*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

That's a Chinese Online shopping app, not sure if it sells overseas lol.
If you still want a try, I can give the link.

 

What benefits does this interface have?

 

There isn't a link for a download of a model's Prema BIOS, and to clarify a bit, there isn't even a Prema BIOS for available the A51m.

@Papusan was referring to the Prema BIOS and Throttlestop on his Clevo P870. You cannot download it, it will come installed (or can be installed) when you purchase a Clevo model from a "Prema-Partnered" Reseller - https://premamod.com/partner/

 

Guys, whoever names the backpacks at Dell needs to be neutered, shot and then sent to the sun.

I have chance to get this: https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-Ar...rea-51m+Elite&qid=1561044018&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Does anyone have it? Is it worth the bucks, any impressions? I'm most interested if it holds the a51m tight in the laptop socket as in my current backpack it swims in it.

I saw there's some other variants but I can't find any online clip or review about this model nor can I find the other models for sale as they are all Alienware Elite backpacks!

Thanks

 

The 51m elite backpack is a good quality backpack, you won't be disappointed. Lots of room for storage and your beast will fit in it perfect. Here is the Dell link for the backpack, it's a little cheaper too : https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/aa451815

 

Well 0.2mm is 10x thicker than 0.02mm. So you never know until you try it out.

Normal wifi cards (AX200 in this case) internally use PCIe for Wifi and USB for BT connectivity. CNVio wifi card (AX201 in this case) is basically a CRF module only while the wifi processor, associated logic, memory and MAC components are moved over directly onto the CPU or the chipset itself which communicates with the CRF module (the "wifi card" in this case) through an intel proprietary protocol called CNVio. I personally find it much more stable than it's PCIe cousin AX200 with little to no spikes in connectivity speeds plus 0 connection drops under massive load. Plus it is no longer connecting through PCIe so one less burden on your PCIe. AX201 comes with CNVio2 however.

 

Hello guys, I just received my area 51m with rtx 2080. In order to maximize the cooling I am going to apply thermal grizzly liquid metal but I cannot find a clear answer here about the thermal pads. Is it possible to put them also in the problematic area of the MOSFETs that are burning out? What brand? size? can anyone summarize this?

 

So Windows updates is trying to download and install BIOS 1.5.4. I have UEFI firmware capsule updates disabled, I thought that would have prevented it? How are you guys dealing with this?

 

I'm sure this has been covered in the last 4-5 pages with pictures, I'd recommend you having a check but if I remember right, 1.5mm and 2mm seem to be the most popular pad sizes.

 

Yeah, Dell will do everything to be sure you have latest firmware

Try this. Always close the door.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1233#post-10919294

 

Thermal pad size guide: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-for-alienware-area-51m-9900k-rtx2080.829543/

I recommend Panasonic pads (best performance/value imo) with 13w/mk thermal conductivity. Quite squishy as well so they make great contact.
1.0mm: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=P121371-ND
1.5mm: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=P121372-ND
2.0mm: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=P121373-ND
3.0mm: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=P121375-ND

If you want to re-pad just one of these machines, I'd go with 1x1.0mm, 1x1.5mm, 1x2.0mm and 1x3.0mm. But to be on the safe side and future proofing your build, it's better to buy more than the bare minimum required amount. 3mm is just needed on one place so you can be good with just one of those.

 

I’ve read reports on reddit and other places that the audio quality from the headphone jack on this machine is pretty poor. Can anyone comment on this?

 

People generally have a habit of complaining, so I wouldn't pay any heed to something that I read on reddit and try it out myself before giving a verdict. For me, it sounds good. Can't say for another hyper sensitive audiophile though (although I'm myself one).

 

@VoodooChild when you opened up your laptop from hid, mind i ask were the problematic mosfet padded by them?

 

Goodies are piling up for my test bench experiment with fresh batches of everything! This is going to be some major fun!

