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It depends upon what frequency are you running and what voltage is being used as well. I use 937mV with 1950 MHz on GPU clock. GPU boost pushes it up all the way to near 2GHz. These temps that I shared are the worst case temps without any aircon in a boiling room. I normally keep the aircon ON but sometimes I turn it off depending upon the humidity and comfort situation indoors. The ambient temps are between 30-35 when sunny here in Singapore and in my server room things can get a little hotter because I have a full rack of servers, switches and a couple of water distillers + dehumidifiers running pretty much all the time. Max temp that I've recorded in there is 41 degrees (Celcius, not Fahrenheit) without aircon during day time. With aircon turned on, the temps are VERY nice and my GPU can stay close to 2 GHz comfortably while running the same 937mV voltage, thanks to the GPU boost.

That hotrod needs a delid with some good old liquid metal between the dye and IHS along with an undervolt. It's nothing unusual for these chips. You should be able to safely undervolt anywhere from -100mV to -150mV. Once intel XTU stress test and cinebench run without crash with your undervolt, run a game like NFS payback to test CPU stability. I have noticed that even if Cinebench doesn't crash the CPU, NFS Payback will if the undervolt is too much. NICE job with the repaste/repad btw!

That's a thermaltake massive 20 RGB pad. What I like about it is that it is SUPER quiet and the air flow is really nice at the same time. Plus it has plush rubber feet that keep the laptop from sliding down when on an incline and the size is big enough to comfortably seat my machine. I notice roughly 1.5-2 degrees celcius difference between fan off and fan on full with incline on 2nd notch (it has 2 notches for incline with 2nd being at higher angle). And the RGB lighting is quite awesome. Personally I use it more for the comfort of incline angle that it provides as I really like typing on the inclined keyboard. It helps me keep my hands away from the wrist rest and is super comfy for long duration typing sessions.

 

Right you are...

We about 25-28C here thou, but of course it's not bad at all.

 

There is more to it than meets the temps. The crucial components on both DGFF and beside the motherboard socket never get to report their temperatures and can only rely on careful application of pads by the person who put the heat sink on. So I wouldn't recommend merely relying on sensor data to estimate the shape your computer's thermal dissipation system because it is mostly inaccurate until you make sure that it is done right. If not, it is almost a gamble, especially in an insanely powerful hot machine like this.

 

Thanks S.K.

Next step is undervolting for GC & CPU Indeed .

I was thinking to send my i9 9900k to a well known IT store here in France that offer to delid your CPU in Paris for Something like 30€ and they offer a warranty on the CPU & their operation plus testing of his limits...

But this would require to unscrew this sandwich monster once again ...

 

My recommendation would be not to do it immediately.

You've had to wait a long time for a functional laptop, almost ended up canceling the order because of the ordeal you endured, had to wait for a 2080 based system to show up in France for a few weeks and finally after 2 plus months of your initial payment, got a fully functional desktop replacement.

Why don't you just enjoy the laptop now? Install your favorite games and blast through it with the beast you have on your hands. You've already repasted and repadded the system, now it's time you enjoyed it to its max!

AFAIK, only S.K. and Captain are using delidded CPU with their machine at the moment (I was the third but my system crapped out, I don't plan to delid anymore) and most users are getting awesome temperature here especially after a undervolt. You can look for a delid option once you've quenched your initial thirst of playing with this beast first! In other words, look for a boob job only after the "original" get saggy. Haha

TLDR: why fix if it ain't broken?

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Well, got my 51m yesterday. Didnt put so many things on it, but first impression is boi what a reactive stuff. Nothing surprises that i9 when having casual web browsing, it never pass 10% usage.
Im waiting to get division 2 so i can run the benchmark and try some undervolt and keep the fans off when not gaming

I have noticed two things on my device: the full hd screen is not perfectly centered in the chassis.
Its right side follow the screen frame but the left side has an offset of 2mm between screen left pixels and the frame.
Also, there is tiny tilt. Distance screen/frame at bottom left: 2mm, at top left: 1.5mm. Its minor but meh.

