*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

"This is On-Screen Display App for Alienware platform. It can notify user when Fn+F6 Windows key has disable."

 

Yes it would.

 

sorry I know it has already been discussed but what is the correct procedure to install 4 so-dimm memory sticks in this system?

 

https://twitter.com/aw_umar/status/1160254411081420800

Also, some Area-51M news are expected at Gamescom 2019 (starts Aug 20)

 

Got my 51M today in: 9900K and 2080 with the 144 g-sync 1080p screen. Quite impressed up to now. Fans at max are rather quiet compared to Clevo. I installed newest 1.6.2 bios and 200W vbios.

Found out that IF you use Command Center to oc the 2080 one can set the max temp of the video card to 87C. I know it is not recommended to oc with command center, but at least this way one is not limited to 75C ;-)

 

Congrats! Great build, enjoy it and have fun!

 

Did you get your 51M working which u got dirt cheap? I was the 2nd buyer where i got one also cheaply bought . So far i got a 9900K cpu which i bought separately, put it back to the laptop which it had before. Right now it gives a "CPU FAILURE" error and i really dunno how to proceed at this point. CPU is brand new, socket is fine, motherboard and GPU dont have their usual burns like i've seen posted here (for others who dont know, i got it from ebay without cpu and condition as untested).

 

Uuups, seems I was wrong, begins throttling at 78C GPU temperature and stutters from then on like crazy in Port Royale... How can I get back to 1.5.0??


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Up to 78C GPU everything runs fine, when it reaches 79C severe stuttering...
Seems higher temps can't be reached with 1.6.2...

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OK... No throttling with 1.5.0. Guess I found something out everybody else already knew...

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The laptop motherboard is bad if your getting cpu failure. The reason I purchased the one with the screen failure is because I knew it was most likely a backlight filter issue or maybe just maybe the rtx 2080 had died ONLY. Turns out I got very very lucky and it’s all working, been gaming for 2 weeks no problems and no firmware updates

PM me and we will try sorting something out

 

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Also, some Area-51M news are expected at Gamescom 2019 (starts Aug 20)[/QUOTE]

If its a significant upgrade or a rev 2 im going to be disappointed....

 

@bsch3r
What are you using to get your benchmarks to display like that?

 

If its a significant upgrade or a rev 2 im going to be disappointed....[/QUOTE]
Gonna be M17 r1/M17 r2 all over again...

 

I don't really care about memory upgrades or revisions as long as they keep this crippleware active. 2666 support will involve upgrading the bios and thus activating a useless laptop for gaming. I don't understand how they get away with this. There 15/17 models cap at 100 degrees and you are told that those temps are "normal" yet i can't have a gpu go above 79 before the whole laptop becoming useless.

 

100C on Cpu doesn’t kill the graphics And from what I have read... If they add in memory support which finally reach Intel’s specs(2666) it could be this is possible without bios upgrade. Ernie at Dell said if it comes it will be done via Dell’s software app (ACC). But of course... Force you over on new and the safer bios upgrade is probably what they prefer. Then let you do Memory tweaking in Dell’s own app.

It's always a main/calculated reason behind not to offer the same they have done for all their other Aw models the last two years.


Dell sell 2666 memory for ram upgrade on old + the new Aw/Dell BGA books. But don't expect a easy task when and <if> they add 2666 memory support for the Area-51.

https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware/17-R5-Samsung-memory-DDR4-2666-not-working/td-p/7186766

As you can see... It's not that easy.

 

I remember that a CPU failure would also mean RAM power failure (according to boot sequence).. here is where you have to do measurements to identify the cause of the problem, DELLs color codes are not always accurate.

Anyway, why don't you guys first of all test the motherboard with some cheap components, putting there a brand new 9900k CPU with no clue what is happening with the motherboard first might result with a brand dead new 9900k CPU.. I'm telling this from experience, just saw so many times this kind of pain..

 

I am feeling sorry for people who don't use forums and bought a laptop for gaming which does not work at the moment with the newest updates >_>

 

Well, I just received my second 51m, after 4 month dealing with the support. And I already found a dead pixel...



It seem its the green component is dead. When displaying pure red or pure blue, no dead dot. When displaying pure green, dead dot :/

And if they replace the panel, it will be a refurbished one...

 

MSI Afterburner in combination with RTSS.

