*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

I got this config exactly also. Then pulled the 9700 out and put a retail 9900K in. It was cheaper to do it this way than to order the 9900K in the machine, especially after selling off the 9700.

I did benchmark both, and have mixed feelings. The 9900K might as well not have a K, attempts to overclock just result in throttling. It's certainly faster especially in productivity stuff which I use a lot, but for gaming I'd say you're on the money... the 9700 will do you just fine.

 

Do you recommend deleting the old driver before running through these new ones bro?

 

If I know myself I will do exactly the same in a few months since I always want to push the limits. There are no tests what so ever with 9700 Non K, or atleast I have not found them.(1 video comparing k vs non k on youtube) Im still hoping they batched out of the Non Ks and puts a K in my area51m, thats what they did with one of my friends ordering the Non K 9900. Thanks for your answer I will mostly be using it for gaming so it feels great that it will do its job out of the box.

 

Nope this is all stock from the dell factory with stock paste. I only use this for gaming and benchmarking in 3dmark as well as database/web development for work. If the overclock can handle a cpu intensive game for a few hours, it’s stable enough for me.


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Off-course

 

An update for anyone that was interested. I got a phone call from dell/Alienware today telling me that the part I called about was being shipped to me ( vrm heatsink is what I needed since mine didn't ship with it on my rtx2080)

We will see what it is when I receive it. The part number I was given is 2wyx4. Hopefully that's what I need and although I'm glad they finally came through ( hopefully) I'm very disappointed that I didn't at least get an apology for the stressful 4 hrs I spent trying to convince them the heatsink existed. Yes I was told the part I was referring to did not exist. ( Again hopefully).

Anyways will update on what I actually receive in the mail when it comes in.

 

Good news, did you not have any heatsink at all?

 

Hi anyone using the latest nvidia driver from nvidia website too rather than that dell provided on their site?

 

Nope no heatsink on the underside vrms at all. Found out when I was going to replace the thermal pads.

 

Yes and it works fine.

 

Yep. Just stay at bios 1.5.0 to avoid this throttling mess. Experimented today with 1.7.3. The same mess as with all bioses after 1.5.0 except thermal throttle point is at 79C and when it kicks in games are at unplayable fps till the video card reaches 50c again. Back to 1.5.0 for me till this machine (except the look of it) blows up. I guess this was my last Alienware... Had to learn it the hard way...

 

I'm on 1.3.2, best BIOS for this laptop.

 

I've updated my own Area-51M laptop to the latest versions of both VBIOS & System BIOS, mainly because whenever throttling with the GPU does occur, and that's not very often since the fans do so well with the excellent cooling, it doesn't seem to affect framerate performance in games at all, at least from what I've been seeing so far. Undervolting both the CPU and GPU probably helped with keeping the temps low, and zero throttling. I also prefer to have the latest bug fixes, and whatever else has been fixed or added with the new firmwares. Looking forward to future BIOS & VBIOS firmwares.

 

I can see why you and others get upset. But I personally don't want my laptop running that hot anyway. Half the time I only use one PSU (330W) and on the balanced fan profile it stays pretty quiet and still gets 100+ FPS in most games (like Farycry 5).

 

I don't have any throttling problems after I undervolted the CPU with the voltage set to 1.17 and a -100mv undervolt on top.
My gpu is set to a 925mv curve at 1920mhz.
This gets my gpu close to that throttle point of 79c on some games but usually stays around 72-73c

 

Is it true that dell doesn’t offer replacement within the first 30 days of purchasing new laptop? I got the laptop a week ago. It was overheating, I called dell but the agent told me it’s ok and continue testing the laptop. Just playing NFS for 1 hour, the laptop shutdown and no turning on anymore. After diagnostics told me they send a technician to replace the motherboard OR return the laptop and order another one. I want a replacement, who should I contact can help me with this?

 

i'm on bios 1.5.0 and vbios 1.0.0.3, gpu max temp 76C (though it was limited by ACC 75C and i dont encounter problem with this settings). if i set ACC limiter to 85C or disable it reaches 86C and games throttles or crash esp GTA V. is it weird that gpu temps reach whatever u set in ACC? or it it normal to reach 86C or more on this machine even with fan at full speed?

 

Clear cut case of immediate refund. Maybe you ought to consider this option?

 

Can you explain plz? What is immediate refund?

 

You could have saved yourself the trouble of changing the 9900K if you wanted a 9700K, by merely disabling Hyper Threading, with the bonus of having increased L3 cache for your new '9700K' also. i.e. 16MB L3 vs 12MB L3 for your 8 cores.

Cache is king.

