*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Anyone got a skin on their A51M? I have the lunar white and the damn this is a stain magnet. Im wondering if putting a skin on will increase the temps of the laptop (yes I know it sounds stupid) but I'm curious

 

Dell DGFF RTX cards ain't for ordinary sale (retail or upgrade). So the price aspect ain't something the people should bother with.

As I said in post above. All remaining 2080 graphics will be used for repairs/or used in replacement machines. Also one of the reason Dell only offered the 2080 upgrade package a very short time on their webpage. As you know... Umar Khan said they couldn't offer it now due the ongoing Corona crisis 2 or 3 months ago. But we all know the real reason for remove it from their sales webpage.

The replacement Area51m that is being offered...


Now in my experience (so far) I have effectively gone through:

3x Motherboard replacements

5x Audio board replacements

3x Graphics Cards

2x Heatsinks and Fans

3x Speakers

I have yet to have a fully functional unit since the day I became an owner of this system. I love the look and feel and I love the promise of it's potential but I am a bit disheartened that Dell were not able to find an R2 model the replace my system with.

The other post...

 

I would file a BBB complaint on them. That's just insane. Makes me feel happy atleast I got geek squad warranty on mine

 

Have you guys ever encountered this problem ?
No matter what I do it doesn't solve it
I have reinstalled all the softwares three times , reflashed the bios 1.5 .
Nothing works ..
@spartan7_7 have you got any idea ?
I swear this software is evil

 

Just as an alternative have you tried Intel XTU or ThrottleStop to see if the OC/UV ability is there?

 

Yes everything works fine I can still overclock through the command center but if just annoys me that it is not working properly

 

Does anyone can confirm or deny if the 2070 VBIOS is 150W, and can anyone post a dump of a 2070 VBIOS?

 

Use the Search function for 'skin' or posts from @S.K or @Virale within this thread. I know S.K mentioned some skinning on the case using vinyl contact paper for drawers and posted some results. Virale called the skinjob (not to be confused with a Terminator) Stormtrooper or something. There may be some other posts as well.

You could follow up with questions to them regarding heat / thermal issues. But I don't recall anyone posting anything regarding your question since the plastic/metal of the casing is not really designed to be a thermal exhaust point.

 

mine has been doing the same thing for a few months. the GHZ gauge and temp on that page doesn't show, the usage percentage below it still shows though. if i go to the thermals tab it still shows the cpu fan temp. if i go to the thermals tab it still shows the cpu fan temp. so i know it's reading it. like with you a reinstall didn't do anything. so i have just ignored it since overclocking seems to be still working fine and the performance has still been great.

the other issue i have with AWCC is two of my keys are magenta instead of red until AWCC opens on start up. then they revert back to my all red theme. full uninstall and re-install doesn't fix that either.

those are the only 2 issues i have ever had with mine.

 

Did you try doing a clean install using this guide?

Guide: How to unlock the GPU Thermal Limit Slider in Alienware Command Center

It's mentioned there how to remove all the Alienware Command Center directories and registry keys manually.

Also make sure when you download the Command Center installer, that it's not blocked since it was downloaded from the internet.
Make sure to right click on the file you just downloaded, go to Properties, then hit Unblock from the bottom right as it may be blocked since it was downloaded from the internet, if you don't do this before you run the file, then it may not install correctly.

To prevent this automatic blocking of files in the future so you don't have to go unblocking every file you download to ensure it runs properly, follow the guide in this thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/are-you-sure-you-want-to-run-this-file-yes-or-no.825668/

 

2070's Vbios has a ridiculous 115W and there is only one.

 

yes. a few times, it didn't make a change to my 2 issues, but my GPU slider is unlocked though. i think a clean windows install might be the only option to fix it but i don't feel like doing that to fix those 2 issues at this time. it doesn't bother me that much.

