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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by ssj92, Jan 8, 2019.

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    The issue is you were refusing to even listen to what the Pros are trying to explain. Next time, give people a chance and be open to discussion so you won't put yourself in such a situation. Cheers. Here's a good one for you to cheer you up right now....

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    Yep - was waiting for this. Upscaling fools quite a few people that aren't aware of it.

    DSR is great when it works, but I know for some reason it causes the A51M at least in my case to "jitter" a bit with Overwatch, even at like 1.2. Kerbal Space Program OTOH, looks fantastic and has no issues with it. What I dislike is its a global setting, and this means if anything has issues with it you have to remember to turn it on and off per application : /
     
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    Another update with new info, in caes anyone is following.

    I've been checking every morning and the drain occurs only on Wednesday and Saturday night. I guess my next step is to simply reimage or clean install OS, since Dell support is both inndifferent and incompetent. I haven't heard back from them for about two weeks, now.

    I thought that was noteworthy, though. 6% drain overnight, but only on certain days.
     
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    I recently did a clean install and took an image. I had to then go back to that image a few days later and I haven't noticed any battery drain since. I haven't actively changed any setting to try and eliminate the random battery drain either.
     
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    The battery drain on Wednesday and Saturday corresponds with the scheduled secret backdoor personal data upload to Dell and the Compal factory in China.
     
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    I have 0% battery drain. I turn off my laptop every night and even turn off the power switch of the electricity. I have my Xbox 360 controller connected all the time and my Samsung T5 Portable SSD connected via Thunderbolt.

    I'm on BIOS 1.5.0 and have disabled USB Powershare.

    Clean install of Windows 10 by the way
     
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    Same here - I have checked it repeatedly and so far no sign of it.
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Have both of you eliminated the Dell Support Assist crap, or whatever they're calling that virus now?
     
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    No, I don't need to eliminate SupportAssist or Dell Update since I don't install them to start with ;)
     
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    That's because you're smart. But, you eliminated it by doing a clean install.
     
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    I have not personally done so, least not that I recall. I will reconfirm if I have it on or not.

    EDIT: I disabled it, I recall now doing a pass on loading programs etc. and turned it off, so that's likely it.
     
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  12. Fire Tiger

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    I have Support Assist installed but changed the service to manual instead of automatic.
     
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    Finished repasting. Success so far after 1.5 hrs of The Division 2 (since its the only game that maximizes my GPU and CPU usage...). Fun fact, this machine has better idle temps than the GS65. Some reason it was much easier to take apart this time around and the last time was a year ago.

    Anyone know if its worth switching from Killer AX1650x card to Intel AX200?
     
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    They're basically the same card but with Killer firmware. If you follow this guide, the result will be 100% the same, disable and prevent any Killer crap from installing:
    Guide: Killer Software / Extension Un-installation and Blocking

    I don't even know that I have a Killer card anymore, the Killer Control Center never auto installs and I never get the darn Killer Networking Extensions through Windows Update
     
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    Atticus8817 Notebook Guru

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    Tweet from Umar at Alienware:

    Been getting asks about the upgrade kits for Alienware Area-51m. "Why isn't it available online?" We will be holding off offering it when "Installations from Home" are viable again to ensure the safety of both you and the technician.
     
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    I replaced my Killer 1550 for the AX200, can't say I notice any difference. I don't have a wifi 6 router yet.

    As @Spartan mentioned, I'd just use that method to block it unless you have a wifi 6 router then you might notice an improvement.
     
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    He also has a bridge to sell too, don't forget!
     
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    Huh? The Killer AC1650 and the AX200 are the same WLAN Card, both support WiFi6
     
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    Yes you are correct I read it as 1550 :(!
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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  21. Sup3rKillaX

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    Do you have gigabit internet? Are you more than 30 ft away from router? If no. Then no don't switch it.

    Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    None should use any of Dell's bloatware. On top it's a huge security problem! http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ts-and-incidents.816109/page-28#post-10989928
    And they didn't bother with all those who prefer install it themself without help from Dell's technician. Just remove it from the webpage without a notice. Fantastic! Proprietary solutions will never be a good thing. From what I remember, you could just install it yourself without the need for any of their technicians. This smells.
     
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    I do have gigabit and a wifi 6 setup where I am usually 30ft away or so.

    Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
     
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    Just curious if you can really in most cases see a difference, regardless I just ordered a Killer 1650 card... for the cost its a no-brainer.
     
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    No reason to feel bad, EVERYONE all over the world is going to be having more then their share of "Moments" like these for a while now, everyone's brain has COVID-19 fog right now. :)
     
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    I've had em all bro.

    Best range/speed overall = Killer AC1535
    Best *theoretical speed* but with crappy range = Killer AC1650/Intel AX200
    Killer AC1550 = crappy range decent speed minus the hyped Wifi6 speeds which I saw 0 difference in since you literally have to be next to the router to benefit from it and anyway you are limited to the speed of your ISP unless all you do is copy files over the network all day long
     
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    And, on top of the security problems, that Support Assist is just utterly worthless garbage that is an absolute waste of every sector of drive space that it occupies.
     
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    BTW, when it does some Voodoo magic saying it just optimized my network, any idea WTF did it do? :rolleyes:
     
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    LOL was thinking this sounded familiar... it's what I have in my desktop...
     
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    Probably opened ports so it can freely transfer the data it harvests from your computer to Dell and install trackers with no interference from your firewall.
     
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    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    They should be offering two separate options/prices, 1) tech installed and 2) parts only w/ parts only pricing.
     
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    Not sure on wireless speeds, but my ISP uncapped a lot of stuff and finally seeing roughly 78MB/sec downloads on wireless. As for wifi6, the big gain for me is little to no disconnects when having same distance and setup as my wifi5 setup before.

    Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
     
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    well you will be disappointed with the range.
     
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    Only if I keep on the 6E standard. Otherwise the lack of disconnects is already a huge plus and congestion with 16 devices is no longer an issue.

    Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
     
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    Have you guys seen the new xmg that has 3950x amd cpu? It has 16 cores.

    This should crush 51m into the ground right?
     
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    [​IMG]

    Sager and Clevo
     
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    Whilst on the chat of wifi and speeds.... any reason or idea why my laptop averages around 150Mbps where my phone which is right next to that laptop is doing more than double that at 384Mbps? Almost certain it used to get over 200Mbps.
     
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    Guide: Killer Software / Extension Un-installation and Blocking
     
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    It does crush 9900K, and it's a 15 inch laptop!! Alienware m15 R2 with Alienware Soldered RAM (TM) anyone?
     
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    Yeah, this is making me think I might just throw it in the drawer for now quite frankly. I won't miss $30.00.

    Sorry for double post - isn't this likely the phone supports the WiFi-6 standard, while the lappy doesn't?
     
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    I would pay $30 USD just to NOT have to deal with putting those freakin' Antenna clips into place. These kinda things make me lose my temper. Oh and if you want me to lose my $$$$, juet give me a hard to untangle shoelace and I go nuts....

    Spartan's patience level = [​IMG]
     
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    Gosh, I got confused and thought this had the Renoir laptop CPU. Nope, it has the 16 core desktop 3950x, and it does shred current and probably upcoming Intel CPUs in multicore benchmarks. We'll see what Dell's response will be. BTW 3200MHz RAM :D

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...ld-s-first-Ryzen-9-3950X-laptop.459563.0.html
     
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    :D I hate those with a passion !!
     
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    I think they both do? Its a Samsung Galaxy S10 and the laptop has the AX200 card.
     
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    at 8:35 Dave lists 10th gn laptops and shows the 15/17/area 51 with 10th gen
     
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    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    I want to see what it can do in 65w ECO mode
     
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