed to read a value, to attempt to write to an area it has no permission to write to (and is not ready for), which crashes the game. If this bit is corrected, it generates a parity error and gets logged. Intel has already been contacted about this, as this is an internal hardware flaw. Apex Legends' code was somehow triggering these errors. It was always a similar instruction specific sequence that was making this happen.

The new patch worked about these 'set of instructions' that were triggering this bug, so you should no longer crash anymore. But it's possible other games in the future could trigger this as well.
Completely unknown whether this is related to internal microcode for Spectre/meltdown mitigations or not (even if the OS is not meltdown/spectre aware), as no one with Haswell or Sandy or older CPU's had these errors in Apex Legends. Thankfully it's bypassed now (the developer even mentioned me on the Apex patch notes....hmm)

 

it seems that the lunar white color is no longer available

 

Latest Alienware Area-51m Drivers (as of 21-May) with the correct installation order

Be sure to unblock the ZIP file before extracting it. For details on how to do this, see: "Are you sure you want to run this file?" [Yes or No]

@VoodooChild @custom90gt @Fire Tiger @S.K @nkc

 

You know I did a search for "Dell" in my emails. Amazing what I went through one year ago when I bought the AW17R5 for £3,400. After hours on phonecalls and support remotely desktop-ing in etc, very cleverly, I decided to return it within the 14-day refund period. They had offered to repair it or to send me a new one, but I would lose my 14-day return window. Then I bought another one for £3,000 (had some discount) which had same problems, more or less. Another nightmare of emails and calls, a totally nightmarish visit from the Dell "engineer" to replace keyboard and heatsink. Since then I have repasted a dozen times and I know I will still need to keep doing this repasting every few weeks. In all, a terrible experience.

 

It still is

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I mainly mention so people understand...
Someone might download a profile and load it only to see horrible yellow whites or something similar.
They might then think that color profiles are bad, or that the other user has a bad taste in how they like their color temperatures, or whatever.
Most of the times in those cases its simply the panel is not the same as the calibrated panel which lead to different color levels etc.

 

Question? What are you contributing to this thread? Criticisms are perfectly welcome anywhere here. However, once a person repeats the same exact thing over and over with seemingly no intent other than to be negative it then becomes counter productive.

Observation. There is no characteristic of ANY laptop that would require you to repaste dozens of times or have to repaste every few weeks. The only reasons you would have to do that are; 1. Low quality paste that loses thermal conductivity in a relatively short period of time was used. 2. The person applying repeatedly applies the paste incorrectly. If that is the case I would suggest hiring a local electronics shop to apply the thermal paste.

 

Has any tried prime 95 on 51m, that should be instant explosion , good mosfet or not lol

 

I have for 30 minutes at 5GHz for burn-in test when I first received it for each test.


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I can explain in more detail. For the last two weeks my laptop has been plugged into the Graphics AMP and never used outside of this setup. I had noticed that my laptop 2080 device in device manager had a warning on it, but just had (wrongly) assumed this was due to the Graphics AMP being installed with my 2080ti.

The first day I pull it off the Graphics amp and use it at a customers site it starts exhibiting symptoms similar to the failures that others had been experiencing. In the end, it appears to have just been a driver issue (for now) and I don't have anything more drastic going on. I didn't believe that my AGA caused issues. Does that clear it up?

 

A good question here to see if the cpu can do highvoltages and etc. Has anyone used the AGA to a RTX 2080 or RTX 2080TI to see is the cpu goes higher since the internal 2070/2080 is disabled at this point. and all cooling goes to dedicated to the cpu? and can it be overclock and the Vin is like the a desktop setup?

 

Did you keep an extinguisher close by... 30 is solid as far as am concerned on a laptop with monster parts ... Awesome

But am sure u won’t run Furmark, that’s instant death even to some desktop systems , I wonder what the programmer intended when creating such an application

 

I don’t know if our VRMs are hardcore enough

 

I find Furmark to be a pointless test and all it does is destroy instead of stress. It was how I fried my first gaming laptop’s 680m (Clevo P150EM). Never again.


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My CPU or cooling is a turd even after a repaste. I can't go much above 4.6 all cores without getting into the 90's with fans on full and a -.125 on cache and core. That's with my AGA plugged in.

 

I couldn’t agree more

 

Completely wrong.
This exact thing was happening on MSI laptops and people were using *Kryonaut*! Even in some cases, liquid metal.
Go ask @Ultra Male yourself. And I doubt you're going to win an argument with him.

So let me correct you:
3: Convex heatsinks combined with convex BGA CPU silicon=uneven pressure, uneven heat=high core temp differentials=dry out of paste on the two hot cores. Fixing that requires modding or sanding.

 

I maybe not be the VRAMs. See this twitter post https://twitter.com/gregory_craane/status/1121318382723391488. Well they replace the Resistor shunts the same ones you see in a full size desktop card.

Worse case scenario the problem is the components on the DGFF is that the design was rushed and the need to redesign the card. just they replacing the shunt tells me there the cards are not getting the optimal resistance or there is but much power being delivered. thus meaning the design is not complete and new rev needs to be released...

 

Furmark is design to burn your monster laptop beyond its limits. Why are we all using this software to "stress" it when it is not the right software to use because this is no A s**** auto-funtion to tells the software to stop? yes you will burn your 3grand laptop out via your burning it beyond it limits. Does anyone know why there is no 4k screen for this model? Well it seems pretty understandable "why" the is no such option. Even if they off it bed before or talked abotu offering it now we know why.