*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

But why is that bad? I thought that this is necessary to make the fans ramp up when a certain heat temp is reached

 

And why is this needed if you make a proper fan control in firmware? And you like that the notebook manufacturers can put in a hell lot temp skin sensors all over on the MB so they can add in more throttle mecanisms? Telemetry is disgusting in any form or shape!



The tech was meant for Jokebooks with not proper cooling...
Understanding Intel's Dynamic Power and Thermal Framework 8.1: Smarter Throttling anandtech.com


"Ultimately, coming from IDF 2015 it isn’t clear at this time when we can expect this to show up in 2-in-1s, tablets, and other devices. But given that DPTF is a software suite it’s well within possibility that devices already out there with DPTF could receive an update that implements these improved throttling mechanisms"


This package contains the Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework driver. The package is supported on Dell Alienware, Inspiron, Vostro, XPS, Precision, and Latitude systems that run Windows 10 (64-bit) operating system. Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework is a power and thermal management solution that is used to resolve (fan noise), overheating, and performance-related issues of the system.

"This all began when the motherboard initially failed and they replaced the motherboard which began overheating. They have since replaced the motherboard again, the cooling unit, and now they are replacing the motherboard again. Does Dell just refuse to use decent thermal paste? Or is this just a bad design?"

 

I have acquired a M17xR2, finally. Yes you read that correctly. M17x not m17.

Funny I can run 1333Mhz natively as intended and with an unlocked BIOS overclock the i5 LOL

It might we don't know 100% unless someone tries

I'm thinking we would need a different heatsink. But no one has official pics of the card itself yet.

Not to mention going from 2080 to 2080 Super isn't the smartest and cost effective upgrade.

 

Hey guys
I have a good discount on a i7-9700kf
Do you think it would work with the area 51 ?
I don't see why it wouldn't see the i7-9700k works .
Do you think they would be a big improvement in temps compared to the i9 9900k ?

 

Hyper-threading makes CPU's run hotter, no question. that being said, you might consider literally just turning off the HT on the 9900K and hit a happy medium (Note that I don't know the difference with HT off on a 9900K vs 9700K).

http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2019/02/comparing-i9-9900k-i7-9700k-8700k-gamers-gaming/#:~:text=It has little impact on,hotter than the i7-9700k.

 

Thanks for the information!
Do you know what's the easiest to disable the HT?

 

Basically, its boot up and go into BIOS and you should have an option to turn it off (I have a 9700K myself):

This might help: https://www.techjunkie.com/disable-...en you get to the,may differ on your computer.

 

Looks like the Area 51M R2 went up no real options outside of disk and memory, and no Gsync....

 

More coming by the end of the month. It's pretty normal for the new models to launch with next to no options, it's been happening for years.

 

I might just get the lowest config if they ever drop the starting price

 

Alienware Area-51m Drivers 10-Jun-2020

Spoiler: Changelog

Alienware OC Controls updated to v1.2.70.1237

Alienware Command Center updated to v5.2.89.0

Intel Chipset Drivers updated to v10.1.18267.8194

Intel Serial IO Driver updated to v30.100.1947.3

Intel Dynamic Tuning Driver updated to v8.7.10200.12510

Intel Management Engine Driver updated to v2007.14.0.1488

Intel Thunderbolt Controller Driver updated to v1.41.823.0

Intel Integrated Solution Driver updated to v3.10.100.4122

Intel HID Event Filter Driver updated to v2.2.1.379

Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver updated to v17.8.0.1065

Kionix Free Fall Sensor Driver Updated to v1.1.7.1

Touchpad Driver updated to v19.5.17.16

Intel UHD Graphics 630 Driver updated to v26.20.100.8141

nVIDIA GeForce RTX Driver updated to v443.17

Guide: How to unlock the GPU Thermal Limit Slider in Alienware Command Center

After you download the ZIP file and before you unzip it, make sure it is not blocked by right clicking on it, go to Properties, then see at the bottom if it says "this file came from another computer and might be blocked..." click the UNBLOCK button then hit APPLY followed by OK! To prevent Windows from blocking downloaded files automatically, make sure you read this guide:

"Are you sure you want to run this file?" [Yes or No]

The drivers are organized in numbered folders with the correct installation order.

Please restart after every driver install even if you were not prompted because some drivers will fail to install if there are any other pending operations (ie. had the Intel HID Event Filter Driver fail to install once because I did not reboot, the driver package was installed but the actual device in Device Manager was not updated)

@MogRules @ssj92 @Fire Tiger

 

Thanks brother, all updated. Appreciate you sharing these updates with us.

 

You're most welcome. All drivers have been stolen from the Area-51m R2 minus the ones which are not applicable. I have tested them to ensure compatibility. The only driver that is still used from the Area-51m is the Tobii Driver as the newer isn't compatible.

