*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Hi guys.

Can someone tell me if this user is from NBR forum because this answer to my Tweet to Azor is.... kinda wierd tbh :

https://twitter.com/michaelf/status/1131640315796791296?s=19

The logic behind this answer make no sense :

 

The chips aka cores will run hotter but if the fans run faster/more often it will force more airflow over the components. That part make sense Same also if you use a notebook cooling pad with good/strong enough fans.

 

There is NO logic in this answer. He says lowering the temperature results in less airflow and so on... May be he didn't see the option in AWCC where you can run the fans at full throttle no matter what the temps are on the chips. If you run the system at Performance fan mode or Full turbo mode, you'll not have any issues with the airflow of the unit especially if you raise the back of the laptop.

Undervolting the chips is always a better solution especially when you've such high performing parts in such a confined chassis. Cooler components will always result in better performance.

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They are thinking like a desktop, where internal case is actively cooled.

Laptop chsis is not. Fans only blow air over the copper fins. Only minimal passive venting on bottom. Cooler CPU and GPU temps will only cause less airflow over fins.

Capacity of copper pipes and thermal pads will absorb heat at same rate. Without high CPU and GPU temps. Copper capacity will transfer from any contacted mosfets better

 

See my response above. Fans in laptop chasis only force air over copper fins, not motherboard. There is some minimal escape, but not much at all

 

Laptop is running idle at 38-42 on the cpu and gpu. Temps look good tbh might not repaste it or repad it. Got the factory image made backup made and going to undervolt and stress test it.

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Depends on the chassis design. PCH chips, half the ram and all ssd's is above the MB in Clevo P870. If the fan run faster, the cooler will those parts be.

One of the reason you can run the hotter NVMe ssd's in benchmarks with decent ssd temps.

 

I meant by this that his answer is kinda the same as telling me :

"well men don't try to improve the thermals on your laptop the normal way, because it will result in death of the unit. Instead just let the crappy thermal pads & paste of the original setup... even two years later when all the paste and pads will loose 99% of the efficiency..."

Since the beginning of all this story, i've heard a lot of strange things from users (or not) trying to defend the indefensible...

This post on Twitter and posts on NBR like "well guys if your computer is dying it's all your fault...because you tryed to push it way to far or you didn't repasted it"

Guys you know what's funny right now ?

The laptop i'm currently using is an old Alienware M14x i7 2820qm (something like that) that my company landed me.. it used to be mine before i sold it to my company... the administrator didn't repasted it... it's throttling 100% of the time with full fan 100% of the time...

And you know what ??? It's still working...

Yes, I know it's not the same scale as the AW 51m as it's laptop part and not LGA but hey... I never felt with this unit that I was supposed to open it before doing anything with it or else it would dye in the next two weeks...

Don't misunderstand me here... i usually repaste and take a very good care of my laptops... i always succeed to sell it... and no one ever told me their unit died... i've own AW M14X M17X Aorus X7 (two of them) Aorus X9 (sli)... and the only two last units were the beginning of the problems :

Alienware 17R5 (overheating and a lot of throttling even with repaste)
&
Alienware Area 51m...

I try to do my best to help my laptop to give his full potential but hey... when your unit is dying on idle the next morning of a repair with a change of MB & Graphic card on original settings no OC :

THE
USER
IS
NOT
TO
BLAME.

PERIOD.

That's all

 

Fans suck air from input vents usually at the bottom and then expel it out the output vents at the rear and the sides, passing over the heatsink's grills first. There is no airflow over any components due to the fans' action. Unless the A51m has been designed differently?

 

My feelings exactly mate! It should not BURN while watching a video. End of story.

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Dell should be offering extending warranty just because of this issue.

 

Hey guys, so I'm just starting to UV my 2070 through Afterburner. But I have a couple of questions.

First of all, what's a good voltage for this card?

Currently, I'm able to keep 1900MHz @ .875V.

I'm also able to boost to 2000MHz @ 1V.

Are these decent for the 2070?

I don't have any temp issues with my 2070, in fact it runs really cool. But I figured I could OC and UV at the same time to gain performance and lower the temps at the same time.

