*OFFICIAL* Alienware X Series Owners Lounge and Discussion

His reviews don't offer much value for those who sit on the fence wondering what notebooks they should buy/put the trigger on.
He is an Apple/thin sleek laptop/dongle guy. Apple hate I/O ports and the new X series follow same paths. Of course he was happy with the amount of ports, no num pad and hated the speakers (compared to Apple). The review is as expected. Have no value.

 

Of course he was also happy with the toy keyboard layout. People like him contribute to the ongoing intellectual regression of humanity. Dumbing down is good according to the likes of Dave.

 

Guys stop complaining you dont even own the laptop.

Get out of here, let me enjoy my thin laptop with no ports

 

Me who uses tkl keyboard on my desktop be like

Sent from my SM-F916B using Tapatalk

 

Doesn't matter what you use with the desktop, you may be low on desk space or have no need for a numpad. You can change your mind at any time. With a laptop, all users will be OK with a full keyboard, but obviously not all users will be happy with a TKL - especially not if the layout is rubbish. The only reason for the TKL compromise is the thin design requiring extra fans and vents.

 

haha I have really enjoyed mine too but I do not like the choices Dell are making lately! Comparing the x17 with the r4 and the keyboard and speakers are a big step back! But the new cooling system has been brilliant and the fact they left the 11800h unlocked is not like dell at all! They seem to give with one hand and take away with the other! Maybe x17 r2 will have “upgraded” keyboard layout and decent speakers as a feature

 

Now that I've experience the keyboard issue without the Dell/ Alienware delivery update software it's safe to say that isn't the issue and I'll reinstall the programs.

 

Anyone else having issues with Dell's reward point system? I have $143 pending which was supposed to be credited after 30 days but was not. I opened a ticket with Dell 2 days ago to get my points and as of today promised the issue would be resolved within another 2 days. It was my understanding that if you used a Dell card for your purchase you'd get the points. Otherwise I would have just paid cash upfront.

 

Anyone find a replacement 330 watt power supply for their X17? Since Dell doesn't seem to list the right one. I would never spend a ton of money on a device and go cheap on the peripherals. I've found a lot of power supplies but none with the exact model number mine came with.

 

Dell Canada list it https://www.dell.com/en-ca/work/sho...apd/332-1432/pc-accessories#techspecs_section

Mayb call Dell support.

Edit. Walmart offer the 330w adapter. But not so sure how serious this company is regarding sales of genuine parts https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-330...P-330AB-B-5X3NX-332-1432-Charger-PA/415569079 parts

 

Those reviews are generally only for fanboys.

 

I just wanted the backlit mouse pad part number lol I've been asking for this for a few months now can someone please read the part number off their x17 so I can go buy one for my m17 r4

 

You do know that the M17 R4 and the X17 have differently sized trackpads right? The X17 trackpad is both smaller in height but longer in width.

 

A dremel along with some JB weld says different, lol...

 

Hey guys… been years since I posted

I’m interested in a new X17 Alienware with the 4K screen and and 3080

I work to jobs which are very laxed and im never home. I was lucky enough to snag a Xbox series X before Christmas last year but since im never home… would like something portable

I am a console gamer so I would be using the series2 Elite control to game with. Would Halo infinate run great on this machine… $3500 is a hard Suppository to swallow for a lack luster experience if you catch my drift

 

Yes Halo Infinite will works like butter on this laptop and you can also use the Elite controller via Bluetooth.

 

Best not to swallow a suppository, even you might be tempted for some reason. BTW If you are an online console gamer, you will find yourself brutally wrecked trying to play on a PC with a controller - to say it will be a lackluster experience is a gross understatement , despite better graphics.

 

I’ll be sure to try the whole keyboard and mouse thing… my job has fiber internet… and I most likely would be wired in instead of WiFi…. Still expect to have a bad experience with the controller?

 

Yeah, good connectivity is a pre-requisite, but your issue presumably will be that your opponents would use kb/m which would put you at a huge disadvantage (unless Halo Infinite will match you with console players, which is unlikely). You can switch over to kb/m but it will take a while to become proficient from scratch, during which you will continue being wrecked by kb/m vets.

 

interesting… I thought everything would be crossplay and I would have seamless integration between pc and console

 

Ok, so there will be an option for you to play on a PC with other console people, except it will probably be disabled in lobbies a lot (unless you are playing with friends who won't be afraid of you using kb/m).

https://charlieintel.com/is-halo-infinite-cross-platform-cross-play/119307/

"Even better, those on console worried about PC gamers being in their lobbies have no fear, as we’re sure there will be an option to turn cross-play off like other cross-platform games like in Warzone."