 

Brilliant idea that, wonder if we'll stop seeing updates now that they have a new baby to cuddle.

I never install the Tobbi drivers now, I never used it so thought best leave them out.

 

oh and on a side note, these updated drivers ensure compatibility with the latest Windows 10 update 20H1

 

I got my notebook fixed today. Unliked diagosed before, it was motherboard that got faulty due to bios downgrade. Thanks for all the support guys

P. S I'm currenyly on bios 1.7.3 any ways or steps to increase the performance without me killing my laptop again would be much appreciated

 

Is there an option in bios where you can disable HT ? I mean Dell have locked out almost everything in advanced menu.

 

Good question - they might have, I can't tell.

 

On the 9900K there is an option to set HYPERTHREAD CONTOL to ENABLED or DISABLED. Secont tab in the bios.

Also just tested CB15 bench with HT off and results are terrible. 300 and 400 points less. I can run 5.0Ghz but score are 1700. With HT on at 4.9Ghz i can score 2100. Also temps are not that much better with HT off after my first results. I will keep it enabled for now.

 

I don't think it's there for 9700K.

 

@Fire Tiger With the new drivers, I got 100 more extra CINEBENCH points:

 

Has Dell given you guys a technical explanation for why the card layout changed between vanilla RTX and the Super GPUs?

Seems super lame they advertise upgradability and then don't even give you the option within the same generation of Nvidia GPUs.

Seems worse than what MSI did when they said our 900M machines would take Pascal. Nine levels of Hell were raised and we ended up with the trade in program.

 

I'll give R20 a run out tomorrow bro. When you say new drivers do you mean nVidia or your full suite from 10th?

 

The full driver suite. I don't know what is responsible for this boot but hey all good, more compatibility and performance. I'm on BIOS 1.5.0 with the 180W VBIOS

 

Just to be sure...you reinstall all the drivers you dowloaded in the order you have it set and it gives you better results?
I usually save the full driver you upload in case i need to réinstalled windows. I never tought i should update all of the drivers.

Thank you for this updload, it is very nice to have a backup of all the drivers in the right order of installition.

 

oh no I format a lot. OCD bro. So when I say I got performance, it is because of the entire driver suite. I can't tell what exactly caused this but I'm happy. Heck I took the benchmark while NOD32 Antivirus was on not disabled. That's how light that Antivirus is.

 

Hey spartan
So just taking all the new drivers from the new area R2 and installing them on the R1 allowed your computer to run better ?

 

yes, slightly, I tested them all first to ensure which ones work for us. I previously stated that the new Tobii Driver from the R2 doesn't work on our R1 but I tried again today and it does work so I will include that in the next update as well.

Tobii Eye Tracking Core Driver v4.50.0.4106

Don't forget to read this thread to ensure your downloaded files are NOT blocked:
"Are you sure you want to run this file?" [Yes or No]

 

So you will post all the drivers or we can also just download them all from dell website ?

 

It doesn't seem super-lame, it is super-lame. First thing I did was ask the question on the new R2 was how long would upgrade parts be available considering none were now available already for the R1; they didn't approve the question imagine that.

 

You can surely download them from Dell's website. That's where I got em from just put em in numbered folders so people know the proper installation order.

PS: The Intel HD Graphics driver from other laptops like the M15/M17 R3 doesn't install on the Area-51m R1 but luckily the one from the R2 installs just fine. A much needed update for the new Windows build as the one we have for the R1 is more than a year old.

 

Wow!! That’s some bull !!! WTF


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I got the below, however, I don't have much to compare it with as I'm now on x49 all cores with -117mV via ThrottleStop. 1 core hit 91c right at the end of the test. Where previously I was testing using x50 all cores with -90mV.

 

Excellent score. What thermal paste? Were your fans on max blast?

 

Alienware Area-51m Drivers 11-Jun-2020

Spoiler: Changelog

Alienware OC Controls updated to v1.2.70.1237

Alienware Command Center updated to v5.2.89.0

Intel Chipset Drivers updated to v10.1.18267.8194

Intel Serial IO Driver updated to v30.100.1947.3

Intel Dynamic Tuning Driver updated to v8.7.10200.12510

Intel Management Engine Driver updated to v2007.14.0.1488

Intel Thunderbolt Controller Driver updated to v1.41.823.0

Intel Integrated Solution Driver updated to v3.10.100.4122

Intel HID Event Filter Driver updated to v2.2.1.379

Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver updated to v17.8.0.1065

Kionix Free Fall Sensor Driver Updated to v1.1.7.1

Touchpad Driver updated to v19.5.17.16

Tobii Eye Tracking Driver updated to v4.50.0.4106

Intel UHD Graphics 630 Driver updated to v26.20.100.8141

nVIDIA GeForce RTX Driver updated to v443.17

Guide: How to unlock the GPU Thermal Limit Slider in Alienware Command Center

After you download the ZIP file and before you unzip it, make sure it is not blocked by right clicking on it, go to Properties, then see at the bottom if it says "this file came from another computer and might be blocked..." click the UNBLOCK button then hit APPLY followed by OK! To prevent Windows from blocking downloaded files automatically, make sure you read this guide:

"Are you sure you want to run this file?" [Yes or No]

The drivers are organized in numbered folders with the correct installation order.

