*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

I stand Corrected! lol!!

 

it's called Hibernation not Hydration

 

To be fair, an honest mistake - hydration is key!

 

Windows update is the key D: on a serious note make sure thermal paste is well hydrated winter is coming

 

If Dell doesn't make a watercooler for the Area 51m, aliexpress solves the problem ...





https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/4001...earchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

Had the same kit for my P870 from that seller... the kit was actually VERY good - i did only have the WC heatsink tho, the rest was custom EK .

 

I like custom builds, before a bought my first laptop gamer, because a need mobility, i use to have a full watercooler in my desktop... In my area 51m i already repast, repad and did a good undervoltage (cpu and gpu).... But i dont have corage to install this, because it would lose mobility... and the kit is expensive ...

 

Oh yeah that's my post from the Dell Community Forum/Cares (area 51m 2080 gpu). There's a follow up post I made about buying the 2070 Upgrade Kit, that I was guaranteed by the Sales Rep would have the GPU, Thermal Shield/Radiator, and power adapter. That didn't happen. I received a GPU, thermal paste, and some screws (which I didn't need). I returned that too.

 

My machine is dead. I was just browsing on battery and it suddenly turned itself off. I tried turning it on back but no luck. It's just 1 n half years old and I barely used it.
I'm lucky that ive purchase extended warranty, it's been a month since I raised a service request and dell had performed 3 services till now, 1st they changed motherboard it didn't work then in the second service they changed both motherboard and dc cables, it didn't work and the third service was performed today; they replaced motherboard, dc cables and the power button but it still didn't turned on. So they just forwarded the case to their superior department. Ive asked them a replacement. It's just freaking annoying.

Specs: I7 9700K, RTX 2070.

 

Don't worry. It happened to me many times. You will get a new machine with better specs.
One thing Dell is good is their warranty.
Edit: Advise: If they refuse the exchange: Ask (politely always) for your case to be escalated. You should have qualified after the second MB replacement for a new system.

 

But what might be the reason behind this sudden death?? I'm thinking to deny any further repair on my machine. I'll strongly stick with replacement.

 

Hey guys,

Did any of you succeeded in installing Windows 10 2004 on your machine?
I tried again yesterday and it was a complete mess.
First, there was no way I could install my Nvidia drivers (even after proper DDU) ==> BSOD. My Intel XTU could not work anymore. Installing about any driver through Driver Booster (something I usually never do) result in BSOD again...
I kept getting IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL on every move I tried.
I installed the October patch (10-2020) but it was the same story.
Thankfully I backed my machine up with Macrium before this very dangerous move of updating Windows.

In the end, I'm "stuck" on Windows 10 1909.
I guess that's not much of a problem to me, but I'm wondering if you guys also encountered some issues while updating your machine.

Have a nice day!

 

How are you installing 2004 edition?? With a flashable pendrive??

 

With Windows Updata naturally

 

1) Update all your drivers to the latest ones in this ZIP (some of them may not be applicable to your system such as the card reader drivers but all the chipset drivers/touchpad/LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth/Intel VGA,/nVIDIA Graphics Driver/AWCC/OC Controls work just fine on the R1:

Alienware Area-51m R2 Drivers 01-Nov-20

Make sure to right click on the file(s) you just downloaded, go to Properties, then hit Unblock from the bottom right as it may be blocked since it was downloaded from the internet, if you don't do this before you run the file or extract it, then it may not install correctly.

To prevent this automatic blocking of files in the future so you don't have to go unblocking every file you download to ensure it runs properly, follow the guide in this thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/are-you-sure-you-want-to-run-this-file-yes-or-no.825668/

2) Create a Windows 10 USB Flash Disk using the latest Media Creation Tool

3) Run Setup.exe from the USB stick to perform an in-place upgrade

 

The beauty of Microsoft... For each new upgrade it will just be worse. I can't understand why people absolutely need to upgrade before they need or have to. The new ain't better. Not at all. You only get more bugs.

Windows 10 20H2 Inplace Upgrade Fix [Download] as long as an Inplace does not work
Microsoft released the Windows 10 20H2 to everyone a few days ago. This version still has one "flaw". Because an in- place upgrade repair of the Windows 10 20H2 is currently not possible.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-20h2.830339/page-41#post-11054758

Yeah, the truth.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-20h2.830339/page-42#post-11055864

 

Be almost better to have one OS frozen for the life of the laptop. That OS would have been quality tested and verified as working prior to the customer buying. Once bought, no further changes to the OS could be made by any entity. MS updates and turdbooks. A match made in Redmond-Heaven (consumer hell).

