*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Thats exactly how I done mine and had no issues. It does mean resetting your settings in the nvidia control panel.

 

That is certainly a possibility, since 1903 is the most fault-ridden and problem-causing version of Windoze 10 released thus far. The next version will most likely be even worse because that's just how they roll now. They don't care how it turns out as long as they turn something out. I've been fortunate enough to not encounter any functionality or stability problems with it, (so far,) but the reports of those that have are voluminous.

 

No problem.

Need re-designed MB.

Not the first time the Alienware’s has problem with Windows 10 Versions. And I think Dell building their drivers around older OS version.
https://www.google.no/amp/s/windowsreport.com/fix-windows-10-april-update-install-alienware/?amp

Never jump right on newest and greatest.

 

So I installed the 1.0.0.3 200v and its really a massive difference. Now my GPU hovers around 2000mhz instead of 1750-1830. Still at 75c limit though but I guess thats the motherboard bios?

 

What tool or game is best for testing GPU stability and thermals for undervolting?

Also I was looking under Alienware Fusion,, under the Advanced views.
For the CPU you have a voltage meter on which you can go down to max -95mv, and then there is a Voltage offset meter, which allows an undervolt of max -100mv.
I run stable at -150mv. So If I Set the Voltage to 1.12 instead of the 1.215. And also add an offset of -55. Is that basically the same as doing a -150mv on throttlestop?
And about the GPU Advanced view. You have your power limit % meter, and also your core and memory frequency offset meters.
So If I were to power to e.g. 90%, but don't change the core clock, or even increase it. Is it similar to an undervolt?
Also the Power limit meter I cannot access, it's disabled. How can it be enabled?

 

@Fire Tiger

IT'S DONE!!!

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alienware-area-51m-undevor-and-overclock-guide.830857/

Holy cow there were a lot of things to cover! Please share the guide if it's helpful

 

Glad you managed to sort it. Yeah the 75c limit was introduced on 1.5.4 BIOS I think. I'm on 1.7.3 and haven't noticed too many issues, the fan on full speed seems to control the GPU well for now.

 

Great guide. Appreciate the time and effort on this

 

Thanks, indeed it took alot of time and effort, your words are greatly appreciated!

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Hi guys,

I just wanted to share a little comparison I did on different CINEBENCH R20 setups.
Everything was done on Maximum fan profile, the device placed on KLIM Cyclone cooling pad, at different OC/UV profiles.
See it by your own !

 

Installed nVidia 440 drivers due to COD MW and the last ACC, no problems to speak of (except for the game that is kind of broken, but the laptop is fine).

Running BIOS 1.7.3 and the 180W vBIOS.

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I'm sorry to say, but today I ran into the same problem again.
So I'm no longer sure what the cause of this issue is.


EDIT: So I did yet another system restore, because I created another one before doing the clean update of the nvidia Drivers. And it looks back okay now for the moment. (though once again the system restore only partially succeeded, but whatever)

But just like @nkc mentioned. I think the issue might also be related (partially) some hardware issue.

I normally hate big and large laptops. This laptop I thought was so amazing, that I could make an exception. Which I did. I was happy, regardless of the insane weight and size of the PSU's and the terrible battery life (which is all normal with the specs it has).
But I'm already living with such a compromise, Then there are these massive issues I cannot ignore, and gives me bad hope for the longevity of this laptop. And I'm also not mentioning the small issues I have that I simply can live with, as I know no laptop is perfect.

But it's getting to the point where I'm starting to hate this laptop. I genuinely, am considering changing laptops.

 

probably dying , its gradually going slowly if thats the case

 

Are you running the latest BIOSes?

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Yes
All of the latest version. The last one, 1.7.3 I wanted to skip on because it had no description as to what changed.

But windows update installed it on its own. After first time the issue happened, I thought I'd make sure it was installed correctly, so flashed it again, but this time with the proper bios downloaded from dell.
Also on the latest firmware of the GPU, as I also got a prompt to install it a couple months ago.

 

Idk why you guys all running the latest bios for but for me personally this is the setup to go

 

Hi!
Are you russian?)
Can you push cpu offset higher than 0.1v ?
Is there similar option in bios?
I think sweet spot is like -0.15v 4500-4600mhz for silent gaming and good perfomance

 

The reason I haven't gone to 1.5.0 is because I have the newer panel and would lose G-Sync. For me 1.7.3 has been ok up to now. I do think it'll become an issue when I play more demanding games though, at which point I may have to make the decision on having no throttling or having G-Sync.

 

Was your laptop re-pasted or re-padded? From what I read back, your current laptop was a replacement for one that burned out.