Edit: Also, I'm using GPU Z render test for a baseline, but sometimes it says "Application has been blocked from accessing Graphics Hardware." Anyone know what this is about?

I have to close it and open it again to start the render test. Does this just mean the voltage is unstable?

Also, checked Event Viewer and recieved a warning that display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered, is this due to too low/too high of an UV/OC?

 

Too low Voltage, increase the voltage

 

Alright. Thanks.

It seems 1900MHz @ .900V doesn't throw any errors, so I'll keep it at that for now.

 

Did you OC the memory?

 

I did. Only +300 though.

 

As a precaution, or it didn't go any further?

 

Just for testing. I've benched it with +1000 memory before.

 

If you have looked at the chassis design, you can see the MB's shape is designed the way so fans most likely can suck in air from several places. Even from the grills in front if there is holes there. But the airflow is probably too weak to cool the power delivery properly, both for the MB and graphics.


http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...m-owners-lounge.826831/page-533#post-10883056

 

Killer Software Uninstaller 1.0.2019.0521

 

That GT76 seems appealing with those ports, but not sure if I would trade the weight and size for the much larger unit. I am already finding my old P870DM-G to be quite heavy for on-the-go purposes.


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For what its worth...
I was able to test both the LG and the AUO panels.
The LG had 330 nits at its brightest point which was dead center.
The AUO had 280 nits on dead center with 300 nits being on the top center.
The AUO only achieved 300 nits in that one spot while the LG had above 300 nits multiple locations.

Regarding the response time. I'm pretty darn picky when it comes to response time and I would say these panels are pretty close to each other, if not the same.
I tested by using two methods. One was the typical blur buster method and then used a high speed camera to compare moving images.
I also did the more scientific eyeball test. I personally feel while eyeballing it is the least accurate when it comes to measurement it is the most accurate when it comes to satisfaction.
From an eyeballing it standpoint they look very similar and I would genuinely be happy with either when it comes to response time. (again I'm super geeky and picky when it comes to response time).

Regarding color reproduction I personally feel that comes down to preference. With no calibration to me they both looked similar. Again I'm kind of picky when it comes to something that is too warm and yellow. I was not bothered by either panel in its out of the box uncalibrated state.
When both were calibrated to the same settings; they looked the same with the exception of the brightness. Calibrating tends to sacrifice brightness a little,so because the LG was brighter out of the box, it obviously ended up brighter after calibration.

All in all, I would say I would not stress about either panel regarding response time, or even for color / brightness for that matter as the both are awesome panels.
I personally would only stress about dead / stuck pixels & of course extreme light bleeding which historically AUO has been known for.
My suggestion would be to use a monitor test site like EIZO and check for dead or stuck pixels.
Be sure not to just check a solid white / black but also RED, GREEN, & Blue as its very common that a sub pixel is dead or stuck.

I hope this helps someone.

 

That's the most detailed review I've seen of the both panels. Thank you so much mate, truly appreciated. Is the contrast ratio of these panels similar too?

Can also please share both your calibrated profiles here so that some of us can try it? I know we've had this discussion before that every panel needs to be calibrated differently but I want see how the panel feels after applying your calibrated profile.

Thanks

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Nice, thanks a lot. Gotta say I'm surprised to see the brightness distribution differ that much on the same kind display: Notebookcheck's example (LG) had high nits in the middle (335) while the sides could be as low as 280. Yet another thing you need to roll well on in the component lottery then I guess :/

And yes, like Voodoochild asked; really want to know about the contrast as well. The LG I referenced had a 508:1 contrast ratio. Iv'e read the AUO is stronger there; up to 700:1-800:1.

 

wow I'm going to have to save this response somewhere. If mine blows up after my 3yr warranty is up, you can best believe I'll be referencing this! lol

 

I also took a screenshot and backup the screenshot ..


You're welcome

 

Great find! Saved for future references

+rep

 

I highly doubt Frank has the power to give everyone lifetime warranty, good luck trying to claim that with some telephone agent in the future. Good luck trying to explain what "specific root cause" he is referring to and what that actually means.