Disable automatic updates completely. Install windows 10 on a virtual machine. When you feel like you want to update windows, just update it in virtual machine first and then take a look at the list of all update packages that were installed via "Add or remove programs -> Programs and features -> Installed updates". Once you have the names of all update packages, download them in stand alone format from microsoft and install on your main machine.
And, do yourself a big favor. STAY AWAY from any windows 10 builds after 1809 for now. There are too many half baked features in newer builds that will ruin your user experience, unless you like new challenges and have plenty of time available to kill.

 

The CPU heatsink in the 51m isn’t Aluminium is it?

 

Copper.

 

Thank you! Ordered pads, delidding tool today and Conductonaut. What thermal paste should I use on the GPU chip?

 

Nice, goodluck! I personally use Kryonaut, and I've had great luck with it.

Any high end thermal paste will do though, GC extreme, phobya, mx4, whichever you prefer.

 

AW Elite backpack FTW! I was going send my A51m back for refund but kept it because of the Elite backpack!

 

After many years of using up a huge order of ICD I recently got a tube of Gelid Extreme and really liked its consistency. From the feedback I gathered, even though NG Extreme has the highest W/mk, people see better RL results with Kryonaut. Those re-usable Fujipoly pads on the GPU core also appear like a good investment.
I am out of thermal paste and need to order asap...

Eager to hear your results. Please add me whenever posting them!

 

I'm still waiting for more stuff to arrive before I commence. I've ordered some of this thermal putty stuff as well and also some in-plane graphite pads that are as thin as 0.01mm with thermal conductivity of 1950w/mk. I am going to use those things as tim as well (they are having adhesive on one side). I suspect they are so thin that they might actually work as a TIM even though they are in-plane. I have some more things in mind to try with them which include covering the underside of the heat pipes with that adhesive graphite sheet to speed up heat transfer to the fans. That might actually help a little bit, but we'll see. As you can see, too much fun is to be had here.

 

FYI. Read what a Windows 10 Build is.


No need to make it more complicated than it has to be... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1192#post-10917130

All you'll need from Win Update catalog (Microsoft windows security updates). See... standalone patches for install offline.

1) One time install of Latest Servicing Stack for Windows 10 Versions (Always see if you have installed needed Servicing Stack before you proceed with latest Cumulative updates).
2) Latest Cumulative updates for new builds etc xxxxx. xxx
3) Security update for Adobe Flash Player
4) Cumulative Update for .NET Framework
5) Latest Intel Microcode Updates patch (If you really want/need)

Wait a few days with the updates so you know you don't update with flawed patches.

There is in short no need do this work in an another way.

 

I´ve had bad expercience with the fujipoly pads. Mine went crispy dry after 4 months in use.

 

guys, how do I configure the touchpad light to stay on all the time? it only illuminates when I touch it and then it turns off after a few secs. I can't find any option for this inside the Alienware command center

 

you find this setting in the uefi of the machine


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That's completely fine in return of the thermal performance they give. Nothing else comes even close. Thermal pads cannot be reused multiple times and all of them will harden up after a while. It depends upon how hard somebody pushes the thermals and how often. I have a stack of 50+ of these remaining and I chugged through half of what I bought already within the last 2 weeks. Lol

 

thank you!
One more question I have is how you make the Realtek console to recognize the audio device.
I have installed the Dell driver and the app from Microsoft store but it keeps saying "Realtek Audio console doesn't support for this machine."

 

Literally going through hundreds of dollars worth of pads for minimal difference... I regret the 100+ I had to spend on my fujipolys. Using gelid now but honestly would've probably been just as fine with cheap ass arctics.

I hate thinking about how much I spent on just these damn pads. Probably around $300 by now.

 

Yeah they're expensive. I upgraded from stock to Gelid, and the difference was insane for me.

I can run my 9700k at 5GHz -0.100UV on balanced fans and average 60C, max hits between 70C and 80C depending on the game.

Where as before, with stock clocks on CPU, it was averaging around 65C-70C. So not only did my temps drop significantly, I can run it at 5GHz 24/7.