 

The fun have started for those that need repairs. Dell's in-hired tech support continue their fantastic work and probably with blessings from Dell... How Dell proving that they are using Element 31 thermal paste on X series for their customer? dell.com/community/Alienware

Why offer it in new machines if you are pushed back to Dell's standard thermal paste if you need repair? Maybe Dell don't trust that their outsourced/in-hired technicians can use it correct?

 

that is really sad but I wouldn’t trust the technician pasting my laptop either! Luckily my local dell tech just gives me the parts I need and let’s me do it myself

 

Yes this is fine as I'm Good with mods. Yet no one could get me that pesky part number.

 

Wow so much reading to catch up on with all the replies lol.

Yes, still on stock paste for the time being as I wanted to see what the system can do in stock form. The temps are great, in fact fantastic, but I'll still get around to LM'ing it. I run it at 5.0GHz all core when I'm actually utilizing the CPU with encoding etc... but for gaming I have a custom profile with higher frequencies from the stock base with cores 0, 1, 2 and 3 at 50x. The laptop is very stable.

I actually ended up swapping out my 64GB Ballistix 3200MHz CL 16 RAM and put the stock 64GB Kingston 3466MHz CL22 kit back in due to it being a little faster across the board with near identical latencies for the most part.

The stock 64GB (2R) Kingston 3566MHz kit is actually very decent. Surprisingly.

The pins are likely different as it has always been, however, even if it were to fit there's no guarantee that it'd work due to being locked out by software limitations, which is almost always intentional. You can thank NVIDIA for that.

I do have both the 360Hz X17 and the 4K X17, but haven't repasted them yet. You may be able to find an answer to confirm if it'll work way before I get around to LM'ing my X17's though..

Good stuff. You can land a really good deal on a X17 with some creativity and luck with the timing.

From my experience the shiny Ballistix RAM didn't run faster than the stock 3466MHz kit. (Meaning stock for stock without modding the values). I'll post some AIDA screenshots below.

I don't think it does without A/O. I only saw that when I had A/O enabled on my X17.

What were the read/write and copy speeds?

Thanks for posting up the results. What I'll do is post up my AIDA tests in a separate post since this one is overflowing.

Friends in the mainland tell me that AW is like Louis Vuitton over there.

As mentioned so far, from my tests so far, IF and only IF you're getting the 64GB kit, I'd go with the Dell option as you should end up with the Dual Rank 64GB Kingston 3466MHz RAM like I did. Keep an eye out for my test screenshots.

I was hoping for lower latency on my Ballistix kit too. However, at the same time it is laptop RAM after all on a platform that doesn't have prema magic on it, so I guess we have to be realistic about the expectations. I get it though...

Thanks for posting this.

Hey it's nice to see you around @S.K . Long time no see.. hope all is well and staying safe.

i9/4K/3080 config here...You won't have an issue with Halo... my X17 smashes all the games that I throw at it and I play at 4K for giggles. I play Forza 4 and some other games with my Elite 2 controller as well. Very well built and it fits the premium theme of the X17.

 

Those some good numbers with great latency. I wish the XMP would allow it to OC to 3466, that would be awesome and interesting to see how it would translate in this particular platform.

These are two of each, random runs between the Stock vs Ballistix Kits.

So here's the 64GB Ballistix 3200MHz CL16 RAM test:

Run #1:


Run #2:


Ballistix RAM Timings:

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Here's the stock 64GB Kingston 3466MHz CL22 test:

Run #1:


Run #2:


Stock Kingston RAM Timings:


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The stock Kingston 3466 CL22 kit yielded better numbers across the board for me, so in there stock form with XMP ON, the stock 3466/CL22 RAM is still faster than the 3200/CL16 Ballistix's.

Now what I'm curious about is how your RAM with the modded values perform in benches and tests?

When running AIDA64 Mem Tests I pay attention to the 'Copy' speeds as that's what closely indicates real world performance + with the latency playing a role in it as well; however, depending on the delta between the two kits, the latency of the slower RAM would have to be pretty significantly lower to make up for most real world applications, games etc...

For those wanting to use the Ballistix RAM kit in their X17, I've found only the 64GB Kit to work with zero issues. The 16GB and 32GB Ballistix kits gave me issues as any other have experienced as well. - So unless you're going 64GB, don't bother ordering anything but the 64GB with the Ballistix.

