*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Really unhappy with the display on this laptop. It gets no where near bright enough for use during the day, indoors with curtains open. I have the AUO.

 

Something might be wrong. Mine is really bright. Dumb question....are you sure u turned it all the way up? Not being a wise ass but you can control brightness with the function keys....

 

Might as well lap the die at that point. I saw decent improvements.

 

I would stick with the stock IHS. The custom IHS's cause some issues with fitment of the heatsink. Almost everyone here uses LM under IHS and up top on HS.

 

Yeah I hate screens that are dim as well. Luckily I got the chimei panel that’s much brighter (350 to 400nits vs only 300 on the LG and AUO)


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Yeah it's turned all the way up. It's just not bright enough to fight through glare. I believe these are 300 nit screens, aka average, and this is not supposed to be your average laptop. If the Chimei screen really is brighter then I will have to look at getting one.

 

I believe the newer models come with the anti blue light chi mei panels. I’ve had all three panels and this one is definitely brighter and my favorite.


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I have the AU Opt and never use it above 50% it's so bright. Reading and the like 10-30%. Guess one never knows, always been lucky/blessed with my machines. This 51m is great.

 

It's only brighter because of the hardcoded warmer.
All 3 panels are rated at 300nits per their manufacturer's whitesheets.
If you were to calibrate a Chi Mei to the same color temp as an LG or AUO, say D65 or D75, their brightness would be very similar. (no panel has exact same luminance).
The same goes for an LG/AUO, if you calibrate them to the same blue reduced warmer temp the brightness would actually go up.
Luminance is a lottery of sorts so you might very well have an ever so slightly brighter panel in conjunction with what I just pointed out, but the 3 ChiMei panels I have encountered, matched the brightness with the two AUO panels I currently have when calibrated to the same exact color temp.

TL R a panel's luminance (nits) goes up when its calibrated warmer. All 3 panels are rated for the same brightness. All 3 panels could arrive slightly dimmer than 300 or arrive slightly brighter than 300.

 

That's an idea, is there a calibration profile around that I can apply to my AUO to make it warmer? Always preferred the warmer look anyway. Currently it is stock profile.

 

Hoping the Area-51m is updated with this 4K 120Hz display so I can swap out my 1080p 144Hz

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer...Display-With-Almost-No-Ghosting.440555.0.html

 

what is your final decision: stock lapped ihs or rickit cool custom ihs?

I did not see any story about removing retention bracket for using rockit cool ihs. I hope it will be ok with lapped die, this custom ihs and retention bracket. I use direct die to waterblock contact with my 7940X and it may cause some issues. Dont want to have this complexities with laptop.
Seems like I have to find proper washers and screw for good pressure.

I will try to measure it before install. But for sure rockit guys had to keep in mind that some guys using ek fullcover waterblocks for their motherboards and even with custom ihs they must have same cpu height to have contact with it

 

Now this IS something worth upgrading the laptop for! 4K, 120Hz, and as we have learned to expect from AUO, and most importantly, 100% AdobeRGB !

Are we sure it even fits inside the A51 - remember the extra thin bezels? May be the NEXT Alienware 17 model?

 

Actually about 10-20 fps in PUBG according to youtube videos

 

Every review with the CMN175D measures this screen at 350 to 400 nits. It’s definitely brighter no matter what color profile is set over the LG and AUO. I set my colors to be very cool like the LG and it’s so bright I need to turn it down. The other panels were too dim and I was wishing for more luminance. Many spec sheets also list this panel at 355+ nits. The LG and AUO always sit below 300 nits in every review test


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I was forced to remove it for the Clevo, as the stock 9th gen IHS was too low and the heatsink was resting on the retention bracket instead. I also tested it with a copper IHS (non-rockit) and the contact was worse due to increased surface area of the IHS, when paired with a slightly warped heatsnik.

I'm currently having a custom IHS cnc machined, so that it would allow me to remount the retention mechanism.

 

My local Micro Center has an open box Area 51m for $2519, which I've reserved and is ready to pick up. It's listed as having a 9900k, 32gb RAM, RTX 2080, 1tb SSD, and has a 144hz panel with Tobii Eye Tracking.