 

Hi Guys,
I have a small issue with Area51m R1. I bought it with i7 9700 but I replaced it with an i7 8700k. I couldn't adjust the multiplier in AWCC. After a clean win reinstall, the issue is the same. Any idea? From Dell side the technician couldn't help me. In Throttlestop, I can adjust these things with the voltage but in AWCC the Advanced View tab is missing. Any idea what can I do?

 

did you try resetting BIOS to defaults?

 

Yes, of course. I tried all bios setting regardnig to CPU overclock and nothing changed.

 

Sure its not higher? Mine just hit 119.... I could swear it was like 120...

Edit: hit 121, pretty sure 125 is the limit... latest BIOS and VBIOS...

 

8700K is not officially supported in Area-51M. In same way as the 9900KS, it works in the laptop but with some flaws as you have seen. If I remember correct... Dell only supported the locked down 8700 from 8th gen chips to make it more affordable as option.

Edit. You could of course try flash back to older bios versions and try older AWCC versions. But I doubt it will work.

Forgot your friend with similar problem?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-2146#post-11013969

 

I didn't know this, only mentioned this by Dell and this is the info what I got from the Dell technician: "There is a possibility, that Command centre is reading information from Service Tag which is in original configuration with non overclockable CPU, that might be possible." And later I got this, after he contacted his technical advisor: "I have received response - statement is, that AW Command centre software functionality can be guaranteed only if original CPU for configuration is installed."
I hope that somebody found a solution for this issue, this is why I ask here now. If not this is not a tragedy because now I don't play games what they need the full power of my CPU (WoW, Division 2, Control).

And no, that machine is not mine, I have an RTX2070 gpu in my machine.

Mod: I don't think that I try to refresh my bios, now I am using 1.8.1, this is OK for me except the OC settings in AWCC. If I want OC and there is no solution for this, I will use TS.

 

Spartan's guide on the thermal limit slider is spot on. Got my slider fixed. Another question for the hive mind - Thinking about rolling the 330W and a 240W power supply adapter with my A51M. 9700/2080. Any cons to sending 550W into the system?

 

Nope, I've been running my system like that for about 3 months now. In fact, it's better because the 180W adapter heats up quickly while the 240W can handle the power with ease and without overheating.

 

Hey guys
So I solved the issues with the command center not working by doing a clean installation of windows .
I didn't have the partition from dell anymore so I just downloaded all the drivers from dell website.
Now I'm having another issue the laptop takes forever to boot at least a minute while before it was 15 secs
I have a 970 pro
Does anyone have a back up from dell so I can just do a factory install ?
Thanks in advance

 

i've been running 2 330W adapters since almost day 1 because i had another 330w and why not. no issues.

 

Try unplugging and reattaching the internal battery cable

 

Mine does that also so I use Xtu to undervolt. With throttlestop in AWCC CPU speed does not display for some reason. Buggy software and App!

 

Hi all - I am in Australia and looking to purchase the R2 - there are limited R2 options for sale at the moment. The question I have is whether - as a newbie and someone who's not going to overclock, etc - does it matter whether I have the i7 10700 with 32GB of 2933MHz RAM (currently available) or i7 10700K and 3200MHz RAM (currently not available). Will the additional 'K' and RAM speed be noticeable to me when playing games?

 

I need to do this, I hate how hot the 180W gets....

 

For gaming, it wont matter 99% of the time you will be just fine.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

 

Nope, See = Benchmarks of different RAM speeds

 

Depends on your use case. If you are primarily a gamer, it won't matter that much or a number of reasons:
* Dell supplies CL21-22 memory, so 2933 vs 3200 is a question of whether you like basic turds or wrapped turds
* Games tend to be a bit less sensitive to memory speed, because of the huge reliance on the GPU

If you actually want the best memory, namely a whopping 20% faster than what Dell supplies, order 8GB of Dell crap and use HyperX impact 2933 CL17 memory.

Finally bear in mind Dell cut 2 SODiMM slots in the R2.