Here's something interesting:

So I put the same 64GB Ballistix 3200/C16 RAM kit into my m15 R6 and here are the timings with XMP ON.



With all the content above YMMV, it's RAM after all, which can be very wonky.

 

This means Dell cripple the ram in the newer and more expensive X models.

Here's something interesting:
So I put the same 64GB Ballistix 3200/C16 RAM kit into my m15 R6 and here are the timings.




Edit.
Btw. A huge thread regarding ram and Dell is up and growing on reddit...
Bought 3200mhz Dell Memory for Area 51m and still not able to run 2933mhz wasted 200dollars for this **** never gonna buy alienware again!!!!

 

The stock 3466 kit only looks decent in reference to faster modules which don't perform to the full potential due to a combination of some architectural limitations of the laptop and Gear 2 mode. Whether Gear 2 was set with the intention to cripple fast third party modules and drive sales of own RAM (a strategy which would seem to be working well here) is anyone's guess
Apparently, once Gear 1 is activated using the RU hack, you get 68ns latency with the Ballistix. 20% lower latency is decent, but my m15 R1 with HyperX scores 64ns, and I am pretty sure I saw 51M R2 results in the 50ns ballpark. The main point is that the default latency is abysmal for what you would want to call a "flagship". If we use the 50ns achieved by the 51M R2 as reference, the latency is a ridiculous 66% worse, even if we use my old BGA laptop as a reference it's still 30% worse which beggars belief. The Gear 1 hack helps a lot, but the result is still short of flagship expectations.

At "4000Mhz" they looked about 10% higher than on the 3466 kit. I used quotes since of course that setup was unlikely to be stable or frankly genuine.
The other question here is whether the 10% sequential speed increase is significant in light of the abysmal latency. It's just like with the SSDs: the most important stat is the 4k performance (equivalent to the latency number), not so much sequential read/write speed people tend to focus on.

 

Correct and I agree, which I had specified by saying "...so in there stock form...," the stock kit is faster. It's unfortunate that the RAM is limited and the possible intention to set it at Gear 2 may have been due to shortages and only being able to obtain mediocre RAM that wouldn't be able to handle much beyond its loose settings. - It's how desktop RAM works in a way, where the higher binned kits end up being sold as better binned of the lower clocked mid-low tier RAM that didn't make the cut.

The 68ns latency is pretty good given the circumstances. It could definitely be better. Having the ability to even tweak it is pretty fortunate. At least it's not the 51m R1 2400 lock out nightmare.

What was the speed of the 51m R2 Ram that had the 50ns latency? That's really good for a laptop. - I'm just curious if we're comparing 3200MHz vs 3466MHz laptop memory, because if that's the case, the faster kit will have a higher latency with looser timings than the 3200 kit so it's hard to compare them apples to apples. If that 51m R2 was running at 3466 with 50ns then that's a very different story.

I'll see what this stock 3466/cl22 kit can do with the Gear 1 hack. I've just been really busy lately.

Maybe on the next rainy day I can test this kit at 4000 to see if stability can be obtained. - So far though, the X17 has been flawless with very little to complain about.

Have you ran Time Spy, Cinebench R20 & R23 yet with the tuned RAM?

 

56ns @3200MHz with HyperX, 61ns stock.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-alienware-area-51m-r2-owners-lounge.832848/page-260 at the bottom.

I don't remember the numbers we got with HyperX at Gear 1 in the x17, but they were worse than the 68ns achieved with Ballistix.

As you can see higher frequency does not imply worse latency. My HyperX/2666MHz scores 64ns, HyperX running at 3200Mhz scores 56ns (in a memory-challenged desktop replacement laptop albeit running newer modules).

The story wouldn't necessarily be very different at 3466MHz. Obviously latency depends on the CL and other timings, the clock frequency, and - as the X17 demonstrates - other architectural factors (the use of mobile phone technology in the motherboard is still my best guess as to what's to blame lol).

 

Thanks for the link. I've looked at the data on the AIDA screenshots in that post.

Looking at the Read, Writes and Copy speeds, with that 3200 kit at 20-22-22-42, it's significantly slower than the stock 3466/CL22 kit in my X17.

Also, that kit was running at 53X/43x on the CPU where as my X17 when tested was running at 50x/40x.