 

The complaints aren't about the sound quality alone, but of the quality of the ports themselves. Several have to deal with pop sounds, issues with the right ear volume, or mic not working. In my case I get crackling sounds before W10 starts loading, pop sounds randomly, right ear volume extremely low, and mic either not working or the quality others hear extremely poor. Slight movement also causes right ear to not work either. The quality of the sound itself is very good compared to many other laptops/prebuilts though.

Currently have an appointment in a couple days to replace it and see if that fixes it.

 

Just purchased Panasonic pads, should I have purchased gelid?

 

This!

Everyone has to read this!

People in this thread are making it seem like a High End Super Expensive thermal pad and a fortune costing Thermal Paste is a MUST if you want this run this system perfectly. That's absolutely non sense and very misleading to the uninitiated.

Yes, they make a difference, may be about 5C in some odd cases, but not so much you have to spend $300 plus on them and change the "entire process" regularly for it to be optimal. That's ludicrous! One can use a cheap ass MX4 and Ebay thermal pads and easily get max temps of 75-80C on both the CPU and the GPU and there's no need to change them may be for a year. My last repaste on my M17xR3 was over a year ago and the temps are still consistent. I just clean the fans and the vents very 3-4 months. Thats it!

I've used a fujipoly + Conductanaut pasted delidded 9700K and 2080 and I've also used MX4 + Arctic thermal pads on the same machine and the difference between them was negligible! I will not repaste my new incoming laptop from Dell right away unless its absolutely necessary and even if I do so, I'll use my left over MX4 and Arctic pads. Not all of us have money to burn after all!

In both cases, users will have to undervolt the CPU and the GPU anyway and this is a MUST and best of all, its FREE!

Some users here are trying to run this laptop on balanced fan mode so may be they're spending so much on "so called thermal upgrades" but from my own relentless 7 day 24 hour a day non stop usage, I found out that Performance fan mode is perfectly acceptable. It is nothing more than a mild hum. In fact, as I don't have a Area 51m now and went back to my M17xR3 since a few days, I've found that how quite the Area 51m really is. My wife even noticed this and told me her observation as I was gaming this evening.

If you fall down this rabbit hole of opening up the system every 2 days and repasting for that extra 1C change, you'll computer will be more OFF then ON and you'll not game whosoever, you'll just observe the temps in game and monitor the fps.

Guess how I know this.... been there done that too many times on my old mxm based systems... for over 10 years in fact...

Just my 2 cents on this matter.

Sent from a Galaxy S9+

It was dreadful man. Those MOSFETS were naked... LM was floating around my GPU.. it was sad to see really...

Sent from a Galaxy S9+

 

Alienware Area-51m Drivers (21-Jun)

Download = https://drive.google.com/open?id=19Er1MWvcck_83WzvJBwrMmFxbPi8oqdN

- New Thunderbolt Driver
- New Intel Integrated Solutions Sensor Driver
- New Intel Management Engine Interface Engine Driver
- New Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver

Don't forget to unblock the ZIP file before you extract it otherwise all the files within will have a BLOCKED Status.

See: "Are you sure you want to run this file?" [Yes or No]

 

Greatly appreciated.

 

Thunderbolt is from jan 2019.....got really excited to fix my thunder display issue.

Assuming you are using the ones here?

https://www.dell.com/support/home/u...t/product/alienware-17-area51m-laptop/drivers

Your TB driver is newer than the one on AW site, where'd you get it? I'll try it out in a bit

On a random side note...just saw your IG button so decided to click. Didn't expect you to actually hold your user name to life LOL

Also I see you are a fellow mustang member. I got a 2016 Mustang GT California Special Ruby Red. Fun cars.

 

The best thermal paste we could get on the market is the Thermalright TFX, which shows 3c down compared to the MX4 and Kryonaut while benchmarking, you could give that a try.

 

Where I got the drivers from I cannot disclose. They are from Dell as you see from the installer, just not the ones the public drivers clown team keep re-posting. @Papusan

Yes that's me bro and yes I am a muscle car lover. Shelby first then ZL1, those are my 2 dream cars. Shelby because it has the best stock exhaust on the planet and ZL1 because it's the fastest from 0-60 from the muscle cars that I like that is.

