*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

860 evo is a SATA ssd. It doesn't even stand in the same league as the slowest NVMe ssd. SATA ssd drives are bottlenecked by the sata protocol's max data limit (around 600MB per second). NVMe ssd drives are generally WAY faster (in this particular case, roughly 3 times faster than max SATA limit).

 

Its 4 times faster... 500 Mbps vs 2000 Mbps.... night and day! Cheaper than a 860 Evo too, that's why I bought it in the first place.

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That's awesome. Maybe I'll get one then! How's reliability? Did you have a link for proper heatsinks that will fit the 51M?

 

I would say the drive is very underrated, having used it for one month, it's been nothing short of awesome. I had Dell default heat sinks bought from Hidevolution when I first ordered the system.

As of right now, I've two Area 51m in my possession. So, I've two of everything at this very moment. Two i7s, two 2080s, two 144Hz screens and even two heatsinks.... Damn!

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Only issue with NVMe is heat, when its near boiling temps SATA based SSD perform almost on-par. You will see that Random read/write on SATA will be superior than severely hot NVMe drives be it from Samsung or Micron or ADATA or SK Hynix.
Then Crucial P1 is very underrated and so is the 660p. Only issue is, the SLC caching isn't adjustable.

 

So did u finally figure out why the first one just died ?

 

So which one are you keeping? Do a motherboard and DGFF 2080 cross analysis and check out what works best in your case (including the CPU. One should work better than the other. Same goes for DGFF).

 

I found a Dell original m.2 heatsink on eBay. Guess that works. ;-)

 

Dumb question but when you go to download drivers for the GPU, do I chose “2070 notebook” or just regular 2070.

 

I am thinking of keeping both! Hehe

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Yes. It was spilled LM that Hidevolution applied on my system. Their "foam dam" was just a disgrace to all the enthusiasts!

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I just use the latest nvidia drivers really. Works great for me!

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Guys, did anyone know how to check my laptop is GSYNC or not? In Nvidia Control Panel, I didn't see any Gsync option on the left hand side menu. Even I tried remove the Nvidia driver by DDU and reinstall it again with latest version, the Gsync option is still missing.
When I go to Dell service page to check information (image below), my display is panel LG LGD05E2, 144Hz. My current bios is 1.6.2 with 180w vbios.

 

I don't think you have g-sync mate, even my dell orders say g-sync everywhere where the screen is mentioned.

 

Well, I just contact with the seller to checked the order detail, so yeah seems like they didn't order my laptop with gsync option...

 

I like to manually install my drivers. The options are notebook 2070 and desktop 2070.

I’m pretty sure all area 51ms come with gsync.

 

I don't think so. In the Dell configuration, they offer 4 choices: 60/144Hz with or without Gsync.

 

LM on aluminium?? Where exactly was the LM spread , processor or gpu ?

 

It was on the processor mate, they had applied it too much so spillage was apparent. The GPU had Gelid Extreme. You should have seen the way thermal pads were applied, SK has already shared the image of his internals he got from Hidevolution before, I chose not to do the same.

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Both will work just fine actually, I'm using desktop driver at the moment. Just use DDU to avoid any complications.

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You're sure? You ordered an application that is not their usual way?

 

Gsync is a paid option and not on all models

The GPU is this system is a desktop chip and not the notebook one.

 

I'm 100% sure. There was LM on my processor and I saw it fly out of the "foam dam"... I will not flame any business on a public forum for no reason, that is neither my character nor my agenda.

I would encourage everyone here to deal with guys like Donald from Hidevolution because he truly is a gem! But... I would never suggest their thermal upgrades based on my own personal experience.

My stock Area51m runs 5-7C cooler at stock than the Hidevolution model I received. Says a lot really...

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And to be honest, it's no big deal at all. I have rarely used it and I find it pointless (unless I'm missing something?)
I really don't see the difference in "smoothness" like people claim... or may be I'm getting old...

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The smoothness is there my friend. Take a high end gpu and let it mate with a 144hz screen. That’s how magic babies are formed.

Man I didn’t even notice that. 60hz is such a waste. Hope you get it corrected.

Thanks friend. I cant believe they even offer a garbage 60hz screen.

 

Fact of the matter is:

Dell has quality control and machine assisted application of thermal paste/pads and heatsinks, whereas HIDEvolution is just a bunch of dudes tearing other people's systems apart, applying “thermal upgrades” in a half-assed, careless manner.

The ONLY way to see thermal upgrade benefits is to do it right, carefully. Unless you do it or have a friend or trusted person that can do that and is very detail and quality oriented, you won’t see better results.