Anything specific that you guys recommend that I look for?

It doesn't specifically state G-Sync. Does the panel described above generally include G-Sync?

I was also considering grabbing one of the newly released 9900ks chips since they have them in stock. I figured since they are binned by Intel, I may be able to push slightly higher clocks at the same comparable temps to the 9900k.

Any input would be appreciated.

 

Seems like a really good deal! The monitors listed are either G-sync or non-G-sync so I guess you're getting the non-G-sync panel. There is 4 to be specific 60hz g-sync / 144hz g-sync or 60hz non g-sync/ 144hz non g-sync. All comes with Tobii

 

Good deal till it shorts out or burns.. No more 51m for me.

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All Tobii equiped A51m are G-Sync.

Looks like a great deal to me.

Please share your experiences with the 9900KS should you go for it!

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I think you're wrong. All area51ms in Europe got Tobii, there is no option excluding the eye-tracking device. But there is both G-sync and Non G-sync models.

 

Thanks for the info. Rep'd up. Wasn't sure about the G-Sync bit, but I'll check it out more closely when I get there. G-Sync is kind of a big deal to me so I'm not sure how I'd feel about it not having it. I would assume that G-Sync via the mini-DP to an external G-Sync monitor would be fine. That's the config it'll be used in the most anyways.

 

I got the G-sync model and yes it's a nice to have if you're playing games with full details in 17inch screen. I also have mine hooked up to an adaptive-sync monitor when at home and it works great trough the mini DP.

 

When ordering the laptop at Dell (seen at Spanish, French and UK) websites, you either can choose the 144Hz non G-Sync or the 144Hz G-Sync with Tobii.

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I can confirm that the one sold at Micro Center has G-Sync. I've already tinkered with the display model. It's advertised in the product description too:

 

Here is the choices you get in Sweden

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Thanks man. Their specs tab is just busted. lol. They have it listed as having a card reader. It specifies that it has a 1tb PCI M.2 so I would imagine that it's 2x 512gb in a RAID 0? Not very specific, but I think I'm going to drive up and pick it up anyways. Or at least take a better look at it.

 

I believe it's a single 1TB PCIe M.2 SSD without a RAID configuration. It definitely does not have an SD card reader though.

 

I dont see any couples anywhere
The only review with area-51m and rockit cool IHS that i found is successful
https://forum.portables4gamers.com/t/review-alienware-area-51m-en-cours/31773

Does all three M.2 slots are direct cpu or not?

 

That is weird AF. You Swedes must really like the Tobii thing.

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Anyone experiencing temporary freezing when on batterys? Lasts about 2-4 seconds...

 

Fun fact! Tobii is a Swedish company so might be just us who can't exclude it.

 

only 2 m.2 slots. A couple users here tried after market ihs.

 

It should fit. According to Frank Azor, the 4K panel was going to be 120Hz and OLED and release late this year at the earliest. This panel checks all those boxes.

Now we just wait for a refresh of panels to be added or they wait for the "R2" with the Ampere GPUs next year.

 

OLED? Are you sure?

 

Ah the Razer one is touch screen and IPS

Frank mentioned OLED when he tweeted it a long time ago so I guess we will have to wait and see

 

IMO, that's highly unlikely, but if you got hard proof (which I'd say YouTube is not), then I won't argue. If you would've said 2-3 fps I'd say ok, but 10-20? Naah. :-/

Google "ram 2400 vs 2666" and I think pretty much all info you can find (no matter the source) will say the gains going from 2400 to 2666 is minimal to none IRL.

What I'm saying is, don't go chasing waterfalls. Enjoy your highly capable laptop as it is. If you're upgrading - go 32gb 2666Mhz just in case if the price is ok, but don't expect 2666 to give you that much more performance.

 

Indeed it is. Toshiba 1tb NVMe.

I picked the 51m up a few hours ago. $2510.96 before taxes and it is flawless. I did not get the 9900KS CPU, but now I'm still thinking about it. The 9900K does seems nice though so I'll tweak it a bit before jumping on the KS model. Advantages I see are lower voltage due to better binning, 400 MHz higher base and 5 GHz should run at lower voltage than 5 GHz does on the 9900K. None of this should hurt. Based on a review I read, the 9900KS also idles at a lower draw than the 9900K. Theoretically, should benefit temps slightly while doing the same work.

