*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

I am actually debating on not getting the 9900k. All I do is game really, maybe a few expense reports wekkly etc etc but nothing more than that. Sure Hyperthreading is nice but the price is a turnoff.

 

Get the 9700K, in my light usage which consists of browsing the net, using Adobe Premiere, and some casual gaming, I never noticed a difference between my 9900K and previous 8950HK in my GT75 Titan. I don't feel the extra speed or extra cores in my usage scenario.

 

nVIDIA GeForce RTX 1660Ti/2060/2070/2080 Driver v26.21.14.3169 ,A03

Finally!! Dell gives us an updated nVIDIA Driver for the Alienware Area-51m, from the description, it seems like many other GPUs are also supported for Dell/Alienware Laptops in this release:

Download

 

First issue..... re-installed Windows 10. Installed all drivers provided by @Ultra Male, thought I'd quickly test Alienware CC, but the Fusion section just keeps loading? Nothing shows up, just this spinning circle... Any ideas?

I'll crack on with the Windows 10 clean installation guide and come back to check on any updates.

 

Alienware Area-51m Drivers 19-Sep-2019

NOTE: Before you do anything, right click on the file, go to properties, then hit the UNBLOCK checkbox from the bottom right in case the file was blocked since it was downloaded from the internet otherwise all the files within the image will also contain a blocked status leading to an erroneous or incomplete installations.

 

You need to install the Alienware OC Controls then reboot for the Fusion section to work.

 

Thats exactly what it will be brother, I assumed Alienware CC installed all aspects, now makes sense why they are part of your download folder... **smacks own face**

 

the drivers are in that numbered order for a reason bro

you got it working now?

PS: If it weren't for my drivers download link that I am providing, how does Dell expect people to figure all this crap out and figure out the correct installation order it's all over the web and each guide says to install them in a certain order but I finally got it figured out after lots of trial and error

 

I have the 9900K in my desktop and I’ve also had it in my 51m; no difference at all in gaming. My 9700K can run 5.3ghz without throttling while the 9900k could only do about 4.7 to 4.8 at the same temps in my 51m. If you are primarily gaming, go with the 9700k and crank those clocks up while saving some cash. Or, we can see if the new 9900ks is binned better for 5ghz, but from what I am seeing the Stock TDP is like 127 on that thing from 90, so expect to see much higher power usage on the KS since we all know intels stock TDP numbers are all lies!

 

All sorted brother, thank you! Can't peel myself away from it.

 

Sound card changed

The new card is a refurbished one from 10 april 2019 (packing date). The first months of the 51m commercial life.
I dunno if the jack output default appeared directly on the first machines or at a specific time after the release of the computer.

Anyway, like the first cards, the first time I plugged a jack into it, it was pretty hard to push the connector.
But it works fine, for the moment.

 

So something scary just happening, I was fully plugged in playing Borderlands 3 and I saw a yellowish spark happen around the WASD keys..... What component is under there and what do you guys think would cause this?

 

The cooling design and power delivery is designed around todays 9900K@95W chips. I wonder how Dell will handle this for current Area models. Maybe you could get a an upgrade heatsink kit but the Power delivery in todays Area-51m is still designed around 95W chips.

"Not only do you require the best cooling (Liquid AIO/Custom-Loop) but you also need to check if the Z390 motherboard you’ll be using with the Core i9-9900KS supports the higher TDP chip. It is very similar to the FX-9000 series release from AMD which featured a TDP up to 220W & required special AM3+ series motherboards designed specifically for them. There are a handful of Z390 motherboards that do feature high-end VRMs and power delivery systems but those cost around the $400-$500 US range so it will be interesting to see the recommended boards for the Core i9-9900KS"​

New 2080 graphics is about to give up... Issues: Alienware Area 51M RTX 2800

And this is a new unit supposed to have newest revision hardware.

You're sure? Because there shouldnt be hardware below the WASD keys who should make this yellowish spark.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ienware-15-and-17.826796/page-6#post-10844096

 

What is your battery wear level guys? I've only had the laptop for 4 months and it's been always plugged in and I did set the BIOS to Primarily AC Use only thinking that would protect the battery but this wear level seems high

 

5.0% for mine 1 month old PC

 

14.7% for mine...6 months.