 

A good thing to begin with in my case is the history of all the problems i've faced as a log of events and diagnostic... but I do agree with you at some point...

 

Anyone have any tips or FIVR settings they have used for this laptop for Throttle Stop when it is on battery? Trying to see if I can squeak by with a little more juice.

 

Hi,

is a TDP-Update planned for the RTX2070? A higher TDP than 115w would be nice.

edit: is planned

 

Yes its planned, according to Frank. But I've been asking for updates about it with no reply. So not telling when/if it will happen.

I'll keep bugging him though.

 

lol, I know that wechat group, It's a Chinese group, 19 pcs 2080 burnt, 1 pcs 2060 artifacts

 

And I’ve been intentionally trying to melt my system for those tasty new parts, but also dont want it to melt because of how well my chips can handle the stress and overclocking.

That being said, I am satisfied with my purchase as I approach the end of the 30 day return period.

Just received the 1650x and an i1Display Pro. Hopefully I get everything settled after my 3 straight nights of 12hr shifts.


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Bro, I've seen you updating your RMA status for a long time in this thread. How could you bear dell took your money and left you alone without the product for such a long period. Time is money!

 

I'll do some more extensive testing tomorrow.

 

I know Bro...

It seems like I got tired of all this stuff... tired of fighting along...

 

Hi all

One more that was burned, no OC, I from in Spain Sorry for my English

19900k / 2080 i use 20 days

 

Sorry to hear that mate, so, how did Dell handle the RMA? Are you getting a new system?

Don't ask for any part repair or replacements! Ask them for a FULL system replacement or with a upgrade thrown in for all the hassle they've put you through. Or a downright refund!

Keep us updated. Good luck

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(Posted in jest, In case it doesn't show thru...)

Perhaps you're trying too hard? Seems like in the reports here the system was just sitting idle for an extended period of time or someone was running low impact stuff, like binge watching a bunch of movies. LOL!

 

Well thats the thing. I had run several movies through VLC and streaming. Decided to up it next by adding a Word processor on top of that. Maybe about 500 active tabs of Chrome. Prime95. Maybe the secret for my machine to go into dust is by doing something reasonable... like downloading RAM or adding LED fluid.


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I think fair to say by now that you've a stable system on your hands. Enjoy the machine, leave the insecurity out of it.

My system is on my way through FedEx and should be getting delivered today. It's my turn now for the "burn" test!

Wish me luck.

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Hope its a good one and you have no issues, let us know how it goes.

 

sorry ti tray to up the video

 

I hope God will take good care of those who don't know or heard about this flaws and only had money to spend/spent for 1 year's warranty. I mean after the *warranty have expired*.

Edit. A well known flaws since early February... But this does't count in the END.

 

You have a comment on Twitter from the VP and general manager of Alienware stating that they will support this specific issue even after the end of the warranty. Sure it is just words, but you have a pretty good case to make should they not honor that.

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I have been just using this system as if I never heard of this issue and several benchmarks, games and a movie I have not had it explodey on me. I overclocked it to 5.2ghz but it got too hot so I will need to repaste and pad. I made a Playlist of movies and had it playing them over night (risky I know). It was fine.

I gotta say out of all laptops I have ever owned from Alienware or anything else this was the most impressive and I am in .
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I'm really sorry to hear that, compatriot. I read about your incident in the other forum. I really hope Dell replaces yours with a brand new one with the fixed components ASAP.
I'm really afraid about mine, we bought them almost the same day and received them almost at the same time. I haven't pushed mine hard enough, I have only done some benches, but I need to play hard for several hours a very demanding game like the Division 2 to stress the system and see what happens.
As I stated before, it's impossible for us to know what the real root cause is. Some systems are dying almost at idle, it could be due to some parts being damaged and deteriorated or weakened by heat or high voltages during gaming sessions and then burning randomly.
Were your CPU and GPU undervolted?

 

I ordered my system the 15th May, and according to Syncreon it shipped from China the 20th. That's the only update since then. How long does it usually take from shipped to delivered? I live in the UK.
This wait is like being 8 again a few days before christmas equal amount impatience/excitement.