When Install the LAN Driver, Choose CUSTOM, then uncheck the box which says Killer Software. You can also expand the Drivers and uncheck Ethernet Drivers, E3100. You only need the E3000 Drivers. Keep the DELL Checkbox.

The WLAN Driver must be installed from Device Manager by right clicking on the WLAN Card, choose Update Driver, then browse to the folder where the drivers are located.

Please restart after every driver install even if you were not prompted because some drivers will fail to install if there are any other pending operations (ie. had the Intel HID Event Filter Driver fail to install once because I did not reboot, the driver package was installed but the actual device in Device Manager was not updated)

 

Phobya Nanogrease on both CPU and GPU, yeah fans on full speed.

 

I wanted to try another run using my x50 -90mV profile and achieved the below. However, all cores hit above 90c about midway through the test.

It should be a good reference point for the 2004 upgrade if it ever reaches my laptop. I still have the 'your device isn't quite ready' message. Not that I'm eager to update.

 

Not very far from 9900k, mine 4700 Score full fan speed.

 

Ive finally got a dell technician coming to replace the screen tomorrow as when I received the laptop there was a stuck/ dead pixel. I really like the R1 despite its flaws - which if im honest have not really experienced. (except the annoying GPU temp slider being stuck - thanks to @Spartan for advising the fix)

Any way I was wondering what kind of experience to expect from a Dell technician and if I need to watch out for anything - i.e damage that they may cause - checks to make while they are still here etc?

Many Thanks

 

Same for me 4700 max at x46 no thermal throttling but it is very close at 94C. At 47x i score 4830 but it thermal throttles . I am not impressed since i have LM on it. I think my chip is average.

 

Advice: stay next to him and watch. The risk of damaging is very high on a panel switch. Don't worry if he brakes anything, Dell has a good warranty, they will repair if anything happens. Hopefully all goes well.

 

I have nothing but praises to Dell staff and certified technicians, you have to remember dell run computer corporate business and they sell millions of units world wide.

 

Is there anything in particular to look for damage wise? I will have to work through the day ( from home so not too bad) so may not be able to be with him the entire time. Therefore id like to check while he is still here if possible so that the technician/dell can be accountable should damage occur. I'm sure things will go ok - but I've had some poor experiences with people in past damaging things and not telling me about it and only find out long after the fact.

 

If possible watch them do the teardown. I had my panel replaced due to a dead pixel and when it came to removing the IO shield at the back he was trying to prise it off without having unscrewed the 2 back screws. I reminded him they were there.

My tech was pretty heavy handed but got the job done and when he was tidying up he asked me to re-run the EPSA test and do a bit of a self check to make sure all seemed well which it did.

 

Thanks Fire that's good to know. How long did the panel swap take? I think ill book myself a couple of hours off then and hover around them for a bit!

Hopefully then tomorrow will be the end of "Pete the Pixel"

 

Interestingly enough the newer thunderbolt driver included in this fixed my thunderbolt connection issues with the 2004 update from Windows and the port is again picking up my Note 9 properly.

 

I'm sure it was just over an hour in total, he stripped it down quite quick and had the panel off in about 30-40 mins. Then about the same throwing it all back together.

 

I told you earlier you remember That old Thunderbolt Driver for the Area-51m also has a security vulnerability so the driver update was much needed. Thanks for reporting your success story.

 

While this may be true, the panel swap is pretty simple if they are sending the whole panel/lid, which i have to assume they are. It's the bottom panel, the back exhaust shroud and then 8 screws, 6 of which are on the hinge itself and the whole thing just lifts off. I would say it's brain dead simple, but I have seen some of the techs pry panel open with screwdrivers because they are impatient so....

 

I just had my panel switched from a dell tech. If your tech cant do it then computer fixing may not be a good trade for them.. it is the most easy thing to do..
They replaced the whole lid on mine.
Make sure they put the right panel back in. I sent my system out for repair, and it came back with the wrong panel. It came back with the chi mei D model of the display and not the F .. The D does not have g-sync.. You can check what model they put In with a quick hwinfo64 check. Just an FYI