 

If its a significant upgrade or a rev 2 im going to be disappointed....[/QUOTE]
is this news credible?

 

is this news credible?[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what he said, which could imply something A51M is being announced.

https://twitter.com/aw_umar/status/1160253982851444736

 

is this news credible?[/QUOTE]

Umar said himself that we can *EXPECT* that. But it's not a r2 for sure. Maybe higher memory.

 

You mean like me, Who just ordered one? Lol....It still plays games better then any other laptop. You take 25 HP from a Ferrari, its still a ferrari....

But I agree with the underlying sentiment. This is not exactly a smooth launch. Warrenty is our friend....

Gonna be M17 r1/M17 r2 all over again...[/QUOTE]

Yup. The M15R2 came out one month after My sons graduation gift (a R1) was delivered. It is......toasty. my solution was to buy him a backup drive...

Oh....and the order for my 51M has 2666 ram. So maybe something is really coming

 

My best guess is that they managed to: 2666MHz in up to 2 slots (up to 32GB 2666-DDR4), and 128GB using all 4 slots officially (4x32) without needing to reboot every stick.

If we are lucky enough, XMP... but it's just a dream for now tbh.

 

They have all been shipped 2666mhz ram, they are just limited to the lower 2400mhz speed.

 

But they still used to report only 2400-DDD4 in their website. That 2666 thing is recent, and only in lower memories (up to 32GB if i am not mistaken).

But seems they changed once again, it's back to 2400MHz on their website. Who knows...

 

I don’t think you understand the problem here. As soon as it hits 79degrees on the gpu it downclocks to 300mhz. That means unplayable framerates. From 100+ to 20. That like having 30HP in a ferrari. On the bios i am now it runs full mode and its great but not one the new bios versions

 

Nope, I understand the problem. I also understand the short term solution..as I said....i understand your sentiment...

 

They all
Come with 2666 ram. Mine came with 16gbx2 2666 ram but it still only runs at 2400

 

A51M is firmware locked not to support 2667MHz but if someone manages to unlock BIOS 3200-3400MHz is possible on K series CPUs. But, doing that will hurt A51m rev 2 sales so it is axed.

 

Joined this forum just for the thread and to keep up with news on this bad boy. I'd imagine the stock RAM has a high latency regardless of whether it's 2400 or 2666. When I eventually get one of these I'll be putting in some Kingston 2666 CL15. If it gets stuck at 2400 then whatever, the latency is still low enough I'll be happy and the price is pretty much the same anyway.

 

It struck me as a surprise that it had given me CPU failure error with a brand new 9900k. Today i took it to a guy who owns a shop a half an hour drive's away and inserted an i3 8100 CPU into the alienware for testing. Then suddenly the keyboard lit up (didn't do that before) and started giving a very different error message with loud beeps, not related to the CPU. Sadly i had to leave that place after 10 minutes of trying some things, since he was in a hurry to go to the doctor's. The damn thing is teasing me so hard . Gonna see what i can find out tomorrow.

P.S Does it even support 2400T ram? Ebay guys sent me that with 2x 4gigs of ddr4 memory installed. By checking config from Dell's website i noticed that it had 2x16 2666mhz memory installed originally, which it no longer has atm.

For everybody else: It was a dealer bulk in sale, unknown condition Area 51M 2080 laptop with no cpu and shady ram installed, plus has no warranty. Took a gamble buying it cheap and trying to do a fixer-uper right now. Config is here: https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/servicetag/9r69wt2/overview

 

Yeah the guy who sold it to me gave me faulty ram, I felt so mad. 16gb of faulty memory ddr4 really? Anyway it didn’t matter as I had 16gb g skill 2800mhz ram. It should most definitely support 2400t ram. The laptop never came in an i3 config but giving the different set of beeps means that the motherboard maybe somewhat alive. If you live close we can meet up and I can have a look at your alienware, check my cpu in it too. All my hardware is tested and working.

I’d advise returning the 9900k and buying a 8700k everyone knows this laptop cannot simply handle an i9, the heatsink is a disaster at its best. If you want to kill it quicker you choose the i9 9900k, otherwise the 8700k will stress the vrms less and use way less wattage

Plus I work in a repair shop in Chesham called ‘Easy Links’ you bring the laptop there, I’ll be sure to figure out something for you

 

hello guys, did somebody try to install the i9 9900kf? is the system booting with this CPU? temps?