Third party thermal upgrades most likely will result in one of several things:

- poorly executed = higher or same temps, and you lost your money that you could have used to buy what you need and do it yourself.
- risk of something being damaged = done by someone that doesn’t really care, it’s not their system.
- risk of something not being applied correctly = your laptop dies because of spilled liquid metal, poorly applied thermal upgrades that burn memory, voltage regulators, or something else.

In my opinion, and I think it’s actually fact, thermal upgrades by any company are always not worth your money or the risk associated with the “custom builder” putting your pristine laptop back together as well as it came from factory.

I have a friend that ordered an ASUS laptop like this before (with “upgrades”) and he had ALL sorts of trouble. RAM was ****/untested and had errors out of the box, touchpad was left disconnected, screen flexes and WiFi antenas were pinched and partially severed due to being routed incorrectly at the hinge. Just a friggin’ nightmare.

These “custom shops” are just that; CUSTOM. I can personally tell you that they don’t read up on the manuals and get certified like (for example) Dell technicians. Even then, Dell technicians usually show up to your house and have NEVER seen or worked on your cutting-edge, top of the line, $4000 laptop because they are fairly uncommon. This is enthusiast land. Not mainstream.

NO ONE should EVER buy upgrades or have ANY custom builder tear your system apart aside from installing ram and or disks. Everything else (CPU/GPU/thermal pads/paste/paint jobs) is super high risk and a total gamble.

 

I guess I got lucky and don’t need the repaste. I haven’t seen my temps get beyond 75c on either the cpu or gpu. I have a 9700k/2070. All my other alienwares were getting to 100c and then throttle down.

 

Thanks a lot ! And there are recommended settings for voltage and others ? Thanks

 

Then the tech haven't followed HID's Guidelines for the laptops with socket hardware. Maybe a new person have put up your machine (Being good is the same as you learn from your fault). But this isn't the same as say HID usually do a bad job. If they did I would have seen it several times and long time ago (and I follow the most ). + I know Donald and HID normally do a very good job on their products. Time after time.

 

So u mean point blank that HID used LM on ur processor directly on top of IHS making contact with Heatsinks that’s aluminium ?

Also I remember u opened the system to change the thermal pads way before the system died , which means u would have seen the LM on the processor since the heatsink had to go off, so did U reapply LM and cover it back or u cleaned the LM applied that’s corrosive to the aluminium and not in the options on HID config and put a normal paste ?

Cos truly if I saw LM applied on my processor that’s making contact with aluminium heatsink , then I won’t be coupling that system back without pictoral evidence and onward attack and onslaught towards the vendor, LM on heatsink is instant death

 

Nope, I also don't feel the difference between G-Sync or Off. But it never gave me the wow factor that I anticipated after seeing its demos and ads. If it's there as an option, well and good, if it isn't, I wouldn't miss it one bit. Just my 2 cents.

 

As I prepare for my new laptop I am wondering what else I should consider doing to it besides:

S.K's
Thermal Pad Upgrade Guide for Alienware Area-51m

and

Ultra Male's
"Are you sure you want to run this file?" [Yes or No]

I have also seen Ultra Male's list of recommended programs for maintenance/some tools that are useful:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1389#post-10933011

and

S.K's post on
Disable power saving

 

I wouldn’t recommend changing anything with the thermals just yet until you test it. My stock thermals have been great.

 

There's also these if you have the patience, of you could opt for an Ultra Male Tweaking Session

NBR Windows 10 Clean Installation Guide
Windows 10 Tweaks and Fixes (Index post #1)
O&O ShutUp10 - Do not use Windows 10 without it!
Macrium Reflect Installation/Usage Guide
The best and fastest way to backup your data!

 

What is a/are good program(s) to stress test it.

 

Realbench, heaven benchmark, and nothing beats playing your favorite game for a few hours.

Edit: Spelling

 

To anyone that bought their Area 51m with an SSD...
When you purchase an Area51m with and SSD does it come with this heatsink?

 

My new system came with 2 × 256GB Raid 0 config and both had heat sink with thermal pads installed from the factory.

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Which BIOS and VBIOS should I use for an i9-9900k+RTX 2080 build? I keep getting throttled unless I set the thermal settings to "full speed".

 

You'll feel the difference in the future when FPS starts dropping as the games get more demanding, but as long as the frame rate is above 60 FPS, it's difficult to see the difference. But at times it is noticeable (very slightly) but it's no big deal unless one has a visual OCD problem.