I'll not intend any screen, change, cuz it has no dead pixels, kinda clean lighting, great colours.
(they changed a 100% fine screen on my 17r3, the "new" screen got 4 dead pixels, light flickering...)

Second: when at 40%, the fans create vibration (really noticeable on the palmrest) and a kinda anoying rumble. Below and above 40%, nothing.
40% is the second fan level, slower speed is 35% and slower is fans off. Most of the time the fan runs 35%. Im Running the silence mode (ambiant temp 27c)

I guess perfection does not exist

edit:

also I tried to see if the 51m can lay on my cooler Thermaltake Tai Chi M+ cooler (kinda old and with inefficient fans) https://www.dvhardware.net/review99_3_tai-chi-m.html

Due to its form, its not stellar. The AW intake vents rest on the "plain" non-vented cooller surface. Ill have to find something else, or simply let the laptop flat on the desk.

 

Nice advice to consider indeed...

Let's enjoy before tweaking...

Anyway it's a very silent unit on idle... feels very strange compared to the back-up laptop (Alienware M14X) I was running meanwhile...full of dust and suffering NOT in silence

 

Area-51m backpack finally available to purchase in Canada! My rewards were literally going to expire tomorrow, on the 20th, so perfect timing. I was about to buy a Vindicator 2.0 bag last weekend, but then I thought, "I've been waiting almost 3 months; what if they decide to put it in the shop next week? I'd be pissed" Glad I waited.

https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/mob...dark-grey-for-alienware-area-51m/apd/aa451815

 

So my Alienware Area-51M arrived today. So excited!

I got Windows 10 Pro with mine, but it's saying that Windows can't be activated on the device right now.

Anyone have this issue before?

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Just heard of this @ole!!! , anyone tried it? Only for the 9th gen K CPU's, from Intel:

Intel® Performance Maximizer
Version: 1.0.1.602 (Latest) Date: 6/17/2019
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28772/Intel-Performance-Maximizer

Intel Performance Maximizer Pushed Our i9-9900k To 5 1GHz, Or Did It?
WccftechTV
Published on Jun 19, 2019
Intel has released their Performance Maximizer software for easy overclocking of unlocked 9th gen Core i5, i7, and i9 socket 1151 CPUs. We let it do its thing on our i9 9900K to see what it could do!

 

Ty for this, just bought it with my Loyalty points as well

 

Of just let it burn on its own and then you will have authentic smoke and flames !!!

They are unbalanced? Probably need to be replaced.

 

I did myself also a repad last weekend and only used 2.0mm and 1.5mm on some places. I can say my gpu (rtx 2700) dropped from 70c to 64c with Thermal Grizzly kryonaut on performance mode and playing Metro. I'm happy with it. But on the other end i also use kryonaut to repaste CPU and from 36c on idle now i get 48c. And playing i was from 88c with same performance mode and without undervolt, to 99c :/

I'm guessing this is happening now because maybe my outside temps is 28c? Before when i tested was 22c.

P.S. Sorry if it's not perfectly spread the kryonaut, but It's my second time doing a repaste in my life.


Edit: another image from behind the gpu where i also put some pads.

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Well, another problem

No sound on right side when using headphones or external speakers. Internal ones works fine.
I tried drivers delete/reinstall, nothing.
I reinstalled windows (1903), same issue.
Issue on both of the 3.5 connectors.

And yes, balance is set correctly :/

So, sound problem + non centered screen + fans vibration/noise.
Can they swap the entire machine for that? (its already a swap machine from my 17r3)

Im tired of Dell products.

edit: actually the right side emits sound, but very very low even when the balance is 100% right, tester with 3 heaphones

 

Need 16GB free space from your fixed storage, The download package near 1,6GB, Forced to use Windows 10, Other installed overclocking applications may interfere (most likely) with this tool, Some BIOS configurations may prevent the tool from achieving the maximum OC, Intel Watchdog Timer Driver must be Enabled, Long time to tune in the overclock and as usual Intel prefer put safe high voltage more as +1.5v (even for a moderate overclock).