 

Yep, way back when it was first launched. Used the upgrade tool and it went through no issues. It did kill my USB-C function with my phone, it just wouldn't connect anymore, so I rolled back to 1909 and then went back to 2004 again after that shortly after.

 

Hi !

Thank you, I'll try that later.
However, you sent the R2 drivers, I own the R1, does it make any difference ?


Envoyé de mon SM-G965U1 en utilisant Tapatalk

 

did you even read my post?

 

Haha I read the entire post except from this part + the Unlock part I'm already aware of :')

I'm sorry lol

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Has anyone here with an i9-9900k ever tried swapping it for a 9700k to get better temperatures? I attempted this, disassembly was pretty easy and straight forward but the system will no longer post. The i9 and i7 share the same chipset so I can't understand what's wrong here. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 

I'm pretty sure the i7-9900K is a common CPU to use. So I don't think that's out of the ordinary.

I don't have any first hand knowledge with exactly the Area 51m R1, but have you tried removing removing all power sources (AC AND laptop battery), and then remove the mobo's system/BIOS button battery for an extended period of time (I've seen where ppl wait 20-30 minutes, but I don't know why that'd be required). Then hold the power button down for 10-15 seconds while without power to discharge everything.

Then put everything back together and see if it POSTs after that? From experience, I've seen weird things with UEFI/BIOS when swapping CPUs, and a clean UEFI/BIOS reset may help.

 

Thanks for the suggestion! I'm giving this a shot now. I just got off the phone with tech support, no help at all. I paid like $500 extra for on-site tech support and every level of warranty they've got. Their tech support guy said "maybe you bent the pins on the i7 when you swapped" and I just slapped my forehead...intel chips don't have pins on them. Then he went on to say that if I had bought the i7 from Dell they would help me, because maybe Dell's i7's have a different wattage or configuration...slapped my forehead again...right, Dell is manufacturing Intel chips now. So oh well, I may have to just live with the abysmal thermals of the 9900k and swap them back.

 

Not sure if you got anywhere. Hopefully this worked out for you.

I'm with you on the i7-9700K, that is the same CPU regardless of where you got it. There are no special Dell CPUs. Just to verify, it is the i7-9700K, not some other CPU like the "KS" or some other marking? Although I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as an i7-9700KS. There's also a slight chance the CPU itself is actually bad. Do you have another LGA 1151 machine (or a friend or local computer shop) in which you could test the CPU?

Now, in regards to the pins, the tech support guy was probably referring to the pins on the motherboard that make contact with the CPU. I've seen ppl drop the CPU and bend those pins on the motherboard, and they don't make contact afterward. Usually you can look at the motherboard socket from a variety of different angles and see a bent pin or dark spot where the pins are not aligned correctly. Otherwise a Jeweler's loop or magnifying glass can help spot these things too.

However, if you put the i9-990K back in and it works correctly (maybe after some slight benching or load tests), then you know the pins are probably not the problem.

If you *do* go back to the i9-990K, for temp reasons have you thought about under-volting the CPU using @unclewebb's Throttle Stop or some of the Dell utilities to lower voltage, and thus reduce heat?

 

Have you tried dissabling hyperthreading on your 9900k to basically give you a 9700K with higher cache and stock boost speeds?

 

Should work automatically - I mean I have a 9700K..... that's really weird if it doesn't. I seem to recall when I added a SSD to my AW Aurora I had issues, then after two fruitless calls to Tech Support, I finally found that Secure Boot was the issue (its obvious they were told NOT to tell me since they wanted to sell Dell's own equipment). Have you tried disabling Secure Boot in the BIOS just in case? My guess would be Windows 10 Secure Boot is seeing the value for the CPU and its running afoul of some value recorded in relation to the driver for the CPU. FWIW it runs significantly cooler, and if you avoid anything but a slight overclock its even better.

 

It looks like Dell now closing the door.

Dell Alienware Area-51m R1 GeForce RTX 2080 upgrade kit

 

So when when are we thinking the 3000 series will be available for notebooks and the 51m? I’m guessing spring 2021 earliest if we go off the yearly cycle.