 

I used the 9900K in my desktop instead under a custom loop, it’s doing much better there than in this 51m lol


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Hello everyone
I recently upgraded my ram from 32GB to 64GB but it doesn t seem to accept the new ram.
The question for you guys is:
1) why aren t the new rams compatible ? I really checked all specs before ordering it ?
2) what ram do you recommend in order to be compatible with the one that s already installed (preferable ram from amazon) ?.


3) What is the role of the aluminium foil on the back plate case of the laptop ? asking because there was a small metal thing at the end of the screw that came off after I opened the case and I didn t put it back because I was afraid it will come off and go on the motherboard. Is it ok to just close the case without this metal thing that seemed to stay on the screw ?

 

The c clip is suppose to stay on the screw, that’s what makes it “captive”. There should be several screw on the backplate that has c clips to told the screws in when you pull the bottom cover off.

 

Since it s not staying...it s ok if I did not put it there anymore ? the backplate is closing perfectly without it anyways...

 

Hello, this are the spec for the original memory on the laptop....what do you guys this should be a compatible ram memory to make the upgrade with - amazon preferable:

 

Hey guys, not sure if I’m asking this in the right place. I bought the i9-9900, 32gb ram and RTX 2080. Looking for a nice vr headset. Anyone running the Valve Index on their Area 51?

 

I recommend 1.5.0 for people on 1.6.2 to 1.7.3 BIOS that want to downgrade. The ME was updated twice at least from 1.3.2 to 1.7.3 maybe even more so it's safer to downgrade to 1.5.0 and I've already tried 1.7.3 to 1.5.0 successfully. From my testing 1.5.0 and 1.3.2 perform identically.

Latest one from Dell is the same as latest one from nVidia.

It SHOULD work? Never heard of the brand before though. Maybe try one from a more known brand such as G.SKILL, Corsair, Kingston, etc.

 

Same thing happened to me. I left it off and noissues yet

 

That screw was supposed to not get screwed off completely. This metal part just holds it from the other side so it doesn't fall off once the panel is removed.

Edit: I see it's already been answered. Same thing with the screw happened to me on Alienware 17 R4, should have checked the manual first.

 

So my final answer is:
Did anybody upgrade his Area 51m laptop ram ? if yes what exact model did you use that was compatible.
Used to have 2x16GB DDR4 2666mhz (left side of the picture) and wanted to add 2x16GB more (blue - right side of the picture) but it turned out to be incompatible with my system and the bios gave an error on the memory so I had to return it.

 

Lots of people here voicing stability / reliability concerns. My A51M is solid as a rock, I felt like saying.

The biggest annoyance was having to run Win Server because I flat out refuse to run Win Spyware 10. For my sake, and that of my very sensitive customers. If you know what Win 10 captures - relays, you wouldn't use it for such a kind of customer.

I probably wouldnt' have bought it, if I knew I had to give up Win 7. I bought thinking "oh I'll get around that." Oh how wrong I was.

But the whole thing could be resolved, if someone wrote usb drivers for Z390. Crowd-fund anyone?

As for my Desktop, 6950X is the star, and I much prefer it to my 9900K, when overclocked. And given it can run Win 7, it may be the last Desktop I buy...for many years to come (short of some industry-disruptive technology being launched).

Night all.

 

I removed the RAM it came with and upgraded to 16GB of Kingston HyperX 2666Mhz

 

Has anyone tried one of these instead of farting around with two AC adapters? This was much better than using dual adapters with a Clevo. It looks like they have a special adapter for the Area 51M now. I saw a tweet that this is available. Interesting.

https://twitter.com/EurocomTech/status/1180134481723842560

 

@ EepoSaurus Has one and loves it

 

Did you test with only the two new sticks?

Read also my old post.... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1473#post-10941054

 

I upgraded my stock 8GB (2x4GB) to 32GB (2x16GB) HyperX DDR4 2666Mhz CL15 ram - HX426S15IB2/16. Been working great and bios downclocks it to 2444Mhz just fine.

 

If only I still had my 780w PSU. They're kinda pricey with that set-up.

 

It's great just a little loud as it's not passively cooled like the dell psus. It is very well built but bulky.

 

Final answer or question? Anyway, the left one is Micron OEM RAM, 16 GB, 2666 MHz. You can find it on ebay, pulled from other laptops.

That would be the cheapest way to get compatible RAM with what you already have. Getting 64GB of some branded non-OEM RAM to replace the 32 GB you already have would be a waste of money as any difference in performance would be negligible.

