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What can it do if don't ouo? This 9900k is super freaking hot >< not gonna lie I liked how the KS just stayed chill at 4.7 lol.. But maybe I'll get this thing delided and see how it is then do you think silicon lottery is good? I think it's like 60$?

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It might not boot, random BSOD's etc. IMC might not be happy if you're running tight timings, as strength of each varies from chip to chip.

 

Not a problem on the Area Memory oc’ing is locked out.

 

So, I finally got my computer yesterday... It's really, good, I like it. It is not noisy at all, even when it goes to full power of course you hear the fans, but they are not making that whining noise like an overdriven jet turbine.
So I have already added the RAM and changed the SSD, and here is where I am quite disappointed. I have downloaded and installed the recovery image for Win10 from the Dell website and I was expecting to have all the Dell software already running, but no, and it has been a pain. It took me hours to reinstall the command center, the Microsoft Store was not allowing me to install the FX and anothe couple of modules. I had to find an old installer and then managed to update it and I got everything except the FX, which was still not being downloaded. After about one hour and a number of reboots, it just came out. But I cannot download or install the driver for the touchpad, and the backlight on the touchpad is not working any more. I am not even sure if I have got all the drivers I need... According to the Alienware Update I am fine, but for example I don't know how to configure the function keys and I don't know if I have all the software installed.
Is there any way to get the full package bypassing the stupid store?
Another question: I have seen in the BIOS that there are two slots for the M.2 disks. Is it just on the BIOS or there is actually the possibility to install a second M.2 disk? Where is that supposed to go? Same for the second SSD, should it go under the battery?
In case it is useful for anyone, Oculus Rift works fine with the Dell adaptor for the mini display port (the manual says that only the original Oculus one works).

 

Oh, and the other thing, which software do you use for thermal monitoring?

 

Kinda tempted to get a 9900ks again.. I mean I can't run my 9900k past 4.7ghz without things getting crazy hot, and I don't think a delid will help much >< dammit lol

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Tried silicon lottery, very very bad experience. I paid more than $100 for delidding, repaste and binning. They sent the 9900k back with uneven IHS. I contacted them again, they refunded the money and gave me a return label and they fixed it then sent it back to me but too much heat & laptop not booting problems. This time they made me pay another shipping and they told me they don’t find any issues with the cpu. My word against their word ended up by a 9900k unusable next to me on my desk.

 

Uneven IHS, as in you had it resealed or lapped? Reason you're getting higher temps could also be due to z-height being much lower after removal of STIM. Thus not enough contact pressure between IHS and the heatsink.

 

i had pretty good luck with s.l. sofar, but then again i only ever bought binned chips and never used their delidding / relidding services. but i heard quite a few stories like yours.. :-/


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Kinda glad I read this. Was considering getting a cpu delidded by them. But I was wary since they don’t warranty the service for a year unless you buy the cpu from them directly. Which of course is not something I’d lightly do since intel has a three year warranty on their CPUs. Plus I did have one of my older CPUs die on me and they just sent me a new one once I sent in the old one.

 

Saved me $60! Ye

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Can anyone who has a 9900k tell me how they keep it cool? Delid? What thermal paste, clock speed? I am hitting like 90c in bf5 4.7ghz with - 130 undervolt.. Not liking this to much.

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I have another 9900k which I delidded and repasted it myself and also I cleaned it ( removed the STIM completely but it works great plus i asked them if as they say the cpu works 100%, they keep it and send me another one untouched same as mine before they ruin it but they refused. I have the delidding tools but I wanted to know how the professionals do this service but believe me I did a much better job than them.

 

Did you delid it yourself? And is it worth doing? I can't go higher than 4.7ghz..

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Yes I did and i see it worthand, I do 5 ghz overlock in AWCC with -100 and temps max at 82. Plus I think not all the CPUs has the same overclocking capability ( could be wrong ).

 

What is all the things you used to delid? Also what paste?

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Yeah, that does look sloppy. Probably had uneven pressure while resealing.
I'd delid it again, remove all the silicon adhesive and not reseal it to see how the temps fair.

 

I’m happy with the one I did myself and will sell this one to a friend who is interested in it.

 

From my own experience, you need to delid, lap the die and have a taller copper ihs with increased pressure to tame this thermal inferno of a chip.

 

Would you do it for someone else for $60?

 

So the copper ihs, I heard it causes zheight issues, what does this mean? If the lid is taller, can't the cooler just not be screwed down as much on cpu to make up for the height difference?

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With a unified heatsnik this will cause GPU die not to have sufficient contact.

 

That's interesting knowing that that part of heatsink is alittle further away, but meh.. Idk how to tame this thing, do I just buy a 9900kf lol?

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Depends on how flexible it is. But I'd imagine it would affect the gpu side.

9900KF is just an 9900K with a disabled iGPU. I highly doubt there is a difference in temperatures, being same stepping etc.