 

Indeed, it was a replacement. I got very skeptical afterwards. I didn't want to do any repasting or whatever, to potentially avoid any issues I could cause.
And I also even did a very aggresive undervolt, where the GPU would cap around 98% of usage, never reaching 100%. Causing the GPU temperatures to never get higher than 72 degrees at the time. (as it was reaching 84 degrees before the undervolt on the replacement laptop).

So indeed no repaste, or repadding.

 

I got nothing, guess you will have to contact Dell again and have your device looked at by a technician . This can be either a firmware issue, a motherboard issue, CPU issue...

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Okey so big difference for me boys and girls!

I did a fresh install of windows and holy cow my temperatures dropped and the computer is like a new beast!
Just a heads up for the Intel graphic driver causing bluescreens!

 

Untrue.

This happened to me too.

Open Device Manager, under System Devices (I think), find “PCIE link x16 something something”. In my PC, I clicked right click, update drivers, and Windows installed a PCIE controller that has the word Xeon in it. The 2080 RTX was immediately re-detected.

Try it... works! My 2080 is fine, it’s not dying. For some reason, the newest Nvidia driver caused this, but was easily fixed by the PCIE thing driver update I’m taking about.

FYI, I updated both: the x16 and the x8.

Everyone having by trouble with this, try what I’m suggesting.

 

I tried updating to the latest intel GPU driver from intel.com and the installer bugged out saying my device is incompatible... I’d stick to Dell's for this one to avoid BSODs. It literally affects nothing, you’ll be using the 20X0 almost exclusively anyway, so why bother having the Intel GPU driver as updated as possible? It doesn’t enable any added performance or features, so just leave it where Dell did (e.g. on a driver version tested by them that is stable).

I’ve never had 1 single BSOD on my 51M and I’m running a stock image, updated to W10 1903.

The only thing broken is Alienware update, touchpad devices, and mobile connect, but that’s due to W10 1903 having a VBScript/VB6 vulnerability that was blocked via an update that MS hasn’t cared to fix, so I’m waiting until W10 1909. I got tired of uninstalling the 1903 update that breaks those apps.

Food for thought.

Seems like a lot of hassle that people are going through installing, reinstalling, system restoring, etc, etc, etc instead of using their 51Ms. Start enjoying it...

 

Are you the one who had their GPU go missing in Windows despite it being in BIOS?

I JUST got this exact same issue, I tried restarting, didn't help. I can still use my Radeon VII fine using graphics amp.

Just saw this, I'll try DDU first and see if it helps, makes sense. I recently installed 440 drivers as well for MW.

Not sure about it being a hardware issue. it definitely seems like a software issue because even with a hardware issue the device should show up as microsoft basic adapter.

Going to try this now....will update in a bit on status

EDIT: This method works!

Here's the issue:



Just do update driver and it'll fix and 2080 detected!

 

Haha of course it works... told ya!

You’re welcome everyone

I would also update the (x8) one while you’re at it!

 

Yes it was me. And am glad that there is now an actual fix thanks to @Virale

 

Strange that the 440 driver hasn't caused me one issue. I'm still loving and learning about the A51m everyday. Definitely, a world apart from my 6 year old Asus laptop.

 

Probably has to do with your Windows install, it likely has your drivers for that particular device updated automatically/more recent than the generics we all had, since many of us with first batch machines have had it for a while longer. Just a thought, but doesn’t matter! Now we’re all soaring again in 2080 land

 

I've had 3 Area-51M so far and the last I'm now using has issues with G-Sync with the 1.5.0 BIOS.
In every games, I have a constant black screen flicker when G-Sync is enabled.
I did not have this issue with my previous units, any idea what can I do to fix that?
I'm running BIOS 1.6.2 untill I can find a solution for this.

Thank you !

 

Pretty sure the Chei Mei panels (newer ones) only have G-sync enabled on 1.62 and above because they were released after the 1.50 version of the bios, so the hardware is not compatible. Won't ever have a solution for this unless someone starts making custom BIOS's (which will likely never happen).

 

Hey !
Nope, I'm bosnian haha.
I can push the cpu offset down to -0.130/0.140. Further undervolting make me crash under load (Battlefield V and GTA V at 4.0 GHz on all cores) with silent fan profile.
I did not touch anything in the BIOS as I'm undervolting with Intel XTU (which uses the same driver as AWCC, but I only use this one for my fan and sound profiles).

 

I thought on the gpu vrm strip your guide shows to use 1mm and says optional 1.5 or 1.0mm on the 2 vrm near cpu fan.

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Er - DON'T go to Amazon / Flea-bay for these, or you will get Chinese copies (no matter what they say to you), been there, been burnt.