I think you need to take it apart sooner or later because there are at least 3 places where there should be thermal pads installed but are not installed, even though the heat sink is designed to have thermal pads on those areas.
1: The 2 hidden mosfets under the beauty cover on DGFF board that are on top side the 2 ribbon connectors (if you put DGFF side towards yourself such that those 2 connectors are on your left side). It takes 3mm pad there.
2: The 2 chokes close to the second stage inlet mosfets that are between the DGFF and the CPU side cooling fan (they take 1mm each).

If you are like me, you'd also want some stick-on micro heat sinks on all your power inlet mosfets, your thunderbolt controller and every other chip that is susceptible to getting hot. But these are over-kill at least for me because my inlet mosfets are NIKOS PK616BA which are way beefier than the usual AON-6380's that are on there.

I'm on Bios 1.3.2 and VBios 1.0.0.2 but I have noticed similar performance on 1.5.0 and 1.0.0.3 so it's really upto you. Both 1.0.0.2 and 1.0.0.3 are 200W VBios's btw.

I have made a post (on request of a friend) regarding how to get rid of Windows Delivery Optimization service in a thread here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ry-optimisation-service-in-windows-10.829756/
You guys might also be interested in it.

 

Depends what response time in ms...not only the speed counts..if is mlc, tlc..

New AWCC after update my vents don t start on idle and laptop stays on 38°,45°, 51° depends on wich core work or not..

 

This is a direct comparison between 860 evo and 660p 2TB, so it's not a generic discussion going on here.

 

Are you sure this is accurate?
Notebookcheck lists their panel as a LGD05E2. The one you listed above is a LGD05E0.

I know the Area 51m is available with two 144hz options - one with and without G-sync. I would assume they use different panels.

Just trying to figure out what this panel is actually like. The contrast figures on the NBC Area 51m review are horrible. But I'm seeing other A51 reviews which list the contrast around the 1000+ mark (in line with the 'official' LGD05E0 figures on Panelook.

Out of interest, a Lenovo Y740 9th Gen owner has confirmed that their new machine came with a LGD05E0 too.
So what the hell is the LGD05E02 Notebookcheck listed? Perhaps they received a very early sample? Or they thought they had a G-sync machine when they didn't?

 

All internal pictures I know of show the heat sink being copper not aluminum. Did they change to aluminum to cheap out??

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wanna bet i actually told the truth?
I am gonna leave the states on the 22nd.
I'm from Europe.
If they receive the part on the 22nd (bought premium 1yr,fyi) ,and i have the flight on the 22nd..who the crap will be here with the laptop on the 23rd or whenever they decide to waste time for repairs?
And I wonder....why didn't they just QC a single benchmark on a 3000+dollar laptop?

were the techs unable to install uniengine like i did? It would take 5 minutes.

problem:
initial situation: https://gyazo.com/d6061a5c68b71a62db9a8f2caeeb7fc7
final: https://gyazo.com/9debc02e39bc81f21f327455c16e83b7


SPOILERS: https://gyazo.com/207234f9d3533f970499e2282a6f4a98


RIP trolling.

 

This is my new "DisplaySafe" panel: Chi Cei CMN175F

I can't find any info on this as it seems to be virtually non-existent on the internet although I personally like this panel and will be keeping it. It is definitely brighter than my old AUO 144Hz Gsync.

 

Is that the non G-sync option?

 

no competition at all. Area-51m crushed MSI GT76 Titan in every gaming benchmarks & tests even with a weaker CPU

 

You can transfer the warranty anywhere in the world. What's the big deal? Plus, hardware failure is quite normal in mass produced machines as long as it's not a universal flaw that affects everybody.

 

That’s the 144hz g sync one.

 

No. Gsync.

But can't downgrade to BIOS 1.3.2 as it kills the Gsync. Works perfectly 1.5.0 and up.

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And you’re 100% sure they used exactly same drivers and same settings in Nvidia control panel? And from what I know the MSI joke is barely ready for sale. See... Firmware updates may come out fixing things that don’t work correct. Pretty normal from what I know.

You remembered that Azor had to tell his engineers fix the vBios right after seeing Asus delivered directly from the factory?

 

Thanks! What is the difference between the 200W and 180W VBIOS's?

 

From my testing of both firmware, I found out that the 180W VBIOS reaches the power limit quite early especially if you undervolt the GPU but tends to run a lot cooler in-game. 200W has a much better headroom in terms of power limit throttling but is a few degrees warmer. Both will give you similar performance though, 200W is much easier to undervolt.

I'm using the 1.5.0 BIOS and 200W as my daily driver.

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