*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

FYI...in most markets you can buy an extended Dell/Alienware warranty at any time, even after your existing warranty has expired.

We do provide a FREE UPGRADE TO 2 Years Premium Support + 2 Year HIDevolution US Warranty + LIFETIME HIDevolution Technical Support

 

Yes sir. The topic is several places on the web. Also on NBR forum. http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-warranty-dell-premium-is-it-worth-it.827014/

People should start save up cash for this if they couldn’t afford pay for extended warranty when they bought the notebook. I hope they pay it beforehand before something sad happens.

 

I forgot to tell i also had installed MSI afterburner, and then things really got funky running it with AWCC. Even tho i didnt use any overclock with the command center, only with afterburner. From that point clocks got stuck. Even after revo uninstall msi afterburner, AWCC, OC controls, even Nvidia drivers.. nothing really helped.

I did a System restore to 2 days back and everything is fine again. I really like to use Msi afterburner together AWcc just to adjust fans but it wont let me for some reason clocks get messed up

 

I'm using afterburner all together with AWCC latest version and I don't have any issues. Make sure OC is disabled in AWCC

 

So we have out first look at the MSI GT76. It's cooling looks different then the norm but don't know how much more effective it's really going to be yet. Also the Bios has Full CPU overclocking and Power limit controls. Also it has full memory overclocking ability's from the bios. To be honest I like the Alienware Area 51m design more. I don't care to much about power limit controls for cpu. I don't expect to push the 9900k like a desktop pc as much as I would love that as a obsessive overclocker. If I could get the 9900k to 4.8ghz all core with no avx under 90c I would be satisfied for now. But what I really want is the memory oc just so we can run at least 2666 because there are many programs I run that benefit greatly from faster memory. Just cant wait to see if this may push AW to start pushing the bios updates to allow us a bit more control.

 

I just sent a tweet a while ago. I do like how the Alienware account is a bot though.

https://twitter.com/lonesyndal/status/1132782279137214465?s=21


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Hi guys, I tried to search this question both here and in reddit but I couldn’t find an answer. If you order a 51m without selecting any HDD, will Dell include the caddy and cable anyway or we need to purchase them by ourselves?



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I dont think its possible to order w/o a hard drive?

 

I chose to upgrade to a 256G M.2 SSD from the stock 1TB HDD, so unless dell wants to throw me with another HDD I guess I won’t have one lol.


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Are you sure it doesnt show the 1TB SSHD listed on your order?

I would expect them to still have the cage/wire inside the machine even if you didn't get a HDD, but knowing AW/Dell, your guess is as good as mine, and I'm sure you'll get different answers from everyone at dellienware.

 

They will include it as far as I know, I ordered it from XOTICPC without the hard drive and it came wtih both.

 

I checked it again and the only thing is the 256GB SSD.

The reason why I am confused is that some buyers in other regions reported that they didn't come with them, I went on and asked a dell sales rep and here's their reply...

Thanks for the tip! I wonder if that applies to those who purchased directly from Dell, or XOTICPC/ HIDevolution will add it to our machine.

 

For those of you interested, Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut will be available on Amazon June 1 and you can pre order now. $15.99 for one pad (Intel.)

Might pick one up to try it out. Looks like from the testing it runs about ~3C warmer than Kryonaut, but it can be reused.

Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut Thermal Pad 32 x 32 x 0.2 mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHN2ZNY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Bo26CbH3F1MA4

 

I got mine from a store with no HDD, just two M2 and it came with the hdd enclosure and everything, it even had screws taped to it.


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It looks nice! I like the idea of reusable pad. Will order one.

That's nice! Thanks for the feedback. So far from what I've heard they are very likely to ship with it if you order from a reseller or pick up from a store. Hope I can get confirmation from someone ordered directly from dell as well! With that being said, if they didn't include those, I'd probably find someone complaining about this issue in this thread from my research lol.

 

Just to reply to myself to add new info...
Here are the results of further testing comparing the two panels (LG vs AUO 144Hz G-Sync)
Again I must point out that the LG's brightest point is center and spreads out to lower nits as you go to the edges.
With AUO its actually brightest at top center and kind of degrades in an array / cone shape as you go down.
I have seen this on other AUO panels on in desktop monitors. (for example PG279Q).
I also was able to attempt to find another way of testing response time. I'm not confident in the number it produces but in the least bit it allows me to compare the two.
The test shows that the panels were almost identical when it comes to response time. This also was what I visually was able to see. (again I'm picky so I was looking for the one with less blur)

AUO
Black level = 0.2769 cd/m^2
50% level = 70.92 cd/m^2
White level = 300.10 cd/m^2
Aprox. gamma = 2.08
Contrast ratio = 1084:1

LG
Black level = 0.2750 cd/m^2
50% level = 74.06 cd/m^2
White level = 333.62 cd/m^2
Aprox. gamma = 2.17
Contrast ratio = 1233:1

 

I am running the stock vbios, I don't really know anything about the 200w vbios, what's that about? Truth be told I'd rather force it and make it burn rather then keep looking above in case the sky will drop.

