*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Yes I do. Since it runs at 2400, the timings drop to C14 instead of C16.

 

They actually did state 2666 when the 51m was first shown and announced. As well as one more heat pipe but that ended up being a “engineering sample”.

 

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"By the point maybe the 2070 is feasible" If I had it to do over again, I would have probably gone w/ the 2070 if only for the upgraded cooling system. They must have been shipping the 2060s to youtube reviewers with the functional side vents because they were showing them as working. I honestly though I was getting the same but sadly no. Now worries, just more to upgrade if I choose another GPU. Since I only use my 51m at home, I could even go with the Aplifier. Anyway, temps are fine.

 

Ummm....this can't be accurate right? According to GPU-Z my Radeon VII is running PCI-e X16 3.0 @ x16, but that would be impossible since my 2080 is enabled as well.

Interestingly the connector seems to be connected to a X8 port to the CPU.

RTX 2080 shows up as PCIe x16 @ x8 3.0

HWInfo shows same thing

 

what is the difference between the 2060 and the other cards cooling? I have a feeling it's bigger the I thought

 

i thought the AGA port maxed out at x4 only or is area-51m different?

 

It's not about marketing, it's about not following the intel spec just to brag. They like to throw more power at something to make it look like it's fast and OP, while a few months later they just throttle the heck out of the system. Its like the developere promising not to add lootboxes to their games, and when all the reviews are out they update it to add it in.

 

That is what I am wondering as well. Hopefully someone else with an AGA & Area-51m and different GPU can check theirs.

 

any performance degradation from running the AGA? x4 should have some kind of bandwidth limitation typically around 20% performance deficit

 

Can anyone tell me their time spy scores without OC? Mine seem a little low...

 

Does anyone know how I can copy the original 190watt vbios for the rtx2080 an use it on a new rtx2080 machine ?

I can extract it fine using gpuz but how do I install it on another m51? Ta

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/area-51m-bios-vbios-collection-mirrors.829190/

 

Tgi

Is there not a way to use the vbios 190watt on my old system an transfer to the new ? Or does anyone have a link to dell website with the 190watt vbios

 

Mine was 10k-11k i think and about 25k Firestrike

 

If that turns out to be true, those that have a long warranty will be in the same sinking boat as M17xR3/R4, M18xR1/R2 and AW17/AW18 owners. A worthless warranty because the replacement will be a downgraded BGA turdbook with its teeth knocked out and its gonads removed. If a system replacement is required, they won't be able to fulfill the warranty unless they use the parts harvested from other defective systems that were returned.

 

Guys lets not jump to conclusions. we all, well most of us here, want Area-51m to be a success and to have sequels and it is in everyone's best interest that dell see this product as profitable and will continue development. After all, i dont see how their thin and light m15/m17 are even sell well judging by the number of active users in forums.

 

~9% with a 2080Ti

so VII should be around 5-6% https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-pci-express-scaling/6.html

I need someone with a desktop & VII to compare to, so far it seems to be performing as good if not better than others

I got 135fps in division 2, these guys got 132 so I am getting no performance loss according to that 1 benchmark: https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8944/division-benchmarked-20-graphics-cards-tested/index5.html

 

So I'm replacing my 1TB mx500 right now with a 2TB mx500, couple of questions.

I want to clone the data from my 1tb to the 2tb, is acronis good for this?

Also, this is how I planned in doing it, let me know if there are any flaws.

Going to remove the 1tb, install the 2tb and set it up, then using a sata to usb 3.0 I'm going to plug in my 1tb so I can clone the data to the 2tb. Does this sound good?

Sorry for the dumb question, just not all that familiar with cloning data.

 

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Macrium Reflect

 

Decided to go with that after attempting to use Acronis. Thanks!

 

Lets hope for the mobile industry that this isnt the case. What other company is going to lead the way with removable desktop parts in laptops.

 

Yes, of course. I don't want one of these, but I do want that to be true for those that have one. That's why I said...

 

I have a AGA. I will throw my 980ti in it and see if it has more lanes then x4. If so that is very cool. Can't wait to get a min to dig it out and try it.

 

your findings suggest they improved their AGA bandwidth performance to 8x without even changing the AGA and connector itself. is that even possible? if it is, well done alienware

 

So I just ran into a major issue while cloning my drive..