Yeah, A lot of downsides and almost no benefits with this new Intel OC tool. I will continue use ThrottleStop with the superior Prema firmware. Won't spend time on this. Will it be a success? Not for the enthusiasts who like fiddle with own hardware. And I'm not even sure this new tool will be a success to hook up the less interested aka the Average Joe.

 

Note sure, vibrations only occures at 40%. If it was a balance issue the vibration would be stronger as the fans accelerate.

 

Everybody loves a high roller! A total burnout is the good lawds way of telling me I need a new machine! ;-p

 

Did you replace the pad on the underside of the GPU?

 

Hey guys seriously considering this I found a 9600k rtx 2070 model with the 144hz gsync panel for $2100 what are the thoughts is it a good machine does it live up to the hype I still have my m18x r2 that has been my baby for 2 decades but stopped buying Alienware because they have been pretty garbage but this thing is gorgeous

 

Not bad for $2100. Pretty solid deal. I paid a couple hundred more for mine, with 9700k. Which I assume is what you meant?

 

Guys if i repaste do i automatically void my warranty..?

 

No. Not unless you damage something in the process. Otherwise 99% of us here would have voided our warranties.

 

lol 1.5GB? I'll see what it is. TS still the best thus far.

 

i have to try those pads, thanks for the source :-D did you find some 1.5mm of those panasonic ones? i can only find 0.5, 1, 2 amd 3 mm

cheers


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I haven't tried the new Intel Performance Maximizer, but I assume it's like other similar tools, it iterates to find optimal values - of the ones it tunes - and you can use those values as a starting point for picking initial XTU or TS or BIOS settings.

I don't think IPM replaces XTU or TS... please let us know how it works for you.

 

Did ya give it a shot yet? Was going to try it out as well, but don't want to it break my other OCing apps.

Edit: Apparently the program takes a couple of hours to complete, so not sure it's really worth it lol.

 

Yup, the first Asus auto-tuning software was the same, slow steady iterations without any kind of intelligence to skip the obviously poor settings takes a long time.

It helps to have at least one other computer around to use while waiting for such long tests to complete.

 

Is anyone able to get their voltage on the CPU to stick?

Currently using XTU and my 9700K is at 5GHz and I have voltage set to 1.280, but it's still spiking into 1.4V territory, and averaging 1.3V..

Any way to make it stay at the voltage I set?

 

Congrats on the purchase! That position is not ideal imho because it is restricting the air flow into the fan intake vents to some extent. I'd suggest to either put it on a desk or buy a cooler like Thermaltake Massive 20 or some similar sized one that can actually handle this machine.

This is not an ideal thermal pad job. You have to cover the mosfets on the underside of DGFF with thermal pads which you haven't even done. I'd suggest that you take it apart again and fix those rear thermal pads. ONLY the mosfets need to be covered on the rear side, at least on my 2080.

https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=EYGT7070A15A

 

Yeah kinda decided not to due to that. Maybe when I have the whole day to let my laptop idle and tune itself.

Doubt it'll get me anything better than my settings.

 

+1 and I second this...
If you notice from the pictures of the burnt ones they are all the mosfets on the back side of the GPU.

Also the place you have the pad (the place circled in blue below, does not make contact with the above heatsink when it comes from the factory. Adding the pad you put there will not make it contact the above heatsink as the gap is huge and the heatsink is clearly designed to only make contact with the mosfets.
Like S.K. mentioned the ones you need to worry about are the ones (mosfets) circled in red.

 

If anyone has the part number of the heatsink on the back of the 2080, or knows where to buy one, I would greatly appreciate it!

