*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Do you think this is safe to try:


Edit: I can confirm this worked, driver installed.

Thanks for the assist!

 

Seriousness for a change. Which is better for my NVMe OS drive (500gb)...western digital black vs samsung 970EVO or EVOplus ? I'm reading the WD runs cooler, but I have had good luck with samsungs.

Reliability is the first consideration, then heat, then speed.

 

Only downside: gsync does not run properly on bios version 1.5.0 and below with the Chi Mei. So you got the choice between gsync and throttle bios or no throttling but also no gsync, shame on you Dell!

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I thought you tested the new BIOS and mentioned that it didn't throttle as aggressively as the others? Did it prove to be the same after further testing?

 

Not much when it's shared with a GPU.

 

9th Gen of course.

 

I noticed that my unit can handle continuous cpu loads of around 100 watts. do you find it?

 

My 17 r5 does the same. Or let me rephrase it: My R5 can go up to 110w before it downlocks because Alienware decided that an K processor can be OC'ed with locked powerlimits.

I have more than enough thermal headroom to run my 8950HK @5ghz (bought an watercooled heatsink ) but my bios is locked. 100W is the max i can do. With 3 pipes, the max wattage i can dissipate before my system overheats lays around the 240/250 watt. i still need to find a way to add 70/80 watts so that my system runs full power (110w CPU and 200+ w GPU)

 

Hey guys..running into a little bit of an issue this morning (I'm not sure if a Windows Update or something else instigated this or not). Computer boots up normal. I login and after about a minute the screen freezes then restarts after about 25 sec of the screen frozen. It did the same thing when I booted in Safe Mode as well. Any suggestions on where to start?

 

i have a bit of a similar issue since yesterday, but on my side it happens after i close the "world war z" game. system runs fine but around 10 to 30 sec after i exit out of world war z system freezes and reboots after around 25 seconds. but i'm almost certain that my issue has to do with the game... even though it ran fine just up to yesterday (and i did nothing / changed nothing.
bsod saying hal.dll was the problem... mkay... ;-)

 

Yeah the only update I saw this morning was Fortnite..that would be wild if their game update did this. I did get a "dpc_watchdog_violation" bsod at one point, but hasn't come back during all of this.

Well after doing some testing, it appears one of the 256gb nvme Toshiba drives that came with it originally has gone bad. I thought these type of drives were supposed to be more reliable than SSDs & HDDs? Probably a cheap part on Dell's end too doesn't help.

 

Don't know if anyone had a similar issue.
Yesterday I updated to the latest aliewnare CC, and OC controls, also installed the latest bios. Today I installed the latest Nvidia driver.
My CPU is at a -155mv undervolt, has been running stable like that for a couple months.

But today, suddenly my 2nd monitor went black, the laptop monitor froze. I couldn't do anything, It froze like that for like 5-10 seconds. Than it rebooted.
I checked event viewer, and it says:
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xffffb68cdccc8028, 0x00000000b2000000, 0x0000000000000014). A dump was saved in: C:\WINDOWS\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000.

Anyone any ideas?

 

Anyone have any idea when we might get an updated nVIDIA GeForce RTX driver from Dell? I'm already getting games telling me they need at least 430.86. Dell has had the 425.46 available since May. I know I can update via nVidia but with these cards I'd rather stick with Dells release.

 

Not anytime soon. I also like sticking to OEM official drivers as much as possible but if a new game requires a new driver then there's no escaping it. I did update to the latest driver BTW and it worked just fine.

OEMs rarely update drivers and Dell is the worst of them.

 

And ssd temps have been ok? The Toshiba drives have run damn hot in previous Aw models. You'll need to use a heat spreder. Either the Dell orginal, proper thermal pads or 3rd party HS model.

Nice. This means Dell give the middle finger in security. Maybe the burning mess, is still on their agenda. Aka need to be very careful with pushing out new Nvidia drivers. All the other AW models have got newer Nvidia drivers than this.
Nvidia recommends updating your GPU drivers immediately to fix security flaws ...