E.g. from US sellers, otherwise just search for 'Micron so-dimm 2666 16gb' and check that it's the same design on the photo (as there is also some presumably newer one with darker PCB color).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Micron-16G...184651?hash=item3653624b0b:g:RfsAAOSwsIpdaT8g

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Micron-16G...943945&hash=item4b698958ba:g:PYsAAOSwRrNdYQ57

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MTA16ATF2G...943945&hash=item261ff664ee:g:gHAAAOSwYbZdC8Mc

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Micron-16G...780623&hash=item287c424693:g:a4oAAOSw1FdcwM5S

Edit: The prices obviously vary between sellers. I added two cheaper ones I found to the top.

 

Unfortunately I am in the UK and I can barely find any micron ones here... and it s a hit or miss with the pulled out ones.
Question: Shouldn t it be accepting the combo 2xmicron 16gb ram along with 32GB (2x16GB) HyperX DDR4 2666Mhz CL15 ram - HX426S15IB2/16 ? I knew it doesn t need to be the same brand...just same specs.

I did test just the 2 new memory modules and they did not work....got rejected....laptop froze and bios sent error for incompatibility

 

Try G.Skill memory. I had 2800mhz ram and it worked flawlessly in the Alienware even though it couldn’t run at rated speeds.

 

I'm pretty sure those Micron OEM sticks you have aren't CL15, but CL19 which is standard for OEM RAM at 2666 MHz (confirmed by looking at some Micron Chinese auctions at ebay). A better candidate for compatibility would be some other OEM 2666 modules, like Hynix or Samsung which are commonly used by Dell in Alienware laptops and are also CL19. Coincidentally, I got a matching stick of Hynix OEM 2400MHz RAM for my Alienware 17 R4 from UK recently, so you should be fine with pulled RAM as RAM in general is not prone to dying.

But, since you're still in EU for the time being, I found these matching Micron 16GB sticks, for example.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-16GB...876834?hash=item4d934e7ee2:g:CdEAAOSwPXJczwf5

 

Alright update time. I received a package in the mail and it had my heatsink in it ( hurrah!) The part number I was given on the phone before did not match what it said on the packing slip so the "real" part number is p92k8. I'll be installing this part hopefully today but figured i would give you guys the info in case someone else ends up with their notebook being shipped without the heatsink.

 

update, raised a complaint to escalation team and I received a call within 6 hours. And they are replacing it with a brand new one.

 

That's awesome. They didn't have those when I was looking for one a couple of months ago.

Ended up having to contact Frank and he sent a package the next day (but I was told it was going to be a gamble whether or not I'd receive it, and if I did, if it would be the right part.) It actually ended up coming and I didnt have to pay a dime for it because he wasnt sure if it would even be possible to get it. Ended up asking for another one for the wifes laptop and didnt have to pay for that one either because they weren't in the system at the time so they couldn't just charge me a random amount.

Glad to see they're selling these now, gives 2060 and 2070 owners a chance to install the heatsink and lower gpu temps (and possibly avoid the mosfets blowing.)

 

After much testing my new laptop with the BIOS 1.7.3, I decided to give BIOS 1.5.0 a go.

Indeed temperature throttling is gone, but I can't overclock my 9700k past 4.9GHz. I don't know if this is due to the older BIOS. Maybe I should go to BIOS 1.3.2? Is there a setting I should change instead?

Previously I was able to OC to 5.2 GHz on all cores, which was amazing for games. Even 5.3 GHz was kind of possible.

I'm also going to try the 200W vBIOS, not to run the RTX 2080 at that power, but rather to remove the power limit because after a while hitting power limits MSI Afterburner looses control over the undevolt and reverts back to the stock curve, causing more throttling.

P. S. Wanted to show and talk about the specific laptop first, but guess I have been very busy lately "setting things up"

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£367 for an AC adapter? No thanks.

 

Are these finally safe to buy after 1581 pages of this thread?

 

It is safe but most important is get long warranty with it. 3 years or more to guarantee if anything happened, either you get it fixed or replaced with new model after this one discontinued.

 

SOLVED: Re-installed Alienware Command center and OC controls. Did a clean copy of Throttlestop. 5.2 GHz is back!

Yes, this is a fantastic machine. Just bear in mind the following (on RTX 2080 versions):

1. If you don't care about OC, repasting etc, stock runs just fine with latest BIOS.
2. If you want to OC, you will need to revert to the 1.5.0 BIOS and the 1.0.0.3 vBIOS SAFETY NOTES: Don't do this on a GPU without the upgraded MOSFET and on a laptop without inspecting the thermalpads firts. Also don't push the GPU past 180W on average (you WILL need to undervolt). Basically you want these BIOSes to avoid Alienware command center taking control of the GPU and ruining your MSI Afterburner curve).