Given all the variables here I'd be curious to do some identical benches to try an translate all of this to real life performance, despite the awesome 56.1ns latency. Hmm... pretty intriguing... I'm really curious now, because that'll be a sure way to tell how what we see on paper translates to real world performance gains, if any with the 3200/cl20 56.1ns lat RAM vs the stock 3466/cl22 kit.

What I had meant was that you can't really compare a 3200/timings vs 3466/timings, apples to apples. Even on desktop RAM you'll always be able to achieve tighter timings with lower latency on a lower frequency. It has always been proportional in that regard with RAM.

With laptops being even more limited we have another level of issues and walls. Either way, this mobile phone technology baked on pepperoni (CPU) and sausage (GPU) is pretty potent for what it is, providing way more than enough power than what most need.

I just welcome and celebrate the ability to even be able to tweak the RAM at all, which is pretty exciting.

 

If you look at the "i" icon in AIDA64 next to the read/write/copy columns it clarifies that those are sequential access benchmarks, i. e. idealised scenarios. Latency is the more reliable raw performance measure. Sure, improved sequential access is nice, but not at a cost to latency.

CPU clocks should not matter - case in point: my 64ns is achieved at 39x

Impact on real-life performance will mostly correlate with latency, unsurprisingly with the exception of workloads that rely on sequential access to large amounts of data (Optimus; video editing perhaps?)°

Re the last part of your post, let's not confuse timings (such as CAS Latency measured in clocks) with effective latency typically measured in ns- the latter should be proportional to CL/clock frequency.

 

I get what you're saying, but frequency does matter in a weird way. RAM is very complicated. Those idealized scenarios are indeed just that, however, out of those scenarios the value for the, "Copy" is the closest that resemble real world performance along with latency.

Latency alone isn't everything. Sure it plays a big role in the overall performance of the RAM, but the frequency is also important.

Frequency is how fast information can travel and Latency is how fast it can translate that process. At a certain point, no matter how low your latency is, if the frequency is really slow, a RAM with a higher latency with a higher frequency will almost always come out faster in real world usage scenarios. There's a ratio there to be considered were at a certain point one will exceed the other.

Also keep in mind that we're talking nanoseconds here... not actual seconds etc....

A prime example would be the two kits that I've tested.

3200/CL16 vs 3466/CL22

Simply put, 100% of all the benches that I've tested and games that I've played scored/performed higher with the 3466/CL22 kit. It did not matter that the 3200/CL16 kit had lower timings with slightly better latency (nanoseconds). It's not enough to make a difference in this scenario.

Again, RAM is very complicated and it's one of the most overlooked pieces of hardware on a system and often the most misunderstood. Heck, I'm still learning something new all the time even though I've spent way too many hours (more than I care to admit lol) tuning desktop RAM...

In layman's term for other readers that are interested in this topic, when it comes to laptop RAM and due to how goofy laptops can be in general, IF you have multiple kits just simply test them and see what produces the best results. Simple as that.

In my scenario the stock Kingston 3466/CL22 produced the best results, therefore, I'm sticking with it until there is something that can produce better results. I'll get around to the Gear 1 mod when I can. Looking forward to it.

 

There is still a bit of a confusion between frequency and latency.

Latency as measured by AIDA, is not a separate concept to frequency. As mentioned earlier, it is a function of timings such as CL and clock frequency. If you hold timings constant and increase frequency, latency will decrease. We also know that the latency is a function of other variables such as Gear mode, chipset, and most likely the internal design of the system.

Basically AIDA latency should be a proxy for a cost of a single random memory access. If you access more data around the same address, the operation is no longer random and the net cost if data access is lower, which is what the continguous I/O AIDA benchmarks capture.

The fact that the latency is measured in ns makes sense if you understand that the latency of a single CPU instruction ranges from a fraction of a ns, up to the RAM latency number. Basically, once there are cache misses, RAM latency completely dominates computation time, which is why RAM latency is so important.

Now because the laptop is crippled such that lower CL modules end up operating at the same effective latency as Dell 3466, indeed the higher clock would win in the end - no surprises there.

I don't agree it's a good time to be a consumer, especially an AW fan. There is not a single Dell laptop I'm excited about. Chip shortages cause delays and price hikes. It's a mess.

 

As previously stated I get what you're saying and think that we have a pretty good grasp on how works.

When it comes to the RAM kits that are being referenced here, all I'm saying is that when both were tested, the 3466/CL RAM performed better in all tests compared to the 3200/CL16.