Further info in the R2 thread:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-alienware-area-51m-r2-owners-lounge.832848/page-89

This benchmark does not include Dell's CL 21 value RAM. They tested differences between great memory 51M users can only dream of if they rely on Dell, and amazing super-duper memory, and sure enough they hit bottlenecks elsewhere, there is only like 10% difference between "worst" (51M user's wet dream) and best.

 

I know, I was just trying to show that there is no noticeable benefit to gaming or even regular apps from increased RAM speed

 

Well, first of all, what does "noticeable" or "regular apps" even mean? By that logic I could argue there is no noticeable benefit in regular apps between my 8750 m15 and 51M , or no "noticeable" benefit of upgrading from 2080 to 2080 S in games. I would suggest it is better to just discuss specific benchmark results, people can then decide if 5,10, or 20% extra performance in particular scenarios is worth it or not. The HyperX Impact memory upgrade is a no-brainer though, because you get a whopping 20% faster, top quality memory, at a LOWER price.

 

I'm about to receive my R2 unit
Anyone looking for a R1 unit ?

 

Hello guys! Today I made a repaste with phobya nanogrease and a repad with gelid extreme, the GPU is cooler by a few degrees but the CPU always touches 100 ° C with R15 cinebench, which before did not happen with pasta and pad as standard at max 90 ° C, I followed SK's guide to pad thicknesses. Very sad...

 

Don't Phobya Nanogrease instructions specify the spread method?

 

The nanogrease is one of the thickest thermal paste out there
Don't go with the cross method
Only way to be sure is to spread in a thin layer

 

The X method is fine, too much thermal paste isn't really an issue. Make sure the screws are tightened well. If the pads are too tall then you'll have too much of a gap, what does it look like when you take the heatsink off?

 

Yes the first attempt was with the spatula, result 100 ° C, then I tried the grain, result 100 ° C, lastly I tried X, result 100 ° C. Either I am wrong or the standard pasta had superior performance

Disassembling the heatsink the pads do not seem to have excessive fingerprints

 

And the spread of the paste looked good? No high/low areas?

 

Yes the diffusion is good both with the rice grain and with the X method

 

Sorry to ask, did you remember to reconnect the fan I guess the BIOS would have objected if you didn't.

 

Yes I happened to forget to connect the fans and the pc does not start without. I also put a 1.5mm fujipoly pad on the rear heatsink of the dgff, I tried to do my best but apparenty the Chinese in the factory was better than me

 

Dunno then. Screw ordering maybe? Did all the screws go all the way in, did it feel like there is good heatsink pressure? Perhaps copper shims would help?

 

And you're sure you never reached that temp stock? Did you make logs? Same room temp while testing? Same CPU speeds?

 

Yes I have done hundreds of benchmarks previously always monitoring the temperatures, never gone over ~ 90 °C on Cinebench R15 @ 5GHz, max fan, room temperature 27 °C. So far the only good thing is that I found out I have the dgff with "good" mosfets NCP 303150

 

The X Cross method does not work for PHOBYA NanoGrease. It's too thick. You need to spread it yourself to cover the entire CPU. for GELID Extreme GC Thermal Compound the X Cross method is best.

 

As everyone knows, the temperatures are better if you raise the A51m a bit. I read somewhere that the R2 has higher feets. Can anybody confirm this? If so it would be interesting to upgrade to the R2-feets.

 

Hi Spartan! Would you recommend using gelid paste instead of phobya?

 

They are almost the same with GC Extreme getting around 1C cooler temps. I am using GC Extreme for both the CPU and GPU on my R1 and I've ordered the R2 as well with GC Extreme for both CPU/GPU

 

I would have cut my losses and never looked back. At some point you just have to admit defeat.

 

Hi, did you go from a i9-9900K PO to a i9-9900K RO? Or from a i7-9700K PO to I9-9900K RO? And why??