The clone went well and everything seemed fine, I'm able to run games. Just one issue I can't figure out.

When I right click the 2TB drive under file explorer, its showing as a 1TB now.. which is what I cloned it from.

I'm also unable to open Disk Management now. It says "windows cannot access the specified devices path, or file. You may not have the appropriate permissions to access the item."

Hopefully someone can help me out, a bit nervous that my 2TB mx500 is now showing up as a 1TB under file explorer..

CDI is still showing it as 2TB though.

Edit: Just ran SFC /scannow and it came up with errors (looks like macrium screwed with my OS drive even though this clone had nothing to do with it.)

It was unable to fix some of the corrupt files though, soo... not sure what to do now.

Also can't access device manager.. >.<

EDIT: So I decided to try uploading an older registry backup I had, ran it and restarted the machine and I'm now able to access device manager and disk management, it looks like Macrium messed with my registry and partitioned my new 2TB drive, leaving 931GB unallocated.

Can anyone help me combine the partitions into one?

 

Very easy, just open Disk Management, right click on the partition then select EXPAND then keep hitting Next on the following prompts and it will get the full size

 

Very much appreciate. Now I have a more complicated problem.

So after uploading the back up registry I had, every time I run sfc /scannow, I'm still getting corrupted files that can't be repaired. No idea what macrium did to my registry. And unfortunately that backup was the only one I had.

Edit: So I ran dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth and immediately after I ran sfc /scannow and it said it successfully repaired the corrupted files.

So I guess that issue is taken care of?

 

Sounds like inductive feedback bypassing the pre-amp and hitting the post-amp directly ? Eg a ground loop ?

Off the top of my head, there are literally 0 posts with "my machine has fried/burned/died" over to the 17R5 forum. Here we have dozens.

 

It depends. AW said their Amplifier is ready for "next gen PCIe" in a interview.

However, what matters is, how many lanes the AGA & AGA cable have connected. If they have x8 or x16 and limiting factor was the laptops, then yes it's possible to gain more if the newer laptops are wired for more lanes.

However, I don't think that is the case. I think it's wired for x4, but I am not sure why I am seeing x16. Even device manager shows it connected to a x8 link to the CPU so best case can only be x8.

Perhaps it's an AMD thing, let's see if the other member with their 980Ti sees different.

 

So I can confirm that AGA does work along with the 2080 at the same time which is cool. But my 980ti is running at 3.0 x4. So no change. Although that would have been cool I guess it does not matter to much right now. But I do really like that it can run on it's own without disabling the 2080. Now I might use it more for some rendering work and multi tasking to a separate monitor.

 

Yes I can also run Radeon VII & 2080 at same time. Radeon VII renders out external display so it is useful for rendering apps but it's kind of buggy. I think it has to do with both nVidia and AMD drivers being on at the same time.

 

How do people use MSI Afterburner and Alienware Command Center together? I am getting sick of getting throttled down to 300Mhz, even with the Full Speed preset.

 

Perhaps some people uninstall ACC and install TS for it?

 

I guess I'd just love to see what settings and drivers people are using.

 

Use AWCC only for fan control (set individual profiles for each game) and for light control only. DO NOT use it to overclock anything. Disable all options related to overclock and reboot.

Then use, MSI Afterburner to undervolt and overclock the GPU, set it to a profile, make it launch minimised when windows starts everytime and forget about it.

Use Throttlestop to create a undervolt and overclock profile for the CPU, set it to launch minimised when windows starts and forget about it.

Use Hwininfo64 to monitor all your temps, set it to launch.....yadda yadda... you get the point right?

Done!

Sent from a Galaxy S9+

This is mu daily driver for the last 2 weeks for all games and rendering apps:

Latest nvidia desktop drivers (not Dell ones)
1.3.2 BIOS
180W vBIOS
9700K, 4.8Ghz @ all cores with -111.3mV undervolt on cache and core
2080, 1920Mhz @ .918mV

My ambient temps are above 36C most of the time so this is the best I can get here in Dubai.

When I retire to my Himalayas in November, I'll have more headroom and will try more aggressive profiles.

Sent from a Galaxy S9+

 

I got mine two weeks ago. No issues so far.

I guess I need to to do this as well.