Anyway my impression right now is that I'm not really getting the GPU in full load in any game so that would explain the temps. I'll give it more time in Division2 later this week with uncapped FPS to see how it goes as that seemed to be the most intensive thing around right now.

 

Here you go the 200w vbios
https://www.dell.com/support/home/u...roductcode=alienware-17-area51m-laptop&lwp=rt

I've been really concerned about the temperature difference since the replacement

 

Well, just looking at this picture i start to drool....

this thing has the potential to utterly destroy the 51m. The heatsink is not shared, so heat will have a harder time bleeding from the GPU side to the CPU side. The thing has 4 more heatpipes than the 51M. a shame the RTX is soldered, but if we need to believe MSI, it's the full fat 2080, so this could be a serious competitor to the 51m (how can this thing have more copper than the 51m while weighing the same ?!) i read that 4 years of developing this has been put in. looking @how the inside looks, it sure looks like it. AW has been caught pants down and this could wake them up again from the slumber they had (like how @Johnksss and @Prema woke up umar when he taught no laptop could walk side by side with the 51m lol)

i'm interested to see what it can do, but for now if no manufacturer plays nice with AMD i'm building desktops again lol.

 

I ordered one with no SSHD directly from Dell and it came with the caddy.

What's the purpose of Intel releasing the 9900KS? AFAIK the 9900K can already sustain 5GHz in all cores with no problem.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel...on-clocked-to-5GHz-on-all-cores.422277.0.html

 

Not all chips can, where as with the 9900KS it's guarenteed.

 

In other words, Intel had nothing to show at Computex so they thought it'll be a GREAT idea to show a slightly better binned chip with the same process and hope no one would notice. No one is going to buy this chip considering what AMD has already unveiled on the desktop side of things.

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Imagine this on a laptop.... someone will surely do it considering the low TDP of these chips.

Intel looks royally screwed this time around and about time I Say!

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Fixed it for you

Full Fat BGA graphics doesn't matter. A disgusting move. No thanks! http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/2080-9900k-which-is-best-laptop.828884/page-7#post-10915136

The new refreshed Intel 9th processor lineup have new stepping. R0 is with implemented security fixes = Less performance. Of course they had to add in 9900KS with higher 8 core boost clocks. + Intel will still offer better multi threaded performance with all cores at 5.0GHz vs. Amd's new 7nm Ryzen 8 Core flagship 3800X
Expect also... A revamped Turbo Boost algorithm to yield significant gains in multi-core performance.

Only the 3700X variant have low enough TDP.

 

Thanks! Glad to see both displays getting over 1000:1 contrast Makes me more shocked over the range though: as I wrote earlier, Notebookchecks LG example had 500:1 (!), insane lottery here.

 

i would say it's an half baked attempt. It will get some people moving/thinking, if it outperforms a certain laptop which could kickstart a battle between who has the fastest or most upgradeable one. That will make innovation neccesary. Halve baked (for me personally). i wouldn't buy an BGA laptop/desktop anymore, but i have to say the layout and the amount of copper triggered my IT senses that this laptop could very well outperform the 51m.

But yeah you're right.

 

In France 2080's are now shipped in 10 to 12 business days (25-27 before)

My "order" is not yet accepted anyway.

 

Mine has been in repair since 26/04 after screen turning black with keyboard and fans on. This lead to mobo and gpu dieing. I just got the message that it is being sent back to me repaired. Seems like they got the revised Mobo and GPU in stock now. i will be receiving my laptop back to me wednesday or thursday hopefully. this is EU as well btw. Hope it holds up longer than 1 day this time hehe.

 

Hi,

I live in France too.

Today the Facebook Community Manager told me they were facing logistic problems, that's why the estimated date was so long, once the logistic problem is solved all ETA of orders (normal orders or swap orders) will be updated to show the decrease .

Seems like they "may" fixed those units and they "may" provide the fixed units on the market...

 

Must be a large variation in production. I am also faulty sensitive to monitor quality. Have been editing photos and videos on PC/MAC since mid 90’s. I immediately saw the difference in the Lg and the AUO on the 2 51m’s I had here. Calibrating helped but my AUO was still noticeably better than the LG I had. Actually did my first video editing on my Amiga in 87-88

 

Not sure, but these tests have been confirmed on two of each panel. The results while slightly different for each panel, were still very close. (i.e. one LG panel tested at 330 nits and the other one tested at 333 nits / 1213:1 on one LG vs 1233:1 on the other).

 

Another one bites the dust... and this time it was Minecraft!