 

I was under the impression that setting the battery mode in BIOS to: Primarily AC Use would prevent the battery from being constantly charged but I see in the taskbar it always says 100% (Fully Charged) so this is a BS setting

 

Shame Dell didn't put an option in the BIOS to stop the battery charging when plugged in like Clevo have. Here is my P870DM-G battery after 13 months:

 

What to expect... Aw 17 R5, out of warranty, battery swollen

1.5 years use

I don't use this feature. Still below what bro Ultra Male show. This after near 4 years use

 

Can the 17r3 and 51m runs without battery inside?

 

You can however, create a custom charging profile. I think it was mentioned way earlier in this thread. You can set what % to start and stop charging (ie start at 60% and stop at 80%). This helps prolong the life of the battery because lithium ion batteries are very sensitive to voltages, and for whatever reason they last longer when stored at 75% capacity. I'll see if I can dig that reply out or find the website where I found this from.

EDIT: My wear level is 5% and it's 1 week old lol.

 

I also asked a friend who just bought a brand new one and his wear level is also 5%

 

Mines at 4.8% wear. Been using it plugged in for 40+ hours a week since release. Also have "primarily ac use" selected in BIOS.

 

That's really horrible.

 

I like clevo in terms of battery management/functionality.

Got a locked battery which has triggered the termo-chemical fuse, and the controller also needs a reset because also does not open the mosfets, still can't do this reset thing..
Bypassed with a wire and it continues to work, it even balances the voltage on cells! wear level stays between 7-20%. It fits well as a spare battery.

In the aw13r3, new battery is still at 0% wear after almost 3 monts of use.

 

Wow, this is ugly.
How do we know if the unit is a "resigned one" ?

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working as intended, its a feature!

 

Yeah, I have it all ready to go in my wishlist, just waiting for my "big deposit" on the 2nd of October.

 

Hi - was just wondering you found a solution to the green line issue? Have had my 51m for about a month and just started getting those green lines on dark areas of screen as well. Have not had a chance to do any troubleshooting yet. Thanks!

 

Would anyone that received their Area-51m with 16GB of memory (2x8GB) be willing to take a picture of the label that is on their stick of RAM? I believe the Dell Part# was 370-AEWZ, but there might be others. (Front and back if you were being thorough) and post it here. I'd like to see what the specs are on the RAM that comes with the system beyond the 2400MHz.... like CAS timing profile for example. I'm thinking of adding 32GB of RAM to my system that is coming in and would like to match the CAS latency if possible.

Edit: Thanks to Torax, below, it looks like the RAM was CAS11. That helps a lot! Thanks! The part info from the picture: Hynix 8GB 1Rx8 PC4-2666V-SA1-11 HMA81GS6CJR8N-VK N0 AD 1909 (Adding the text in case someone else has the same question and happens to search on the Dell part number... I believe these are the same and will double check when I receive my laptop which does have part number 370-AEWZ in it.)

 

Yeah My 8950HK and 1080 are not even sweating playing Gears 5 with everything on Ultra. Played the GR Breakpoint Beta and same thing.

9700K is more than enough for me.

 

I have only this picture from ram. If it helps My system was come with 9700k and nvidia 2070.

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Thank you SO much. That is exactly what I was hoping to see and very quick, too! I'd give you 5 "likes" on that post if I could.

 

Enjoy it while you can Same model and with same problem How to fix this? (side popping).

I gave @torax 5 reps from you

 

I did try to find 2 rams more, to make 32gb on my system. but it was complicated to receive on my land (more than 4 weeks) or call directly to Dell with almost the same time schedule. So i just bought 2 x 16GB Kingston HyperX SO-DDR4 Impact.

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My AW17R5 does as many times I have forgotten to connect it, however when at full power it also pulls power from the battery.

Yes, lithium batteries will most likely get stressed/damaged/destroyed if the voltage on *any* of its cells drops below 2.5V and for longevity you do not want to drop them below 3.5V. Typically the battery monitors help to ensure that no cell drops below 2.5V but at 2.5V it's already too late. They also are very sensitive to heat and it is usually a furnace inside laptops.

 

Sadly you can find battery swelling issues with just about every laptop manufacturer, it's not just limited to Dell...

 

Dell rejected my battery replacement since ePSA said battery was fine and I complained to them battery was swelled up considerably and was flatly rejected. After a month the battery was dead and Dell shipped a replacement.
Disabling Fast Charge tech from Dell and others can help in battery longevity for heavy mobile users.