 

I verified that Dell lists the replacement cost for RTX 2080 at $2,325 / US (~same cost as two desktop 2080Ti or three 2080s)

2080/70 owners w/basic 1year warranty should keep this in mind (edit: & consider extending your warranty, possibly for several years); 2060/2070 owners would do well to chat at Dell to inquire the cost of those cards (my guess is 2070 will list at ~$1650, 2060 at $775). I'm aware the 2080 price as a stand-alone spare part may be subject to change & may cost the same / more / less when the 'upgrade exchange program' as a service begins (ex. upgrade 2070 to 2080 through Dell), time will tell

off-topic:

Spoiler: old school

 

Here is more from the Clowns!

Yeah. And the same happened once again. I say it one more time... Don*t Install Bloatware or so called <recommended or whatever> software from the ODM manufacturers in any form or shape.

Dell Discovers Yet Another SupportAssist Security Flaw.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ts-and-incidents.816109/page-23#post-10925271

Read my post about buying second hand graphics here... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1160#post-10914447

Also... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1160#post-10914443

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1150#post-10914001

 

@ssj92 please report back if the new Thunderbolt Drivers solved your issue.

 

Nope, same issue. I even tried the latest .645 driver from station-drivers, no dice.

Works fine on AW 13 R3 & P870DM still! Doesn't work on Area-51m. Closest I ever got was a very older driver (non DCH) but it wouldn't allow me to click connect.

Told AW about this months ago, they said they'll look into it, never got back to me.

See the first video on top and last video on bottom: https://twitter.com/ssj925/status/1104933689488621568

 

You do have Windows Store Thunderbolt Control Center installed right?

I use my Thunderbolt port everyday all day long as I have it connected to a Type-C USB Hub but never tried what you are trying to do since my TV is only HDMI.

 

I do have it installed. This isn't type-C though this is full on TB3.

This has worked with AW 13 R3, Clevo P870DM, P870DM3, AW 17 R4.

It has not worked on Area-51m and m15. Something with these newer laptops idk what they did.

Kinda wish I knew how to test TB3 in Linux so I can rule out windows or BIOS.

 

Could anybody try running the 3dmark firestrike stress test at stock voltage with max fan profile please？
I‘d like to have a look at the temp curve.
THX

 

Good grief... now Windows Update is trying to push the 1.5.4 bios on me! WTF.. go away. ; ) I suppose now the bios update is going to block me for other windows updates. Awesome.

Anyone here play the Division 2? I've had the various stuttering issues that many see despite having good thermal numbers / being stable.

 

Download Shutup10 and check there, it has an option to block device driver updates while allowing regular updates and it's awesome. With this, you can still download your regular Windows cumulative updates while blocking manufacturers drivers level updates.

Also, disable UEFI firmware update capsule in the BIOS and you're free from this non sense.

While you're at it, download wpd.app and play around with it, you'll be amazed how awesome that app is.

You can thank me later!

Sent from a Galaxy S9+

 

So at 2300+ for a replacement 2080, can you imagine what the 3080 will cost? Trying to understand what the point can be to having a laptop with a replaceable/upgradeable GPU when the cost of it is the same as buying an entire new notebook of the non-upgradeable variety (max q of course). Oh well expensive beasts, but sounds a bit over the top, even for Dell.

 

This is just for a replacement, they aren't selling the 2080s for upgrades as of yet. I'm certain the price will drop dramatically once they start rolling out DGFF upgrades later in the year.

 

Can you check which USB C PD firmware is installed in TB SW panel like Ultra Male said? If its blank or not listed then you might need a mobo swap or its possible that dell has disabled it or whitelisted only their dongles to work.
Atleast on my BGA 15r2 Dell disabled TYpe C port and TB3 due to power surge issue due to faulty TI 65892 USBC PD Chip. I'm waiting for Ryzen Thinkpads to arrive in India and 15r2 will be EOL as daily driver lappie for me.
Dell HW/SW is a complete mess. Too many hands are in different pockets or checking something else!