 

I expect Nvidia will need remaining Ampere chips for desktops to fight AMD and Big Navi before and in the Christmas holidays AMD is no threat in the notebook game. Why push out 3000 series chips for gaming books before they need to? People buy whatever is available today. Old EOL chips have still a value, LOOL

 

All this BS with Dellienware over the Area 51M-R1 has left a bad taste in my mouth, I am kind of glad that I changed jobs and don't travel now which means I can depend more on my desktop. Probably going Lenovo next time if I ever get a new gaming laptop after the A51M-R1 chokes.

 

I don't believe I've seen official, concrete information regarding anything, but some ppl have said they believe it will be sometime middle of Dec.

I and others are a little more conservative thinking somewhere from late Jan (maybe announced at CES??) to end of Feb or early March for general availability.

You can pick some of that conversation here - http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...2-owners-lounge.832848/page-156#post-11043337

 

Thing is, your RTX 2070 at 1080p will remain relevant for a long time if you take care of your laptop.

 

Assasins creed valhalla want to have a chat with you.

 

According to the official specs, you should be able to run at 1080/60 fps High preset with a GTX 1080. The GTX 1080 has a Fire strike graphics score of 20-22k


while the RTX 2070 around 21-23K:

https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=fs P&cpuId=&gpuId=1243&gpuCount=0&deviceType=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

If it is designed like AC: Odyssey, just lower the clouds from very high to medium and you'll get a 10-15 fps boost

I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one that wants a chat with Ubisoft concerning their PC game engines.

 

The official specs yes, but a quick look at the forums today has people angry that it runs like ****, hell even a 3090 can't get 4k/60fps.
Looking at some reviews even the 2080 has problems getting 60 fps on high with 1440p.

This thing is made for consoles that's obvious but cyberpunk 2077 will be the real test.

I do think it will last some while but yet here i am with the 2080 already being disappointed that 1440p/60 is a hard struggle at ultra.
And to top that off with a AGA that does not support 3xxx yet. I would hope that alienware releases a new aga but i'm afraid that will never happen

 

Same issues as Ubisoft's other big title, Watch Dogs: Legions. A patch is coming to make the game run better.

Ubisoft is a publicly-traded company and works on deadlines. They released games and then release patches to fix their mistakes.

Cyberpunk 2077 has been designed, with Nvidia, as a showcase of ray-tracing capabilities and DLSS 2.0 using Nvidia's own Gameworks APIs. It bound to be well optimized for Nvidia cards.

Godfall is the same but for AMD 6000 series; hence the 12GB VRAM recommended specs.

You are raising a good point; powerful hardware can't save us from badly optimized games.

 

This is a problem no question- if they don't take the opportunity to release a new AGA with the "Legend" theme, I will be shocked to force sales using the 3xxx-series as the excuse.

 

So I changed the Bios settings for Battery Recharge 80%.....It's been attached to powerbricks (power off/on) for two weeks and down to 93% Battery.
That normal?
Never off powerbricks.
Always Shift off.

 

Oh I take care of my stuff. One of the appeals of the A51M was simply the fact you could get into it and back out again without destroying it to repaste, etc. I mean I am mostly happy with mine, still peeved it said 2666 memory on the box and runs at 2400, but beyond that except for lack of GPU upgrades I am good with it. Its just Dell's .... attitude that I dislike, I mean its not an engineering problem its an old market exploitation philosophy that is not serving the consumer nor is it really in the end good business.... it's just _easier_.

 

Question for the group:

Is the area 51 r1 laptop with the 2070 video card and 9700 processor enough to play movies in 4k?

 

More than enough

I use SVP (Smooth Video Project), makes videos play at your screen's refresh rate, buttery smooth!

 

Does this work when outputting the video to to a 4k screen?

 

yes, there is a Trial too. Test it first before buying a license.

 

Trivial for it quite frankly. A 1060 with a weaker processor would do it easily.

 

Second Motherboard into hardware heaven within two years. Both last about 8 months.



Area-51m, black screen

 

About the right time to recycle a BGA laptop ~ every year or so...


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Not sure if this is allowed, but if not please remove it. I'm selling my 51m R1 over in the classifieds if anyone is looking for one. http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/fs-alienware-51m-r1.834595/

 

Dell put the final nail in the AGA coffin

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ll-13-15-and-17.770323/page-473#post-11059045

 

Good thing i have 4 years of warranty, maybe if my motherboard holds up long enough they can give me a new model so i can sell it instantly. The death of AGA will be the death of alienware for me.