 

This afternoon my laptop crashed and on boot went to check disk mode. Then the GPU wasn't working properly.

Did the driver update to the 16x controller and everything works fine.

The ones I got are definitely not Dell OEM despite they have the Dell logo on them. However, they work with the laptop correctly and thus I am not concerned. Your knowledge may vary.

 

I use XTU as well, however, my fan profiles in AWCC do not respond to changes I make. Changing the fan profiles never worked in AWCC, even before XTU was installed. Only reason I leave it installed is for lighting and sound profiles.

 

Is it possible to configure custom fans curve ?

Can you show us labels from this adapters please ? May be we can detect the proper ones

They all are chinese "copies"
Dells are just less "copier" than amazons or aliexpres's

 

Okay so this is my first post so don't roast me. I am in the process of getting my Area 51m from HID (9900k Delidded, 2080, 32gb RAM) All the works. My question is.. Is this a TRUE desktop replacement?

 

As true as a notebook could be, yes.

Welcome to the forums. Great machine, you’ll love it!

 

Thank you! I am currently on page 603 on this forum. Good stuff.

 

Thanks, I will do, sorry for late reply, was busy trying to gain back the lost time from the previous month with my thesis.

Yes, in this case the older panel is the good one, so I think I'm good to go replacing the new panel with the old one.

About tweaks, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm planning to use this guide for the thermal pads:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-for-alienware-area-51m-9900k-rtx2080.829543/

About testing the thermal temp in cpu and gpu (to pick the most suitable), would be this guide the right to follow?:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alienware-area-51m-undevor-and-overclock-guide.830857/

Or does anybody could recommend me which guides would be suitable to follow to do the stress test in case previous one is not right for my what I want to do, please.

Well I guess depends for what you would use it, for me it is, I use it for work like virtual machine for multiple OS's simultaneously, 3D modelling and VR, for me it mark all the requirements I look for a portable setup, I have a few power supplies around so I never carry anymore so where I go I have a power supply, in the lab, house, parents house, etc, so it turns really portable without carrying them, but it all depends what are you looking for portability.

There is another factor to take in account, and for me is important, the community behind this laptop is large so you can find more advice from experienced people, so you can always can find solutions in threads like this and ask about your concerns.

 

I really want it to be my all in one gaming pc. I am getting deployed soon and this is my only way of gaming. So pretty much docked on my desk until I leave. Different strokes for different folks.

 

Do a clean install, I usually go w/ Windows LTSC and avoid all crapware, w/ just the minimal set of drivers and services running.
If you're still facing issues, RMA it.

 

No, its fake! sorry
Its impossible to dissipate 200wats from gpu or cpu with some comfortable reasonable loudness and efficiency in this formfactor
Its like Play Station with a bit more power
Its like low-high end pc with some underclocking overheating and uncomfortable sound
Not for true pc noblemans

 

Anyone here from Europe that has ever ordered a laptop from HidEvolution?
How is it with Import duties, shipping and warranty?

As I'm planning to order from there, but am not sure.

 

Hello pro.
Could you post your 180W vBIOS in .rom file here. I need it to fix my laptop. Thank you very much.

 

RTX2080 180W VBIOS (90.04.3F.00.63) 1.0.0.5

 

What the heck are you saying ?
It all depends on which ways it is a desktop replacement.
Of course it won't be for the sound comfort
Of course it is never gonna be for the form factor.
However, for someone's needs to move with a certain amount of power in such a compact chassis and also having a home computer on the desk, the Area-51m is a perfect desktop replacement for those who don't mind having the keyboard and the screen attached.
Concerning the fan noise, it's definitely tweakable with lots of tools provided here by the community, including undervolting, overclocking, placing a cool stand.
I'm playing games and editing videos with this machine on silent fan profile without any compromise on performances.


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I ordered my Clevo P870TM1 from HID, shipped to Denmark by USPS Priority Express International and HIDevolution upgraded me to FedEx for free. It was shipped in a double cardboard box.

As for the import duties, I had to pay 25% import tax and it was a decent chunk of change for the tax man.
There was also a discount being an NBR member when ordering, which was nice.

As per warranty, my package got slightly damaged when something pierced the two cardboard boxes and carved a small scratch into the side of the system. Immediately the support team offered to either send me a new one or to compensate me.

 

I cannot setup this exe file because it's only support for alien. Could you post .rom file for me. I can use NVflash to flash it.
I flash 190W vbios (90.04.3F.00.0E) 1.0.0.0 of 51M but my GPU was very hot. The temperature reach 83C in Furmark and throttled in game.
So I think 180W vbios is better for my Clevo 2080