 

Hmm.. What dosent make sense is after having the KS in here for abit I cleared the cmos and all and when I open TS it just says 50 across the board in frequency.. Which makes no sense, and I deleted the ini to

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Could be XTU or other overclocking software overwriting.

 

I have xtu installed and used it when I had the KS but I don't open it when I boot, does it save settings to system somehow? And how to clear this if so

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Revert the settings to defaults or completely uninstall it. XTU is pesky software, check your taskmanager. It's probably running a service in the background even if you didn't open it.

 

delidd (conductonaut between die and ihs) and i use gelid extreme on top if ihs (had some bad experiences with bad batches of kryonaut and didn't want to use conductonaut). i also deactivated hyperthreadding since it doesn't give my any benefits in my usage scenario. i don't have bf installed, but c.o.d. m.w. 2019 i play at 4.8ghz with max temp of around 65 degrees.



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I wish to help others even for free but I don’t like to take responsibility for ruining it. I only ruin my own stuff

 

Lol. I understand. Still had to ask.

 

I don't have BF5 but when playing the new Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order I get a max spike of 81c and if I alt tab back and forth the CPU is typically hovering high 60's low 70's. ARK used to push my 17R4 the hottest, on this one ARK runs mid 60's on the CPU at the hottest. if I run balanced fans then I might get a few spikes, but nothing concerning at all. On performance fans I don't get the spikes, typically because the spikes happen before the fans kick in.

Undervolted to -0.130 and repasted with IC Diamond. Even on stock paste it wasn't bad at all, I was quite surprised.

 

You delided?

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I use need for speed payback and heat to test cpu temps and stability as well.

 

Anyone using bios 1.7.3 on the 2070 notice any performance increase/decrease?

Currently on 1.7.2 and considering upgrading. I haven't had any throttle issues with my gpu as it stays below 70C for the most part.

 

Nope, never delid a CPU in my life.

 

Which cpu do you have in your 51m?

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9900k......I replied to your comment asking for people that had the 9900k.

 

What overclock did you achieve?

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Hi there - I just picked up an Area 51M made in early September with the later gsync panel, and _so far_ on 1.7.3 with 9700K OC1 and 2070 no throttling observed. I have done several hours of Overwatch at Epic settings and so far can't see any evidence of throttling so far, but plan on stress testing more today, but not sure if Overwatch stresses it enough to tell. I picked up the unit on Friday, and have only been able to spend a few hours so far with it. I guess i should try to stress test with a program to see. Been out of the laptop stress testing for a long time as my trust Alienware 13 R3 has been my daily driver for years now.

 

For my experience Overwatch doesn't stress the CPU and GPU enough. For the moment the game I have test that stressed more both is maybe BFV, maybe a game with RTX like the new COD...



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For me, world of Warcraft at ultra 10 caused throttling within minutes. 3dmark stress test did it too (which would make sense if wow did it!)

 

Exactly which stress test would you recommend from 3dMark's suite, and how could I be sure it was or was not throttling?

Update: I ran the Port Royal stress test and got a 98.7% frame rate stability, I would assume if thermal throttling with the GPU was occurring due to BIOS then this would be much lower?

 

Firestrike is lightweight test compared to stress testing software, as it's very similar to a gaming workload.

Hwinfo64 is a great monitoring tool, offering a wide range of sensor monitoring and logging. If you're throttling, it will flag the exact reason you hit the wall. ie. current/power limit etc. Making it easy to adjust settings accordingly.

If you care about stability run Cinebench R15. It's a handy benchmark that puts serious load on the CPU. If you pass it without throttling and crashing, you will likely never crash in games.

 

I am sure others know more than I, but I ran the time spy stress test and it failed due to the FPS drop

 

I tried the preset OC level 1 and 2 after I repasted and both stayed under 90c if I used performance mode, I honestly don't remember if I tried balanced. I ran 3DMark , saw it didn't make that much difference and went back to stock, overclocking off. Where I have my undervolt set currently if I start OCing it locks up as I am pulling to much voltage away from the CPU.

For me, I am fine keeping this at stock speeds and staying cool.

 

What BIOS and vBIOS are you on?

 

Well I ran Time Spy Extreme for the full run 97.1% score. System is on OC2, power on performance, cooling on balanced.

i7-9700K, 2070, 16 GBRAM
BIOS: 1.7.3
VBios: 90.06.45.00.29

I mean, if there is throttling, I should expect a much lower score right? No under-volting on GPU or CPU either, etc. Is the throttling just with the I-9's and 1080 then?

 

So, today called me a Dell tech guy from my last support ticket to tell me that he spoke with his manager and his manager to Dell(?). He told me that the problem with the Thermal Throttle on the BIOS can only be fixed with a future new BIOS(yeah, we know) and that they are already working on the new BIOS and that it's "probably" going to be fixed with the new BIOS release.

As I always says, If someone wants to bump this thread on Dell forums to get more noise there, it will be nice!
https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware/GPU-Throttling-Area-51m/td-p/7422671

Or to contact Alienware Support on twitter https://twitter.com/AlienwareTech

Thanks everyone!