Maybe try drivers from the thin line. Dell have upgradede and pushed out newer drivers for the new m line. Even for last years models.

https://www.dell.com/support/home/u...oscode=wt64a&productcode=alienware-m15-laptop


https://www.dell.com/support/home/u...ode=wt64a&productcode=alienware-m17-r2-laptop

Old model also with Nvidia drivers with security fix
https://www.dell.com/support/home/u...r3vp&oscode=wt64a&productcode=alienware-17-r5

See above. Test it.

 

strange, now that i think of it i believe my problems also started since the new oc controlls and command center... :-/


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they can't be more reliable just because they are nvme SSD. NVMe is simply a protocal just like sata which now being used by marketing like crazy. SSD itself is PCIe and still needs a pcb/controller and bunch of other crap. pcb is thinner and more stuff cramped into smaller footprint than 2.5" HDD/SSD and they run hot. if anything they should be less reliable when heat/other physics are considered.

 

Hey guys, if I want the Chimei screen (currently have the AUO), can I just order it from Dell and replace it myself? I have Gsync as well, do I reuse the Gsync chip or do the monitors just come with their own Gsync and it's a straight screen swap?

 

That's a good question and to be honest I didn't really monitor the ssd temps. They did both come with thermal pad setup. Just tested and it maxed at 53C while gaming. Is that good or bad?

 

Thats good Because the Toshiba NVMe ssd's is known to run hot and the "Drive remaining life" sink fast as a stone in water at least in previous gen Alienwares.

 

There's no reason to upgrade honestly.

All 3 panels are pretty much the same.

 

Anyone have a recommendation for a NVMe heatsink? Going with the EVO plus....

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/area51m-aftermarket-ssd-heatsinks-that-fit.829804/

 

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I ended up updating to the latest RTX Game Ready driver from nVidia's downloads. Working fine!

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I have the 970 EVO Plus installed via the bay farthest from the front near the battery and used the one below. Never gets above 62c no matter what I'm doing. That's down from 95c+ during large download/installs.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B074Y5DZ4N/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

No worries. You get a double like!

Thank you! I thought I saw that before, I searched but could not find it and figured its failing memory in my dotage...

Mine came today....see below

Mine came today and it is a CMN175F.

When I opened my bottom panel a small lock washer was floating lose in there. Shoddy construction or delightful bonus, it depends on how you look at it.

 

Anyone have issue redeeming those Nvidia promotional codes in Geforce Experience?

I have a code for a free copy of Youngblood and Control that I bought off eBay. But GFE says I don't mean the requirements. I'm fully updated. I'm assuming the 2080 in the Area 51M is designated with a funky code that is throwing off the check... but open to other thoughts!

 

where are you located? If you're not in the US you need to use a VPN and connect to a US server

 

So I just finished repadding and adding liquid metal. However, the temps aren't quite what I was hoping them to be. I think they're lower by a tiny bit?
Here's what it looks like
Did I add too much liquid metal? Too little? Or something else?

 

Can you guys give me some input on whether or not the 51M is too heavy to carry back and forth to work everyday? I'd be buying a second set of power bricks so that I don't have to lug those around.

 

maybe a little too much

 

I can confirm, this worked flawlessly for me when I got the Divison 2. Thanks again mate.

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If you get a second set of power bricks it's totally fine. I do it every day and I'm an average built dude.

 

That looks like a swimming pool. The liquid metal that you put on there seems enough for 5 jobs. Btw, don't waste your money because difference between Phobya NG Extreme and LM is less than 1.5 degree celcius.

 

I can confirm this too, I've both panels here side by side and I choose to keep the AUO over the Che Mei..... it's a very subjective topic without any useful end product!

Moreover, to my old eyes, the DisplaySafe panels looks a little bit washed out and this non sense Dell is trying to sell recently is just another marketing jibberish I don't care about. Just like the Gsync and that damned optimum bullcrap. And Physx and the list goes on and on...

Sent from a Galaxy S9+

 

I'm a small guy (think built like a Grey, or a bobblehead of a 1/6 scale slender man ).
No issue for me.

 

Not for me it isnt.

 

Thanks guys. I have an M15 R2 right now with i7 9750 and 2080 and 4K OLED, I'm getting a replacement delivered today due to a fan defect, but now that they have the AX1650 WiFi card back I am going to be sending back the replacement as well, so I am trying to decide if I should grab a refurb 51M with the current sale or re-order the M15 R2. I don't game a ton, so I don't need the 144Hz display, but that is the one I would get. I really wish they had a 1440P screen option. I got used to HiDPI displays.