If the 3200/CL16 performed better I would be using that kit in my X17 right now, but it did not perform better so that 3200/CL16 kit is in my R6 instead where it lives happily at its native 3200 XMP.

RAM latency is indeed important, however, it's not the only thing that determines performance when it comes to RAM.

With all technicalities aside, at the end of the day if RAM Kit (A) performs better than RAM Kit (B), regardless of how good it looks on paper, then it's the obvious choice to go with the faster RAM Kit (A). I don't know how else to simplify it.

If there is another RAM Kit out there that becomes available that works better in the X17, then I'll be the first in line to order it. Until then this stock kit is working just fine.

In regard to if it's a good time to be a consumer, I have a different view in that it's a very exciting time to be a consumer with all the latest hardware and competition. These 8 core / 3080 options out there are strong performers and there are a lot to choose from. It really boils down to what you're looking for to suit your usage habits.

IMO I think the X17 checks the most boxes. This system has been near flawless, at least for me. It runs cool (still on stock paste), able to tune it, pretty powerful, has an amazing bright 4K 120Hz screen, plenty of storage, RAM, mechanical keyboard, and looks good.

The World is your oyster. There's 'gotta' be something out there that checks your boxes for your usage & needs? What is it that you're looking for? If it's a modular system, then the choices are what it has always been.

What laptop do you use currently?

 

Our requirements are obviously very different. My main driver is an m15 R1, it's close to perfection. My requirements are:

* 15 inch or so
* At least 2 RAM slots
* CPU / GPU performance close to class-leading
* Ideally weight under 4kg or so
* 99Whr and Optimus or MUX / long battery life
* A good selection of ports including HDMI and mDP
* Ability to connect at least one eGPU
* Full keyboard layout, membrane is absolutely fine, II don't spend long periods of time pressing AWSD
* Ideally more of a professional rather than gamery look
* Tank-grade chassis build, as I use the laptop on the go a lot
* Memory latency around 60ns or better for crying out loud, supports HyperX RAM or better without any hacks
* Good quality FHD IPS screen, 144Hz (or frankly 60Hz) is enough, don't care about Gsync
* No throttling after a non-LM repaste
* Non-inverted motherboard for ease of repaste/maintenance
* Modular WiFi

The m15 R1 ticks all the boxes except battery life since the battery got dumbed down to 87Whr. No other AW laptop has come close to being a match since. Other Dell laptops are not doing well either.

 

The true problem here is people expectation of what Alienware used to be VS what they could be VS what they dream it was.

Aka

Top tier quality control
Top tier customatisation
Top tier thermals
Top tier techs
Top tiers feature (For portable user, and Desktop replacement user)
Top tiers performance
Small and lightweight BUT tanky and sturdy
Modular Ram, SSD, CPU, GPU, EGPU, WiFi

Does that seem's realistic to you?
It doesn't. Even clevo can't manage to offer such laptop in this current day and age.

While i agree that Dell could delivers better on some of these aspects (QC, thermals) just to name a few.
I still think they still offer one of the better performing laptop year after year, with the latest techs and good looking tanky laptop.

Is it perfect? **** no, but i don't know any other companies who make perfect laptop and i've tried hem all (Msi, asus,acer,lenovo,clevo,Dell)
And in my own opinion, Dell makes some of the best currently available laptop on the market.
Who's care if my ram runs at 67NS instead of 60NS? My current Strix G17 runs at freaking 75NS with the best available memory kit and i still smash noob all day long on Warzone. it's not just a problem on Dell part, it's a wide spread problem that almost ALL laptop have with ram nowadays and to be honest does it really make that HUGE of a difference? No it doesn't.

Nowadays you guys complain about no backlight on Keyboard secondary key and Ten keyless design as well as Gear 2 mode for ram. While i understand these may be frustrating are they deal breaker? Not for me, if it is for you i guess there are other laptop you can buy. Good thing there isn't a shortage of manufacturers. Try another brand and let me know what else you don't like there because all laptop have problems.

Maybe this model is simply not tailored to your needs and you need something else?

I'm kind of tired to open this topic and see the same 2-3 guys who don't own the laptop come and smash owners.
If you don't like it, don't buy it and move on with your days. If you have constructive things to say or seek to help other people go ahead but it's really ****in depressing to read you guys all day long.

And before you guys say "I complain because i care and used to love Alienware", Alienware was bought by Dell 14 years ago. I think it's time to move on with the past. It's not the company it used to be but it's not **** either and you have to accept that.