If you still think this is a user error, we have nothing else to discuss...


https://www.reddit.com/r/Alienware/...raft/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share




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I can imagine MC running at 10.000 FPS, LMAO. Well, it's not funny.
I would like to know if the supposedly fixed laptops from the new batches are able to survive like they should or pass away to the heaven of laptops as well

 

Some are still using Day One 51M more than 3 months now and nothing has gone up in smoke yet I guess.

Donald said even new batches had issues a while back , so I guess it’s hit and miss at this moment

 

Will Area-51m get same or similar panel within this year? Have you got more info about it?

ASUS Unveils First 17.3-Inch Laptops With Fast 240Hz 3ms Displays for Buttery Smooth Gameplay
When shopping a laptop for playing games, it's imperative that you get one with the fastest GPU you can afford, since it can't be upgraded in the vast majority of notebooks.

 

Unless it's an Alienware with its Graphics Amplifier.

 

I've been trying to find out what panel this is. So far it has not been revealed. One can assume that if it has a "narrow bezel" form factor it will end up in the A51M.
I'm actively looking for the panel model etc. I will post when I find it. If someone else finds it before me, please post.

 

Same panel as this I would think? might be nice to throw in the backpack.

https://www.techpowerup.com/255969/asus-announces-240-hz-portable-rog-monitor

 

Yup, I would put money on it being the same. Now I want to find out more specs on the panel. Uggg
LOL that reminds me of this guy I keep seeing at my local Starbucks. Dude is in there with a full on 32" TV on one of those side tables, his PS4 under the table, his headset on, and a blanket covering him. lolol. Surely that would be a bit more smooth to be in there with the Asus ROG portable.
But For real, There are a bunch of cool things that can be used for. Looking forward to it!

 

I note AUO has developed a 4K 120Hz panel and if it has the colour and brightness and contrast of the 4K 60Hz panel it will be wonderful.

 

Shame 1440p/120Hz is getting passed by.

Leaping to 4K/120Hz is wasteful when 4K/60Hz gaming isn't yet realistic for laptops.

 

I saw that, however it appears to not have narrow bezels.

Do you have a link to that? Interesting...
I know they announced a 15.6" LTPS that is 120Hz but had not heard of a 17.3" that was 120Hz.
That sure would be interesting to see considering the size of desktop 4K 120Hz monitors. They are significantly thicker than say a QHD 165Hz.

 

For those who are interested. I just purchased two SSD heatsinks from dell. They charge 4.99 for each and they included free shipping. I only need to pay less than 10.78. Apparently they are in stock right now. Btw the part number is JV98R if you needed.


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Well I won't be mean to Dellienware for their effort in Area-51m. I hope they take a page or two for allowing more control for PL and such. Still MSI's soldered GPU is a deal breaker. No matter how awesome the cooling will be it's a mighty pass for me.

 

Also note that in the pic above the heatpipes are tightly held together. On good air heatsinks heatpipes are soldered together with top and bottom plates to insure optimum heat transmission into the pipes and sinks. Dell's pipes aren't even tightly aligned, but the ones above are. That shows a much greater care for the heatsink design than simply more pipes. They are better pipes, not just more of them.

We may hate the BGA gpu's, but with the rate of burnouts on the dell daughterboards, it's not yet proving to be a better design. Time will tell, but so far, first adopters have been given a very unpleasant experience and with not small dollars involved.

 

Although I can fully understand the preference to have exchangeable gpu and cpu to be able to replace them independently of the motherboard, I don’t see a clear path of upgrading with intel changing sockets frequently and relying on dells proprietary gpu module...its Niche only, albeit a pretty cool one...

Maybe once technology has shrinked the chip size and power requirements down enough, modular design may pick up again but IMHO not soon, especially for power users who want it “portable “..

I think what’s would be really useful for that niche is for dell or msi to open up an RND and really look into more advanced cooling solutions

 

i am more optimistic. the next gen nvidia/amd GPU are going to be 7nm which will further lower GPU power requirements. Alienware has already overbuild the GPU to allow it to run at 200W power when nvidia's official specs call for only 150W. power is not the issue here, but rather if dell is willing to put in the resources to design the next DGFF board for the new GPU.

 

A thinner version of the area 51m is coming....Power button right side...What the hell?
Edit: m15/17 successor confirmed (Computex)

 

Interesting....with a big / modern touchpad (ok, not so interessting for a gaming-notebook, but better look).

I do not like the deeper keyboard. And the fans may be less big (bad).

I think the current is not too thick...

 

Yep, much better look

 

Ahhhh, it is only a M17 (new design): https://www.computerbase.de/2019-05/dell-alienware-m15-m17-2019/

Good idea from Alienware, it looks better! (in my opinion )

But I love my Area 51m with desktop cpu