 

THANK YOU. This is super helpful.

 

Well, I placed my order today. I upgraded to the 9700K, the 144hz G-sync display, and based on everyones feedback....the 2070. After I used a coupon, a work discount, used my ecards..the 2070 was not really all that much more. I think it ends up being a 25% discount.. I'm also getting 6% in Dell credits, I plan on using that and my existing credits for the warranty.

Thank you Tim V, Voodchild, SSJ92, SK and everyone who offered insight.

 

I guess ill follow voodoos lead on this

I am on Nvidia Driver 431.60
Bios 1.6.2 ( I have no issues with it so far. Yes it does lock GPU at 76c. But it keeps it at about 1850mhz at minimum. So not so bad. Still might go back later don't know.
180w vBios
9900k 4.8ghz @ all core -140mV cache and core
2080 1965mhz .928mV ( But again 1850mhz at 76c.)

To be honest It is really not so bad in my testing I have lost maybe at worst 13fps in some demanding GPU games going from 1965 to 1850. But most the time I don't hit 76c ill hover at 70c -73c. Also this is all on performance fan mode. I am loving it so far and now that I have my old Alienware Graphics Amp out I am doing some rendering on an old 980ti ( Still love this card).

 

Yes you're right, the performance impact in games with the 1.6.2 BIOS is actually negligible. Even in demanding games like Metro Exodus with full on RTX mode, the fps drops were virtually unnoticeable for me.

Although I went back to BIOS 1.3.2 partly because it gave me a better CPU performance and partly because I didn't like the thought of my new "Lamborghini" having a speed limiter. I would rather tweak the machine myself and find a perfect middle ground. Even in a hot and humid atmosphere in Dubai, my CPU maintains a steady 4.8Ghz at 82C max temps and the GPU never exceeds 80C. I think its well within the safe limits considering I have seen my friend's 2080Ti hit 80C regularly in demanding games and his 5Ghz 9900k in a water cooled chassis consistently hits 80C as well.

So credit where it's due, if there was no burning issue with this machine, this is by far the best performing machine AW has ever created. For me personally, I like it better than my M15X and the M17xR3. It feels good to know that you've tamed a wild desktop hardware in this 3.8kg form factor. I like that feeling. I like it a lot actually. I am pretty certain I can run this system for a long long time.



Sent from a Galaxy S9+

 

The false info about the PCIe lanes is usually related to driver bugs or issues. So it's indeed impossible to have there anything more than x4 since the cable has only 8 signal wires. And, from what I saw on the AGA PCB there is most likely just 4 real lanes.

It could be so much better to have no performance loss with a x8 PCIe, why didn't they do it with those kind of MUXers like most of desktop MB engineers do, and this really would make everyone of us just happy.

edited.

 

Weird....

I tried 1.6.2 yesterday and while playing Hellblade, as soon as the temp went to 75 degrees it went to 300mhz mode for the GPU and crazy low fps. It would go down to 40 degrees and then after 3 minutes goes back to 1950 again till it hit 75 again.

I instantly reverted back to 1.5.0 and while playing for 2 hours the temp would hover at 79 with 1950mhz. Guess i'll stay there till they fix it or they won't then ill leave it at 1.5.0

 

That is weird actually, I didn't see this behaviour when i was on 1.6.2 ; what vBIOS are u on? In any case, I would still recommend the BIOS 1.3.2 or 1.5.0 with 180W vBIOS for everyday usage.

 

I'm on the 1.3.2 BIOS and the 200W VBIOS bro. As you said, I don't want my Lamborghini having any speed limiters.

 

I´m still on the original vbios, that´s the 180 one i believe. I do love my machine in this current condition but it´s weird it becomes unplayable with the new bios.

 

what do you think of 970 pro 1TB for € 309, DDR4 HyperX 2666 CL15 2x16GB for € 152? are they decent prices?

 

I think A51M still didn't get proper support for 2667MHz+XMP support in firmware. So, even the best RAM stick gets to use 2400MHz and no XMP.
@Papusan @VoodooChild @S.K Did A51m get XMP support?

 

Nope, it still runs at 2400 only. I don't think it will ever get the XMP support sadly.

 

they should still work at 2400MHz CL14, is not it?

 

What does the Alienware OSD Kits app supposed to do in this system?