Constructive feedback is always welcome and if you want Alienware to change some of their habits, they won't do it by listening to a vocal minority who's saying their laptop is **** for the past 14 years. I talked a lot with Umar and Frank Azor about problems on the original 51m and while they did not fix all of the problems we had, They listened, acknowledged some of the problems and actually fixed some because of our great feedback.

 

You obciously take things way too personally. Nobody is smashing anyone, if you read the posts carefully.

20-30% drop in RAM peformance may not seem like much to you, but it might to other gamers, not to mention. prosumers who also buy AW laptops. It doesn't seem like an insurmountable industry-wide issue, if you can modify the BIOS to switch to Gear 1 mode and you get 68 instead of 83ns latency!...

The point of my earlier post was that barely 2 years (rather than 14y) ago Dell/AW managed to come up with an almost perfect laptop, and it's sad they can't do it now. They need constructive feedback online.

 

If you think this is me "taking things way too personally" than you've missed my whole point.

 

Didn't miss anything. Your point could be summarised as "Personally, I'm annoyed by negative comments about my laptop. Whatever dude, RAM performance doesn't matter, everyone has this problem, Dell is still the best, don't expect too much, move on"....

 

Exactly you've missed the whole point.

I'm gonna say it, i'm not surprised.

 

What is the elusive point then? Why are you not surprised?

 

1. Your expectation of Alienware laptop are not realistic.
2. Not all laptop are tailored to your need, maybe this model is just not made for you and you should look somewhere else.
3. Constructive feedback is what this thread needs and Smashing new owner or saying Dell make crippled, slow, bad or **** laptop is not constructive.
4. While the X17 is not a perfect laptop, it's still a very good laptop and is perfectly fine for some if not most user.

 

1. Again, I own a barely 2 years old AW laptop which meets my expectations almost perfectly. It follows that my expectations are very realistic. Same goes with the RAM: we know that x17 RAM can run faster, it's that Dell chose to configure things such that it doesn't.
2. Thanks for the advice l, but as you said - Dell are the best, so I would rather Dell upped the game and produced a viable 15 inch laptop again
3. Again (and for the last time): nobody is "smashing" new owners. Maybe you can point to some quotes where someone got "smashed" personally?
4. Sure, that was never in doubt (just take a look at the AW reddit). People who are not fine with the laptop don't buy it or return it.

 

Several of us have already made the same comment as you but it’s fallen of deaf ears unfortunately and we were accused of taking it personally as well. It was eventually established that he/she enjoys moaning about Dell/Alienware in their spare time as a hobby. Each to their own I suppose. I just ignore it now. Not worth wasting your time over.

One other thing I’ve noticed was back when the reviews started coming out, a MashIT review was posted onto this thread. Because it didn’t align with their views about it being a “bad” laptop people accused the reviewer of being biased and therefore he must be sponsored because he didn’t critique it enough. Funny thing is when @ninja2000 from MashIT started posting on this thread they’re quiet as a mouse. Why don’t they ask him instead of throwing accusations around? Hmmmm

 

1. And this is totally up to preference, i thought the M15 R1 was a pretty MEH laptop and did not meet my expectations and i din't come here to say negative **** all the time about that model.
2. What i said is "Dell" still make "Some" of the best laptop and while ALL their laptop are not tailored to my personnal preference, the Area-51M was perfect for my needs and i'm sure the x17 will be as well.
3. I've seen 2-3 guys say some ****ed up **** in this thread to new buyer, if the hats fit, wear it.

I agree that Dell should fix the ram problem tho. That i can totally agree with you.
Is it that big of a deal right now? Sure not would it be nice if they fixed it? Of course.

 

When we tested both gears in our Rocket Lake review, we noticed Gear 2 took a noticeable toll on system latency, directly impacting gaming performance. We tested a Core i5-11600K with Gear 1 mode featuring DDR4-2933 RAM, and DDR4-3200 RAM for Gear 2. Despite the faster memory speeds on Gear 2, we found that Gear 1 was consistently faster, with 5% better gaming performance.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gear-4-mode-tested-on-alder-lake

 

You didn't come here to discuss the laptop, but jumped straight into personal attacks at people who raise concerns about your new toy - have a think about that. Given the tone of the conversation, it ends now on my end.

 

*I'm getting a pepsi and popcorn this thread is so good right now lol*

 

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