Looking to pick one up for my 2070.

Edit: Just contacted Dell again, apparently they don't sell it, as it is attached from the manufacturer to the 2080 card. Guess I'll have to go with the DIY method of small heatsinks over the chips.

 

Is there any difference between 2070 and 2080 heat sinks actually？

 

2070's didn't come with any rear heat sinks before, not sure about that now though because it's been a while since I saw one. The rear heat sink mount looks identical however to the one that we have on 2080's.

 

Interesting, that might explain a lot.

 

Here in china the official RTX 2080 and heat sink are for sale for those who are preparing to upgrade their base model (Taobao lol).
From the vendor's info.
the heat sink comes with thermal paste from now.
The stock CPU thermal paste is ShinEtsu 7783D which is currently one of the best .
The stock GPU thermal paste Loctite special customized phase-change paste which is not for sale.

 

Nicee. How much is the 2080 dgff in US currency?

 

$145 for the heat sink and $1199 for the gpu

 

2070's didn't come with any rear heat sinks before, not sure about that now though because it's been a while since I saw one. The rear heat sink mount looks identical however to the one that we have on 2080's.

That heat sink is still cheaper than a 999 dollar stand.

 

Yikesssss. I hope the upgrade to 2080 is MUCH cheaper when the option comes out.

In any case, that's cheaper than Dell if you buy the part. Its $2,324...

 

Which Prema firmware?! Link NOW!!!

 

Good morning!!!!!

 

No there isn't. But the 2080 has a heatsink on the back of the DGFF, 2070 doesnt come with it.

Just inquired to dell and they dont sell the heatsink, it comes with the DGFF. Guess I'm sol.

 

I got it, that's the heat sink for the mosfets. Maybe the 2070 is no need for that. Moreover, not quite sure the 2080 "back heat sink" fits the 2070

 

Yeah it will fit. They're the same deminision, and have the mounting screws.

 

Intel AX201 Wifi6 chip is out with CNVIo interface. Just what I was waiting for haha!

I found Panasonic carbon pad that is merely 0.02mm thick and has thermal conductivity of 1600w/mk. I plan on trying this on my test bench next as it surely seems to beat the holy crap out of these TG and other "enthusiast" products out there (including liquid metal for that matter). Although this is NOT a soft-pgs pad but the thickness is so little that I have a feeling that it might just work as a TIM. Has anyone tried these before?

Edit: This stuff is more than 10x thinner than any "performance cooling pads" out there including IC Graphite and Carbonaut with thermal conductivity of 1600w/mk compared to 35w/mk in case of ic graphite, so this stuff is NOT something even remotely close. I have not seen anyone use one of these so far. Here is a demo video: https://www.digikey.com/api/videos/videoplayer/smallplayer/1668000939001

I'm going to give it a try anyway.

 

Old news and fiasco. And Good luck make it sing better than the other "enthusiast" products out there (including liquid metal for that matter) http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-test-and-review.815439/page-45#post-10782819

 

Do you have a Link please? i would like to order the heatsink ^^

 

Actually no. There is a certain frequency, or rotational speed in your case, where an unbalanced wheel will display maximal jitter, call it the resonance frequency. Outside of that frequency the jitter will be smaller, or non existent. That is how you can tell you car's wheels are in need of balancing: when there is judder at a certain speed only and if you go slower or faster it goes away. It is fixed by placing weights on the wheel rims at strategic locations to re-balance the weight distribution. They do the same to fans, I have seen they sometimes attach metal clips to one or two fins.

I think you will find that this figure is along the plane, not the Z-axis! I use the 0.2mm compressible pads and they have a lot of issues (eg compressibility works only once).

 

thanks man, seems i was too stupid...

i ordered from two different vendors sine the 1.5mm weren't in stock at the one i ordered the rest.

will wait until i have them all and then repad / pepaste the new system /,,/

cheers and thanks


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