 

As a random update, I checked my motherboard and GPU to see which MOSFETs I have:

I have the upgraded 2080 303150 MOSFETs on the GPU which is great, the NIKOS upgraded motherboard power delivery MOSFETs, and the 'lemon' Z5038QI5 CPU power delivery MOSFETs (no real data between IQ and IQ5 versions). Gunna repaste and repad see if that fixes my abnormal CPU temps on my 9700k.

EDIT: And this is on the blue motherboard with the NIKOS MOSFETs as a comparison to the green board showed on page 922. Which suggests the motherboard colour means nothing I guess?

 

With your help I was able to locate some RAM for me and a friend of mine that is getting the same model laptop.

 

Why are you calling the Z5038IQ5 lemons? I have the same and no problems so far. Are there newer and better versions?

 

On page 1077 they were called lemons vs potentially upgraded IQ (non 5) versions. That's why I put it in quotations. I've been able to over clock just fine and there is no real data to say which is better. So I don't see an issue. Could have been a product of other things too without hard data specs on them, like the old power delivery MOSFETs failing.

 

Now that I have installed all the latest bios updates, also the GPU VBIOS, I wanted take another look at the Undervolting my GPU.
Currently I'm running it at a little safer frequency and voltage, but I did notice some changes after the bios updates, so wanted to redo everything, but I also wanted to ask you guys, in terms of what is your approach in terms of undervolting.

To summarize what I'm doing:
1. I play a high GPU demanding game, let it reach its peak temperature, which usually takes at least 20-30 min, to also make sure that the Nvidia GPU Boost is at a stable frequency. Then I check what the stable frequency is I'm running at, at that max Temp.
E.g. the last time I did an undervolt, it was at 1845MHz.
2. So I opened Afterburner, and made everything past 1845Mhz on the Frequency curve flat. So that basically I have a cap at 1845MHz, and will never go higher than that.
3. Then I went ahead and took that whole new curve and basically moved it to the left. So that every single dot up to 1845MHz, is at -100mv.

So basically I ended up doing a cap of my MHz at 1845 (I could probably go higher due to the undervolt, But I was also very skeptical about my temps reaching 83-84 degrees back then, that I left it at that frequency)
and I have an undervolt of -100Mv.

Unfortunately, this curve isn't fixed, as it changes itself depending on the temperature of the GPU, due to Nvidia boost. But at least it works stable along the rough lines.
So I'm running around 862-875mv at around 1815-1845Mhz.
My GPU never reaches 100% usage anymore at this curve, but my temperatures have dropped more than 10 degrees, which I'm very happy about.

So yeah I was going to do pretty much the same thing. Was going to revert my GPU frequency curve and was going to start the same procedure again from scratch, except this time I might go a little higher on the frequency and voltage, as my temps dropped a little more after the bios updates (though that also might have to do with my ambient temperature in the room as it is getting colder, but I'll see).

But before I got to it, I wanted to ask what the approach is of you guys. Once again, I'm not trying to push the maximum performance of my GPU. I just want My gpu to never run higher than 75 degrees, and simply want it as power, and as stable possible at that temperature. Even if that means, that I lose like 2-3% performance, compared to my default curve.

 

Sounds like your on the right track. Having the curve plateau is better than just locking the one voltage. I found my 1900 MHz very stable at .9v. I've since bumped it up to 2000 at .981v and it seems very stable. That's before a repaste which I'm going to be doing today or tomorrow. CRAZY how much they put on there from the factory, maybe think about that too if your into DIYing.

Edit: Also I was only able to hit 2000mhz when I switched to the 200w bios. 180w I was limited to 1900mhz and was at the power limit sometimes, maybe 1850 would have been a safer choice for stability.

 

has anyone undervolted their 2070 gpu? if so what curve and overclock did you end up achieving? is it worth undervolting seing as my gpu doesnt reach past 70c on balanced fan profile?

 

Anyone know what the Dell policy is for a dead pixel

 

https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/sln130145/dell-display-pixel-guidelines?lang=en

 

Thanks bro, if they don't play ball I'll just request a return.

 

Mine has been at 4.5% since I got it three and a half months ago. Plugged in all the time, set for 'primarily ac power' in BIOS.

 

weird why mine is almost double that. Will warranty cover battery wear in the future? I have a 4 year warranty.