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Why? That's not reality, and also not the way Clevo seems to operate.
How about imaginng Alienware Area51m R(x) WITH Prema! It is too bad Alienware has decided to change course over the years and go in the other direction.
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I think that's the correct timing. Regardless, if it was before or after the acquisition, I do know they soon started leveraging data gathered from users like @Mr. Fox and @Prema, so they could learn how to block modifications on how the machine could be configured in their next "patch" of a BIOS.
It's too bad that Alienware, unlike some Clevo resellers, don't understand what "power-modders" can do in help selling their systems. But from their point of view, perhaps they feel they can achieve the same level of performance or come close without the risk of RTMs by customers mis-configuring a machine.
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That's why I posed the scenario.
Good on Clevo for not blocking BIOS mods but without this one person doing it everyone else would be assed out.etern4l likes this. -
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Exactly. Just as Muscle Car modders don't work for auto firms, computer over-clockers and modders don't necessarily work for manufacturers. That doesn't negate their impact for consumers. Trying to say that two products are about equal at stock, but the other one must not be better because it can be modded for more improvement is an argument that really falls flat. The plain fact is that product can still be modded / improved.
I think the bigger point is that some systems do not block modders from tweaking (regardless if it's one person or an army), and yet other companies like those in this forum topic do. But as I mentioned earlier, I'm sure there are reasons I'm not privy for those decisions.
[ Ending this on my end, since this has been discussed before ]
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Was wondering if anyone has or could test what wattage the 2080 super runs at when only a single 330w power adapter is being used?
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Out of curiosity, just how loud do these fans get under medium or heavy load? Do the fans get distracting enough that they interfere with in-game sounds?
I mean, I know the fans are going to spin up fairly often when playing most games, and I’m not really sensitive to noise. I ask out of mere curiosity since I do see a lot of people comment about needing headphones when they play games on any laptop. -
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Though i always just run it on full speed for gaming and use noise cancelling headphones (Though any kind of headphone should be fine). -
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I’ve done my research and expect fans, and I am pretty used to wearing headphones if worse comes to worst.normand668 and ratchetnclank like this. -
Hi All,
Hope the community here helps me make up my mind. I currently own a A51m R1 with RTX 2060, i9 9900 (non k). I placed an order yesterday for A51m R2 (RTX 2080S, 10900K). After placing the order, I decided to try cancelling it and maybe build a desktop or buy R11 or newer model with 3000 series GPU. Most of my PC gaming is FPS or simulation games as I tend to play other games on consoles in 4k (on a larger screen). Dell is unable to cancel my order and I will receive it shortly. I have the option to send it back. Now the thing is once this beautiful beast of a machine arrives, my heart would tell me to keep it but my mind would tell me to return it. What should I do? Is this GPU worth it for 3440x1440 gaming in the near future? I do not play very heavy games on PCs. -
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If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't keep it. You have a decent laptop already. Send it back and wait for another year till the RTX 3XXX laptops are out.Aroc and Fire Tiger like this. -
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Or if you can have a desktop they are always the better option. -
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My computer crashes after about 15 minutes @ -125mV, I believe I've seen some people able to go that far while stable, any thoughts?
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Out of the box seems to be performing around a 2070 Refresh. It had a max TDP of 122W while running the benchmark.sniffin likes this. -
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If I recall correctly my regular 115W 2070 does around 8400 graphics points, so thats 1000 points less than a regular 2070, a 2070 Refresh should do a bit better than mine.
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The max tdp seems low for the 2070 super it should pull 150w which would explain the low score. Is the performance profile set to high performance?
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But yours scores better on FireStrike, for now my 2070 only gets 21860 Graphics score on FS.
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A stock RX 5700 (non-XT desktop) gets about 23.1K Firestrike GPU score, so this 5700M seems to not be very far off, which it shouldn't be as they are pretty much identical in specs.
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Got my area 51 R2 today and after playing with it for couple of hours I've noticed some strange issues:
1) Buzzing electrical sound when I move mouse. Identical to an example in this video,its not coming from speakers/headphones just from the chassis itself -
Tested this mouse on an old laptop and it works fine. Also the polling rate seems to affect the volume of this sound.
2) Fans have a strange behavior: They run normal for 10 mins at around 35-40% in balancing mode, then there is a sound like smth was unplugged and fans stop working as shown on the picture. After some random time in silent mode there is a sound like smth was plugged in and fans start to work normally. The screenshot is here - https://imgur.com/a/YTUNmSd
3) There is a constant electrical sound which is not related to speakers or headphones.
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Here comes the 3DM FireStrike scores...
3DMark Fire Strike leadeboard for 2080 Super
For now. Not correct. Neither was it for R1.
Edit. Be inspired...
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I got my second R2 and the main issues that I had with the first one are present on this one two. Dell told me that the touchpad on the first one was faulty and needed to be replaced; now, I doubt that to be true.
1) Holding a button down on the touchpad for 3 seconds will result in erratic movement of the cursor; things go back to normal after 5 seconds of not touching the touchpad. This makes two handed dragging and dropping very annoying.
2) With Tobii on, two finger scrolling behaves abnormally in various apps; in some it is inhibited, in some super slow, and in some super fast. Tobii confirmed via email that they have problems with Synaptics touchpads and have removed "Scroll to gaze" settings from the app. It appears though that the functionality is still on and nothing but disabling Tobii fixes the scrolling.
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2) This sounds normal the fans do make a small thudding like sound as they start and stop.
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2) My two finger scrolling seems to work but i've only ever tested on chrome since i barely use the trackpad.
I know it doesn't fix your issue but could you not use a mouse?
Some people on reddit seem to have some success installing windows precision drivers onto their Area 51m R1's. You could give it a shot? https://www.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/bi3cmt/precision_drivers_on_area_51m/Papusan and Spartan@HIDevolution like this. -
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I just realised that the mouse doesn't jump erratically after touching the trackpad for a second or two. It goes where your eyes are looking.
It's a tobii "feature"
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Has anyone bought the area 51 m r2 with a 4k pannel ?
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I have and not had any issues, overall I've been pleased as it suits my use better than a lower resolution monitor with higher refresh rate, though I respect and agree that is best for gaming generally.
My friend at work now has an R2 with the 300Hz monitor so its been interesting to make the comparison in person couple days ago. Beautiful screen in response and silky smooth, though definitely not as bright and you can certainly notice the difference when we had HZD and PSO2 running in 4K simultaneously (obviously he was supersampling) . Overall as expected colour (minute difference) and contrast ratio vs refresh and response, whilst the native resolution looked better than supersampled. Both fantastic however.
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Hey Normand
How are you ?
Well my girlfriend does a lot of video editing so she needs a more recent computer and she doesn't really care so much about the screen, the thing is I enjoy much more playing adventure games than fps so I was wondering if I would not give her mine and order a new one with the 4k screen instead .
My only worries are about the refresh rate for when I game a bit of fps like modern Warfare or overwatch etc .. as well as windows upscaling for applications etc, since Spartan mentioned he had big issues with that I am a bit concerned.
Besides that I am very happy with the computer works very good and the thermals are definitely super good
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