 

so i really don't get it. i started to suddenly have the problem, that i.e. after playing world war z, around 30 seconds after exiting the game, the system froze and rebootet after a while. also, when alt-tabbing to desktop during the game there was a reeeally bad stuttering (like you could click on anything and like 5 seconds later it clicked).
during gaming no problem at all. the bluescreenview always pointed to hal.dll and ntoskrnl (forgot the exact name and i'm away from the system right now).
i got a new evo 970 plus today and replced the c: drive with it (wanted to do this since a while), games are on another 970 plus.
i reinstalled windows fresh. redownloaded all tve stuff.
ran timespy. ran fine and after it was finished (when the result was shown), freeze with reboot after a while. again hal.dll etc.

i noticed that during gpu stressing it's hovering around 1500 - 1600mhz and as soon as there's not too much stress on it it boosts to ~1900.

now i wonder if the gpu is dying, but then again wonder why everything works fine just until after i stress the system.

can that bsod (hal.dll etc) also have anything to do with oc? i will test later on wirthout any undervolt ob cpu, bit then again it ran fine like this for weeks.

strange :-/


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The weight shouldn't be a problem for a short trip from home to the car, to the desktop and back, even if you need to carry 1 set of power bricks back and forth.

When carrying a large 17"/18" laptop in a backpack be aware that it's a serious amount of mass you are swinging, and that mass in motion can inflict serious damage on equipment hit as you swing it onto and off of your shoulder. I've clipped things before while distracted - discussing important issues as I am hit up as soon as I get in - so pay attention to the path of the swing coming off of your shoulder from behind your back - out of your view.

If you ride a bike, try to fit it into your bike panniers or slung across a bike rack, as that large mass won't do good things to your balance with the weight high up on your back.

It may be tiring to carry around up stairs and across campus, but you'll build up your muscles if you stick with it. After a while carrying it, you'll miss the weight if you leave it at home.

 

Yesterday Dell changed the screen on my second unit, for a dead pixel. Nothing to notice so far with the new one.

 

I carry around enough Mass everyday without a backpack lol.

 

I see, strange, for me the copper ihs worked. Still pondering about doing an liquid metal repaste between GPU, IHS and heatsink.

Unfortunately... yes. But there seems to be a new bios, date 08/27/19. Anyone tried it out yet?

 

I have windows 10 pro version 1809, is it still the best or should I upgrade?

 

Read the following posts in here. Why would you upgrade now? 5 weeks to new screw up (1909) and then you should wait minimum 1 month further to see if Microsoft is able to push out a new OS version without flaws. But I doubt it.

 

people gotta give up on the idea latest version = best, this is false especially comes to electronics of any kind. if its not broken, dont fix it. if one doesn't know if new version = better, do research find out what is needed and consider the possibility of additional issue that might come with it. do image backup and ready to reverse etc.

people that updates right away and then complain about MS are just as much to blame as MS is.

 

All versions of it are digital feces. You only have to decide which one is the least offensive odor in your nostrils.

It works for Windows 8.X as well. But, if you use the legacy boot menu you don't have to do the idiot crap with the command prompt to enter Safe Mode with Windows 10. You simply spam the F8 key during the hand-off from the BIOS to Windows and select Safe Mode (or whatever other option you want, such as Disable Driver Signature Enforcement) like a respectable human being of completely normal intelligence rather than a Micro$lop boot-licking dumb-dumb.

At an admin command prompt, enter:

Code:

bcdedit -set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy

One and done... no more nonsense. You are the omnipotent master, owner, majestic and supreme ruler of your PC, not Micro$lop.

 

Has anyone tried playing Control yet? My 9900k/RTX2070 runs like absolute poo. I use Geforce experience and it does upgrade to the latest drivers. I even let Geforce Experience use it's "optimal" settings for my setup and im barely breaking 30fps...

 

What BIOS are you on? Have you checked what the GPU temps are and whether its throttling?

 

With I9 and 2080 I have 55~60 fps with max settings on 1080p without dlss on 1.5.0 bios and 1.0.0.5 (180W) vbios

 

about drivers, does anyone recommend the driver creator ready?