I'm thinking about ordering another of the the same Toshiba 1tb drive from Amazon or whoever, to set up a RAID 0 with the stock drive. Due to the limitations of DMI 3.0, I can't really justify getting 2 new Samsung 970 Evo for a RAID as they would exceed the max bandwidth through the DMI interface anyways. Thoughts on this?

 

Just got an update for my AWCC? Someone know what it did?

 

Would you happen to have a link to the most recent AWCC? I bought my 51m open box and Micro Center reset it so none of the Dell drivers or applications are installed. AWCC isn't listed the download section of Dell's support site for this laptop.

 

https://www.dell.com/support/home/s...t/product/alienware-17-area51m-laptop/drivers get it from here

 

Does it support KF and KS 9900 versions ?
Anybody tried?

KF is more interesting

 

Yes it supports all 8th and 9th gen Intel CPUs

 

Yesterday I desided to repaste my cpu before clean windows install because it easily gets 100c at stock under load. I disassemble my unit. There was very thick layer of thermal paste on cpu, of course that was a problem of high temps. I applied thin layer of GELID GC EXTREME, I used bosh hot air blower to get thermal paste softer for thinner layer. I planning to do repadding when delidding tool arrives.
And you know what?
With thin thermal paste layer there was almost zero contact between cpu and its heatspreader. I did not changed thermal pads, I screwed all 8 screws to their maximun, as there is some restriction for screwing force, and I got it! 60C idle 100C any loading. I added some amount of thermal paste on cpu and it become better but still objectively very bad.
Another thing shocked me.
I get 9900k and 2080 as I hear some mentions about simplified cooling for 2060 and I think I must take top hardware to get the most powerful cooling. I bought my unit in last october so its not their first design or whatever.
When I choosing videocards for my desktop I always look at vrm first. I want to take the most powerful vrm for mosfets lower temperatures and use fullcover waterblock for card living forever. Because if vrm is alive and feels good nothing happens. I think you hear about burned area-51m's. So now I know the reason.
THERE IS NO ANY HEATSINK FOR VIDEOCARD VRM



This MOSFETs just hang in the air !!
The only way they can cool down is transfer heat to the board, then to the coils then to thermal pads on coils and only then to heatpipes!
It's only a matter of time when some mosfet will die due to overheating. Dell left no opportunity for long working videocard. It will burn out some day. Just matter of time.
Do you want to try this trick with your desktop 200w videocard? Then smell it!
Disgustingly!
This is several thousands dollars "overclockable" laptop. I can't find an explanation for this other then planned breakdowns.

 

seems like some users have vrm heatsink
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ying-liquid-metal-rtx-vrm-cooling-mod.829903/
but I did not! Why? I must have it on 2080
How can I get it?

 

Thunderbolt output does not work with the 9900kf

 

Contact Dell about the issue and have them send you replacement parts or a new laptop, who knows what the longevity of the components will be after all that overheating.

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I hope you can help me. I have had my laptop for just under 14 days. Due to work I haven’t set up until this weekend.

Playing WoW and FPS of 160+ on ultra settings. So really pleased, performance fan settings. Then 5 minutes in and FPS halved, 5min slow for FPS to increase again, only to slow again. Then found this forum...

RTX2080 and i9-9900. On a cooling pad, thought I was future proofing and instead I have a very expensive laptop that in my opinion is not fit for purpose

I have read about the undervolting and rollback to BIOS 1.5.0 but honestly, don’t think it should be necessary. I did have a try of the undervolt but it didn’t help. Still keeps throttling

So, return request raised

So, I do like the laptop. But want to know, does the RTX 2070 suffer? If I were to get one how much slower is it?

I am reading that the processor may also have issues, so same thing, if I also dropped a version down, how much slower would it be?

Should I forget area 51m altogether and look at the m17?

So disappointed.

 

I will try but anyway. This heatsink will not have any contact with heatpipes or some airflow. It will be just heatsink inside "box"