 

BTW your service tag exists, your lucky. Mine isn’t even in the system. I have a clean bios no tags nothing

 

Is there any way to find out if I have the revised 2080 card with the better VRMs without opening up the notebook and taking everything apart? CPU-Z says VGA board revision is A1 with samsung memory. Got the notebook yesterday from DELL China, looks new but who knows if it was refurbished. Got the Chi Mei panel which only appeared in the later models afaik. GPU-Z says release date of VGA board is Jan 6. 2019, Revision A1. Help would be appreciated, as temps are o.k. and I would rather avoid a disassembly. However, the cheapo VRMs would be a no go for me.

 

I have one of the first units, bought in Dubai in April, it was a display unit actually with the LG Display, here's what my GPU-Z shows:

Been running it on the 200W VBIOS and the 1.3.2 BIOS for months:

 

There is no guarantee that you can use much faster memory if the motherboard is not designed with proper memory traces / paths. If it was... Expect a lot of trial and error with different brands memory sticks.

If Dell doesn't offer this cpu... Don't expect there is microcode added into bios for the newer KF versions.

You need to open it up.

 

Did a complete teardown and I have the revised mosfets on VGA card and Mainboard. Have 4 hours left to sleep now and have to work tomorrow... Why am I doing this to myself... Why can't I just have a normal hobby, say tennis...

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That's a beefy combo right there. I have the same mosfets and they are running GREAT!

 

Just test that 9900k CPU in some desktop just to be sure it is still alive. And again, putting some untested things (RAMs ) at least electrically is a big risk.
Shorted RAMs can kill memory power management and this could be taking the CPU as well to valhalla...

What kind of fault you RAM had?

 

Yesterday I just re-opened my laptop and realized the inlet mosfets is Potato AON-6380. For the VGA is a good one 303150. So yeah I think this is the reason why sometimes my laptop is suddenly turn off (and I guess the mosfets is not the only component Dell revised, they also change the power supply behavior to load-balancing instead of primary-secondary loadout).
Btw, my laptop is fked up when I disassembled the heatsink. The screw no.7 just keep spinning without loose the heatsink while I try to unscrew it clockwise and vice versa. I saw this screw stuck with the bracket hole so I have no idea how to fix it... And my warranty transfer is in progress, so I can't request a warranty service atm... Very pissed off when I prepared Gelid thermal pad + Phobya NanoGrease Extreme and I cannot open my machine...

 

How do you find the Chi Mei panel for colours contrast etc ? Do you know the model number ? I new these shipped with auo or LG Phillips not Chi Mei ..

Do you have the 144hrtz gsync spec?

 

I have installed the 9900KF on my area 51m, it is working excellent. Inside bios it says there is an intel HD graphics but I guess this is some sort of bios bug.

 

i dont think you should be using KF CPU. your TB3 display output is wired to use the iGPU in the CPU.

 

which bios version are you using?

 

I actually installed a chi mei/innolux panel in my alienware and I can say this. The contrast is actually a bit better than the LG panel, darker blacks on the windows bar etc and the panel gets slighlty brighter too. Response times are better too I guess. But in everything else, like colour gamut and rgb/srgb %, viewing angles the LG panel straight up destroys it. It’s LG at the end of the day, they will always have superior panels, heck they make panels for Samsung. I wouldn’t be surprised if that new ‘samsung’ oled panel for Razer laptops is actually made by LG, it’s just how it is.

Edit also I have the 144hz gsync spec but gsync doesn’t work

Probably because my bios is at 1.3.0 and my rtx 2080 is on the second or third rev vbios. I’ll keep it that way, to stop power limit throttling I’ll gladly give up g-sync

 

Are they all shipping with the Chi Mei (spelling?) panel now? This may cause issues for anyone getting a 2080 with the view to downgrading the BIOS as I believe downgrading removes Gsync :-(

EDIT: Unless @DaMafiaGamer can maybe confirm or deny this, based on your latest post?

 

I’ll take a picture

Here you go:

 

Thanks @DaMafiaGamer, I have no doubt its there somewhere, but where can I see that Gsync is available/supported? Sorry if its blatant

EDIT: I now realise you were confirming that Gsync isn't available. Thanks

 

I thought g sync was enabled in the 1.50 bios, which doesn't have the throttling?